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Old May 18, 2005, 07:05 AM
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it was diffrent last night saying the Lords prayer in bed all these faces of people i know came flashing in front of me and the message was that "they already didnt make it" and like dont pray for them because its already to late and there was a scene with this guy i saw at the support group getting suffocated by a coat falling on his face and he didnt know how to push it off and other signs. getting these messages from all over and i have to decode the meaning but part is saying "its a symptom its delusion and not real " but if it is and i dont listen then we are all in trouble.

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Old May 18, 2005, 09:50 AM
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It must be really difficult when you can't decide if something in your mind is real or not. How very confusing that must be! And especially when it comes to religious concepts such as prayers with visions. I guess if this were me, I'd have to try to decide if the being I was praying to would make a statement like "don't pray for them because it's already too late ". In my mind I think everyone has the ability to change and improve....so it sounds sorta fishy to me that the idea is to just give up on people, ya know?

Does any of that make sense?

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Old May 18, 2005, 04:21 PM
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your point is well taken and does seem to make the message less credible to some of my mind. TY for that insight.
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Old May 19, 2005, 06:56 AM
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canit be possible to train your brain to nott see or hear or think a halucination or a delusion - by sheer will power or by repetition or like giving up smoking or a 12 step thing? to filter out psychotic stuff but still be able to have an imagination? and then how do you pick out what is really not real from whats a new real insight ? i know its a lot of questions maybe i shoulddddd number them.
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Old May 19, 2005, 06:23 PM
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psychic or not things will be the way they are meant to be no matter what.
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Old May 20, 2005, 02:40 PM
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Kathy, Lately I've been having those sorts of thoughts or just things that pop in my head when I'm in prayer, wondering about the outcome.

But that's not the purpose of prayer, is it? It's to trust and let go. Try to think of things that way. At Emotions Anonymous meetings I used to attend, we had a saying: Let go and let God (higher power).
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Old May 21, 2005, 11:30 PM
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psychic? maybe who knows for sure?
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Old May 22, 2005, 01:07 AM
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kathyanita, I'm sure this is causing you to suffer. I'm not sure of your history, but since you posted in this forum, I would advise to take things slowly with what your mind is telling you. From what I've experienced, when it's a real important matter, it comes in different ways and with persistance so that I can be sure... it's rare that it is "urgent."
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Old May 22, 2005, 05:50 AM
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maybe i know what you mean: do you mean that it is for you the quality of the though/belief/insight? Like relentless or compelling? As to history ive always been hospitalized only during psychotic episodes and sui_ depression one driving the other. . .so im aware of having had lost touch with reality before. I think maybe as im becoming more aware of dissociated partselves this out of touch part (that has always been voices recommending sui_ taunts and commands) can no loner be dissociated. Is this at all clearer or did i muddy it worse?
BTW i do understand that this is not therapy to discuss these things - just therapuetic - so i hold anyone harmless who gives an opinion from there own experience. i believe in peoples good intentions.
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Old May 23, 2005, 11:23 PM
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Old May 25, 2005, 12:45 AM
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I have moments where I see something like in front of me lets say driving. I'm driving on a country road and like to describe a vision of a fox or deer running out infront of my car. So I will slow down and always every time what I thought in my head comes to play. If I think a deer there's a deer. Does that mean I'm psychic? I don't always have the vision but when I do it always comes true. Should I question myself or the world around me. I have my own therory.
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Old May 25, 2005, 03:22 AM
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it happens befor you see it and it happens now and it is happening in another plain in the future time is not linear so everything IS all at once and allover in one second in eternnnnnnnity and one second is infinity so there is no psychic it is now
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Old May 26, 2005, 09:22 AM
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we put the sychotic and all that back "in the box" so never mind ( i think it was a quetion to sky but theres no answer ) i think the conversation was over with every body.
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