could it be??????

When God created He saw all was good...originally it was. I thought we were discussing relationships, as we are here rather than in the relationship forum, and it sounded like she wanted to discuss what God says about these things.

God doesn't hate us. That wasn't said by me. I think when others try to infer or translate for me there comes a problem. If someone suggests one such as I can't know what God is thinking and the proceed to then tell others what (you think) I am thinking... that can be confusing to say the least, imo.

I believe we don't have to try and guess what God "thinks" about many things because He gave us His Word written about them. His words are there for us to know what His will is...so there isn't any pretense of being God or knowing what God thinks...it comes from Him. Plus, for those who engage in certain types of faith, the Holy Spirit is what guides us. When others of the same faith engage in discussion, there is the kindred spirit that understands what is being said, as tough as it might be to hear at times.

There is a difference in the type of support for one of faith. Perhaps that is what we all are running amok with in this forum. I think ppl post for help in the spirituality forum because they do want that added insight or level of help. It's a tough line I guess, because of the spiritual aspect of things... I think it's been called tough love in the past.

Let's all pray about this, the situation, the desired results and the thread and the hearts of those involved in reading, and responding. Perhaps if we do this each thread, things won't go off track. TC

I think it would help that when people are "speaking for God," they let others know what perspective they're coming from. We all just assume that everyone here knows what we're talking about, and frankly, some people don't. We shouldn't just assume the Christian God is the only God when someone asks a question about what God is trying to say. Or the Old Testament God versus the New Testament God.

As they say, God comes in many forms.

Having said that, you should also expect answers if you come into a place like this asking questions about what others think God is saying to you. And be full well and prepared if you don't like some of those answers.

Just to reiterate, though, this forum welcomes believers of ALL religions, faiths and beliefs, whether they be Muslim, Wicca, Hindu, Christian, or something else.

DocJohn

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_Sky said:If someone suggests one such as I can't know what God is thinking and the proceed to then tell others what (you think) I am thinking... that can be confusing to say the least, imo.

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Hi Sky. Thanks for clarifying your point of view. I just have a question, though. Are you saying that when someone (like me) posts what they think or believe, it's confusing? I don't think multiple points of view are confusing. I think they're refreshing and it gives people something to consider.

I don't know what form Skittles' faith takes. She may not share all of your beliefs, so I was trying to be supportive in offering my own opinion. I don't expect everyone (or anyone) to agree with me. I'm not trying to convert anyone to my way of thinking and believing. I just think it's a good thing to express what's in our hearts -- all of our hearts.

I don't think the thread has gone off track just because people here have different beliefs. I see many people trying to be supportive in their own way and, IMO, that's a good thing. I thought the desired results were to answer Skittles' question... and all any of us can do in answering that question is to share what we think and believe in regard to her situation. It's inevitable that we will each answer her question in our own way. We're all individuals and some of us have different beliefs.

You mentioned that there is a "difference in the type of support for one of faith." I consider myself "one of faith" but the type of support you might offer to me probably wouldn't seem supportive to me because your faith is different from mine... and you probably wouldn't find any support in my faith because your own beliefs are very strong. You have made it clear what you believe, and I fully admire and respect that. When someone I don't know much about posts in this forum, though, I don't want to make assumptions about their faith. That's the beauty of a forum like this where many points of view are expressed. There's a good chance that at least one of the many points of view will be helpful for the person seeking clarity and/or comfort.

So, I'm not trying to rock the boat by expressing a different point of view. I was just sharing what was in my heart and hoping it would be helpful to Skittles. I think that's what we were all doing and I think there's room for all of us here.

Cheers to you, Sky. I value your passion and willingness to share, and it's clear to me that you care deeply about your faith.

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I just have a question, though. Are you saying that when someone (like me) posts what they think or believe, it's confusing?

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No when someone says a comment that infers they know what I'm thinking and saying, THAT is confusing.

Yes, again I spoke too general, having already come under fire for speaking specifically. This is a tough, fine, line. My being of Christian faith that believes in the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, I speak that those who also have the Spirt within them from their acceptance of Christ, then the Bible says His Spirit bears witness with our Spirit, that we are the children of God. That leads to the "understanding" of something when what I say that is truth, is registered as such to the other believer. Or vice versa and counterwise also.

I think DocJohn was correct in explaining that we all weren't speaking from the same base of "god." We didn't find what kind of god or faith skittles was asking about in the first place. I'm sorry I forgot to ask enough questions first. (And I am trying to remember to do that )

So maybe we should allow skittles to tell us more about her faith, and what level of action her god usually takes in her life? What do you think skittles?

I just wanted to clarify something, Sky. I went back and re-read my posts to make sure I didn't aim any of my comments at you and criticize you in anyway. So, I think you must be referring to when I posted: "None of us can speak for God." I wasn't directing that at you or anyone else here. I was making a statement of what I believe when I posted that. It was in no way a criticism of you. No offence intended. Please accept my apologies if you thought I was criticizing you.

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I beg to differ...

God doesn't speak directly to humanity anymore, but He has given those who believe strongly in Him and are led by the Holy Spirit the commandment to teach His word.

It might have been clearer if Skittles had explained her perception of her god.

Hi, skittles. My opinion is that it could be a "sign" but I guess it would depend more on how your boyfriend sees it since it was he asking God what to do. Doesn't help to pre-empt someone else's questions with answers we want or believe? :-)

If I were in your shoes I would start a conversation with your boyfriend, talk about what sort of response he was anticipating and how you see/want it and reassure him you don't want to "break up" (if you don't :-) and how his wanting to look at the apartment worried you.

I don't think God is limited in how he responds to our prayers but tailors his responses to us and to our ability to read them. I generally don't have to wonder when I get a response, even when I'm being "thick" because then He generally sends a lightning bolt kind of resonse so I "get it" :-) if I'm being too dense. Maybe your boyfriend got another response he didn't tell you about or sees the already rented apartment the same as you. Ask him!

good post, perna..............

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he told me that he wanted me to call incase we break up

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You know... whether this had been posted in Relationships or where it was, there is still the fact that there seems to be a lack of Commitment in this relationship.

Granted that marriage ceremonies have been different throughout the ages and have depended on the customs of each country and even separate sects, but one thing remains constant whether there has been a ceremony or not... and that is a lifetime commitment.

Ok Now....

With that being said "that this general spiritual forum is probably ran more or less on the belief system of a "Christian God" that of which the majority of the United States praises and worships as its God...... let us not forget that the teachings of this Christian God are often interpreted differently among the many Christian faiths and churches that we have here in the United states, therefore, let us always remember that what one Christian may believe to be (or not to be) per the teachings of their Pastor may not be the same teaching/interpretation that another Christian may believe in.... that which they believe to be true.

IN A NUT SHELL... basically try your best to LOVE and HONOR all people that you come in contact with (no matter what whom or where they come from) - and always strive to treat each and every person that you meet along the way as though they are a beloved family member of yours.

... for in the end it does not matter IF WE: believed in a heaven or a hell, said a curse word when we were little, had a weak moment in time and was tempted by another, was once mean to some one that pushed your buttons one to many times, if you forgot to pray three days of a 7 day week, did not attended church as often as the another person believed you should have, lived with your boy friend before you got married, had a lustful thought or two come thru your mind, did not always keep control of what you watch on TV...... ect.

....for in the end all that matters is that WE - - - - Feared the Lord at one time and was so scared of the path that our life was taking us down, that we fell to our knees and asked Christ to come into our heart and to SAVE US, to forgive US of our SINS.

.... for in the end all that matters is that WE - LOVED all others as CHRIST Him self would have wanted us to.

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well put, Rhap!!

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You know... whether this had been posted in Relationships or where it was, there is still the fact that there seems to be a lack of Commitment in this relationship.


We are very commited to each other but i had done something before i thought that hurt him alot... It hurt him so bad that he didnt know if we should stay together...... im sorry if this topic has gotten anyone angry i guess i should of started at the beginning and explained myself better before i asked "Could it be a sign from god" I just know i belive everything happens for a reason and that god has a plan for us all........ And in my heart i belive that he wants me and my b/f together and that he helped us get through the rough patch we were having even though we r living with one another and NOT "MARRIED" ... and i belive with gods help we have grown stronger in r relationship.... this is my beliefe as i see that most do not agree with me.. but everyone has their own beliefs ....

<font color="purple"> ((((((( HUGS ))))))) </font> - again Skittles....... do NOT worry, for a lot of relationships go through that "IF" we this "IF" we that thing - heck even good marriages do and they make it..... just hand in there and talk through this with your B/F and with all of us here at PC.

LoVe,
Rhapsody -

Skittles, I also believe things happen for a reason, even this thread and the activity on it. I believe that since you felt it was a sign, that it is. But please allow for a different interpretation of the sign, not just what you want it to be. If your relationship won't last while you are apart, then it isn't an ideal relationship, imo. You haven't explained your god nor your type of faith in this, and that is ok, but leaves me out of the continued support in this forum for this, now.

You know I wish you well, and you can PM me any time

sometimes one size doesn't fit all..........xoxox pat