afterlife thoughts

what are your thoughts on the afterlife?

i seen something really strange

i think it was a spirit world

i know it sounds crazy but it could be true...

My thoughts on afterlife: I do hope there is a happy one. Though truly, I have no idea. I'm a bit agnostic when it comes to that sort of stuff but also I'm quite open to hearing about peoples' spiritual and religious beliefs. You just never know.

You come up with really good threads Yogurtssss. I liked your thread on clairvoyance.

Good question. Truly I have no idea. If it does exist I picture the painting scene in the movie What Dreams May Come.

I believe in reincarnation. You become one with your higher self and then move on to another life. You wouldn't reincarnate as an insect or something like that because how it works is you reincarnate as something that's close to the same complexity as a human and you work your way up to more evolved lifeforms. I mean I guess you could reincarnate as an insect or something if you wanted to but we all reincarnate for learning and experience and we keep moving up. You have to go through lots of incarnations though. I mean you could probably choose not to reincarnate but we do it for learning and experience. Anyways that's what I believe what happens.

i have seen a lot of things that convince me that there is a 'spirit world' or maybe more than one~

personally, i follow the teachings of buddhism regarding reincarnation. i have done several death meditations, and believe that the personality is dropped with the body, and what remains is beyond description. but it goes back into the 'pool of life', if the consciousness has not reached a place where it can hold itself together~ that is what i strive for, not to be a shattered consciousness.

What did you see? Can you describe it?

It was a pretty place. It looked galactic and it reminds of a gallery for some reason.

I truly and whole heartedly believe that there is an afterlife. I had a near death experience about 7 years ago. My brain exploded. I saw the most beautiful light behind a very strange and exotic shaped tree. I could hear all that was going on around me, feel, smell and even respond to the paramedics. But this is not the only reason why I believe...I saw my dad some 8 years after his death. He was not in full body form and only is face was fleshy, human so to speak. His body was engulfed in a white misty cloud and moved like wind. I've dreamed of seeing the book of life in the arms of Jesus, no, I could not see his face. I've flown with angels in my sleep and have had ghosts speak to me both asleep and awake....sounds crazy I know and given that people with mental illness are often excused when they speak on these things as being "mentally ill" it is frustrating to tell others.

Months prior to my injury, I had a dream and in this dream a rainbow man woke me from my sleep to tell me that I could come and go with him, that I didn't have to go through any of this...fearfully, I declined and told him that I did not know him and he did not say who he was. I've never dreamed of him again but can still feel his hands on my shoulders shaking me to wake me. However, I saw him portrayed in a movie ( "The Shack") as many spirits that were in heaven and these spirits were different colors of the rainbow...I concluded to myself after seeing this that the rainbow man in my dream was that of many spirits...perhaps family/friends that have long died.

I am excited about the after life. I believe we are all energy and part of the universe, that we continue, whether or not we are reincarnated or go to the mansion in the sky but I also believe that it depends on where the heart and soul is (what ever you believe) so....it could be your heaven or your hell.

I don't know what I believe. There are valid arguments that ring true with me on both sides. Have I had strange and unexplained experiences? Yes. Many. But, then, the scientific part of me says something else. So.........yeah.

The only thing I am sure of is that there's a spirit world. I'm not sure how human spirits, if at all, fit into that.

I was raised religious, but since being an adult I found my own path. I too had an experience. Mine was when I was younger and a friend experienced it too at the exact same time as me so I was able to confirm that it did happen, not just me imagining it.

I do think however a lot of the things people see are just hallucinations or dreams that aren't really anything. I can't say what's real and what's not though, no one really can in regards to spirits, even with these "scientific" devices. The paranormal intrigues me greatly, but I have come to realize just how fake a lot of things are because people abuse the fascination of others to make money.

I have experienced such, and was overwhelmed by such great love enshrouding me, but then, that's what I believe too, from God.

I believe that I am not particularly important, and therefore no afterlife is required. My actions in life will have effects after my conscious state is gone, and the atoms in my body will be re-organised into new carbon-based arrangements which will allow new life forms or things to happen.

I agree with you...but...then...I sit in my living room watching tv and hear someone walking upstairs when no one is home......I don't know.

i remember being about age 10, and being home alone, and hearing footsteps upstairs,, it gave me quite a scare. and since then, i have 'seen the spirit world' in several different ways. so i agree with the physicists who say there are 11 dimensions, and multi-verses.

Could you please share an experience? I would love to hear...

I believe in a heaven and a hell. When I had surgery once I dreamed of heaven it was a big hilly meadow and I was running. I was so happy they had to forcefully wake me up from the anesthesia I was under much longer than most.

I think there's definitely an afterlife, no doubt in my mind. Everything points to it [to me]. So, we don't need to fear death, but we shouldn't go rushing off towards it either.

I welcome it....look forward to it. I'm not rushing to it nor am I running away from it.

I was pronounced dead 3 times after 3 seizures one after the other. I remember being so peaceful it was beautiful, more than words can say! I remember I came to as a nurse put a warm blanket on me and I knew I was still on earth in the hospital.

It doesn't exist. Period. Not a provocation here. Merely an immutable truth.

When you die your consciousness is gone. Game over. You (the identity that's considered you) go nowhere.

But how do you know for sure?

We know, based on what we know about the brain, that when you expire (truly expire) your consciousness is eradicated. A wave of “spreading depression” kicks in and the cells shut down. The essence of you eventually becomes no more. It stops. It doesn't go anywhere. Now there IS some debate if your consciousness lasts for a few minutes after death. But it certainly doesn't travel anywhere (it merely is no more). It's all contained in that organ. It does not unhinge from its body. And why would it necessarily go to a spiritual/other realm if it did? Well and then someone says "but it could though!" Well, no. It couldn't. We know that consciousness emanates from the brain and stays self-contained within the brain (because consciousness is a concept that exclusively applies to the brain) until it stops. We KNOW it doesn't move anywhere, because what was your consciousness was triggered by an organ. No designer except for nature itself made this organ. We are nothing more than our brains: our identity at least.

We know, based on what empirical evidence we have, that there is no spiritual (because spiritual implies "relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things.", which flies in the face of the tangible - although intangibility does not necessarily render it non-existent - or empirically proven. Why believe in the intangible notion of spirituality merely because it's something that we do not see before us? We have ways of explaining the intangible as well, and none of it includes souls or a godly source emanating from you etc.) or other realm outside the current. Given the tools we have (which I might add, if a creator really wanted us to believe in him/her/it they would want to make it abundantly clear that they are real and providing us with the tools of logic and reason and science that lead away from his/her/its existence would seem entirely pointless unless you believe that getting to know the creator truly is a test. Well, if it's a test, there lies the option to conclude that the creator is not real: why would a creator want such a trial? Especially when the most convincing evidence that the supposedly omniscient being allowed refutes its existence.), they disprove any kind of immaterial existence that we migrate to because it's illogical based on what we know is possible. We have tools that show us what's in the universe/HOW things work. You could go solely off of 'faith' and blindly hitch your wagon to an idea that you believe in 'just because' and eschew all tools given to us that make sense of our reality and not believe in what is presented before you, but that'd be akin to believing in something like telekinesis just because it sounds cool. If it sounds cool, therefore it must be real.

Say you're not even religious and you're not sure about the idea of an after-life. What would having knowledge of an after-life (and I'm presuming you're viewing it as something other than a paradise or a really bad place where you roast in eternity), really do for you? What if the after-life was just a short blip of time? If it's such an unknown entity to you, and you forever see it as unknowable, why bother worrying about it?

I probably better stop here. This is supposed to be a sanctuary. I shouldn't have posted on this thread.

Of course there is a Spirit World. The hereafter does exist. I can feel it, sense it, know it to be true. The other day I felt a cold tingling sensation ( the sure sign of a spirit touching you) on my toes, when I was performing the last part of a yoga session. Laying there, I could feel the presence of my beloved cocker spaniel who had passed away (she loved to lick feet when she was alive) licking my toes with her ghostly tongue.

You see, I have the gift of being an Empath, so when I felt her at my feet, I also felt sadness from her because she missed me, and joy because I could feel her there and acknowledge her presence. No one but me does that much anymore.

My late grandma also visited me after she passed on. She was telling me goodbye because I wasn't able to do that with her while she was alive. I know deep in my heart that it was her spirit visiting me and no one can convince me otherwise.

So yes, there is a spirit world, rest assured.

I'm not convinced, OblivionAtHand. What science measures is physical. There is so much that science does not know, or even measure. Perhaps someday it will, and we'll find out the truth (whatever that may be - afterlife / no afterlife). But I'm not really worried either way.

Having suffered a brain injury, I've suffered/experienced (still do from time to time) some really weird and far out stuff like bending poles, seeing color prisms and having outer body experiences while awake, maybe seizures or psychotic? you pick, but my neurologists can't figure it out and all have shy'd away from the possible causes.
They (neurologists) constantly tell me that the brain is a mystery to science and man may never know it's secrets nor its full potential.

I must add also that since my injury, my perception and senses have been heightened tremendously. I was always able to see ghosts as a child, but now I can hear them, smell them and feel them. I also have premonitions, not all but many of them have come true. I've been told by therapist that I am too empathetic and others say that I am a empath, I am greatly affected by my surroundings and am spiritually connected.

Millions of people across the world, every nation for generations have experienced the same or like encounters with the spiritual world and these individuals have nothing in common ...oh wait, yes they do...they all have experienced the spiritual world.