t's the principle, it's the issue
that your principal would dismiss you.
Because you don't fit into that all-American Box.
That coffin created for creative thought.
It's disgusting, his priorities
And how we're entrusting him with authority.
His gavel's gone down before he looked in your
heart. He finished this race(ism) before he reached the start.

CHORUS:
Jesus loved the outcasts.
He loves the ones the world just loves to hate.
And as long as there's a heaven, there'll be a failure to excommunicate.

The world just keeps you at an arm's length.
Every week you work up the strength to fight the flames that are hurled.
Let your faith shine right through.
You know it's the world versus Jesus and you.
It's disgusting, their priorities.
And how we're entrusting them with authority.
Their gavel's gone down before they looked in your heart.

CHORUS
Jesus loved the outcasts.
He loves the ones the world just loves to hate.
And as long as there's a heaven, there'll be a failure to excommunicate.
Failure to excommunicate

[mandazzle]

Relient K <3

[(JD)]

This is a very interesting song. Can someone explain it for me, line by line?

sky... are you serious?

[(JD)]

Yes, please. I can assume I read what the author wishes, but would like to hear what it is you are reading.

here... this is for sky.

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[spiritual_emergency]

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Sky: This is a very interesting song. Can someone explain it for me, line by line?

It goes like this...
















































Music of the Hour:

what?

[KathyM]

Court Knee - Thanks for providing the link. I liked the song.

Sky - Every generation has their own music. What you've just heard is our new generation - our new future leaders. It looks like they are just as frustrated at being ignored and left out as my generation was at that age back in the 60s.

I hope and pray they can find a way to stay true and not resort to drugs, violence, or turning their backs on their neighbors and society. They are our future leaders.

[(JD)]

AH! Got it! WE are the outcasts, the Christians, and we've given the "principal" among others,the unbelievers, too much authority and rule over us.

Thanks!

[spiritual_emergency]

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Sky: WE are the outcasts...

I recall reading a book by Pema Chodron in which she shares the story of a young woman who finds herself in the position of being an outcast. I can't remember how she found herself there, but the important thing is that when she did, she also found herself identifying with every other human being who had ever been in that position. The act of feeling rejected, unworthy and not valued brought her closer to the rest of humanity as opposed to causing her to feel that she was separate from humanity.

In my own experience, I've learned that when people (and that includes myself) self-identify with being an outcast (or otherwise victimized in some manner) they are standing on treacherous ground because while there, one can get to feeling so sorry for themselves, and so defenseless and so angry that they move to righteousness. The trouble is, once you're mired in that space you can start feeling like you shouldn't have to be there. You can start telling yourself that everyone around you is wrong. And yet, there is nothing so special about us that we shouldn't have to feel the pain of feeling less than, cast out, unwanted, unworthy. However, if we do start to feel that we're special and we shouldn't have to feel that pain, we can move into a defensive counterattack and at this point, we can justify nearly any action regardless of how brutal, cruel or inhumane. The history of humanity is filled with examples of those who believed they were so special, they shouldn't have to feel the pain they feel; so special that they were entitled to inflict that same pain on others.

I recommend tonglen practice to all those who have ever felt the pain of being an outcast. There were some days when I breathed nothing but tonglen all day because I was in so much pain. And yet, this practice of taking on the pain of others, of identifying with where they felt pain, it took me out of my sense of being alone. It took me out of my sense of specialness and entitlement and victimhood, and instead, helped me understand that every human being, on some level, had known the pain that I was going through. I wasn't an outcast. I was a human being having a very human experience.

(I found the story)

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A young woman wrote to me about finding herself in a small town in the Middle East surrounded by people jeering, yelling, and threatening to throw stones at her and her friends because they were Americans. Of course, she was terrified, and what happened to her is interesting. Suddenly she identified with every person throughout history who had ever been scorned and hated. She understood what it was like to be despised for any reason: ethnic group, racial background, sexual preference, gender. Something cracked wide open and she stood in the shoes of millions of oppressed people and saw with a new perspective. She even understood her shared humanity with those who hated her. This sense of deep connection, of belonging to the same family, is bodhichitta.

Source: The Places That Scare You


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"I recommend tonglen practice to all those who have ever felt the pain of being an outcast. There were some days when I breathed nothing but tonglen all day because I was in so much pain. And yet, this practice of taking on the pain of others, of identifying with where they felt pain, it took me out of my sense of being alone. It took me out of my sense of specialness and entitlement and victimhood, and instead, helped me understand that every human being, on some level, had known the pain that I was going through. I wasn't an outcast. I was a human being having a very human experience."

Very wise words..........When you know other ppls pain "I mean really know it" you lose your anger......and entitlement and victimhood....

When my kids were young and upset or worryed. I would tell them to stand still. I would put my hand on thier forheads and tell them I was taking thier worrys or pain for the day. That I would keep "the worrys and pain" safe for the day.That they could have it back at the end of the day if they needed it.

Thoughts from the sheep
ty muffy

[(JD)]

O K... humans are outcasts? women are outcasts?? I did ask for someone to explain

[1oxbowgirl]

Maybe I am wrong, I am willing to admit it happens now and then, LOL. But as I read over the song it reminded me of how the Bible talks about this very problem. Those of whom love the Lord, are becoming more and more the outcasts. Those that do not rise up in anger against other people, but humble themselves before the Lord, by following His ways are outcasts in today's world. It is taught so much that the mix of different religions is okay to do, that it must be done in order for everyone to get along. But those who follow the path set before them, the path that their heart and mind urges them to follow, become the outcasts that Jesus loves. I think this song that is set in the stage of the younger people, does not mean they don't like the older folks, it just means their way of looking at the world is different. We all go through these stages, these changes as we grow up and grow older. It is natural and has been going on for generations. Not to worry thou for these younger people will find their place in the world, and whether they be outcasts or not, I am sure they will become the people that they were meant to be.
If my take on this is wrong, that's okay. I will humbly step to the back of the line.

[(JD)]

Well that was what I was thinking but it seemed that I came to the wrong conclusion and I am confused.

[spiritual_emergency]

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muffy: When my kids were young and upset or worryed. I would tell them to stand still. I would put my hand on thier forheads and tell them I was taking thier worrys or pain for the day. That I would keep "the worrys and pain" safe for the day.That they could have it back at the end of the day if they needed it.

What a wonderful little ritual. I'll bet that none of them ever asked you to give it back.

1oxbowgirl: I think this song that is set in the stage of the younger people, does not mean they don't like the older folks, it just means their way of looking at the world is different.

I think that young people, like older people, are often aware that injustice is a part of this world. Initially, that sense of injustice comes from feeling that we have been personally wronged but with time and experience, we come to see that injustice affects far more than just our selves. That's not to imply that older people are more aware of this -- I've seen some very astute, very wise young people and likewise, some older folks who seemed to be completely out of tune.

One thing when it comes to injustice, there doesn't seem to be any lack of it to go around. We're all going to have the opportunity to feel the sting of that one many times over.

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muffy: When my kids were young and upset or worryed. I would tell them to stand still. I would put my hand on thier forheads and tell them I was taking thier worrys or pain for the day. That I would keep "the worrys and pain" safe for the day.That they could have it back at the end of the day if they needed it.

What a wonderful little ritual. I'll bet that none of them ever asked you to give it back.

1oxbowgirl: I think this song that is set in the stage of the younger people, does not mean they don't like the older folks, it just means their way of looking at the world is different.

I think that young people, like older people, are often aware that injustice is a part of this world. Initially, that sense of injustice comes from feeling that we have been personally wronged but with time and experience, we come to see that injustice affects far more than just our selves. That's not to imply that older people are more aware of this -- I've seen some very astute, very wise young people and likewise, some older folks who seemed to be completely out of tune.

One thing when it comes to injustice, there doesn't seem to be any lack of it to go around. We're all going to have the opportunity to feel the sting of that one many times over.



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Thank you((spiritual_emergency)))
No the kids never asked for it back "thier pain and worry"......if we all did that for each other life would be very good.imo

I see that you do this for ppl here
thank you
muffy

[spiritual_emergency]

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And thank you too muffy. I think most of us who have felt deep anguish would not want another human being to have to feel it. lol. It is of course, unjust, that in spite of feeling that way, we can't protect others either although we may try, especially with our children and loved ones.

Here's another wonderful article by Pema Chodron for those who are so inclined: Turning Toward Pain

[spiritual_emergency]

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For the voices that speak in Silence.

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~ Namaste

[nowheretorun]

Namaste' SE and all.... : )