[Zcoder]

I don't know where to post this. I have not been diagnosed with schizophrenia but I highly suspect I will be in the near future.

About a year ago I suffered another back injury, which has left me unable to walk or sit very long without my legs going numb to the point it feels like I have wooden legs.

So I finally swallowed what little pride I had left and contacted social security disability to start the process.

I have to try to collect disability insurance from the government that is against it's own citizens, unless your a corporation or rich then you are beyond the law. I cannot be brainwashed by their hypnoses techniques and their propaganda. I see through the ********. This is why news casters speak with such an natural gate and tone, its a hypnosis technique. I know they are trying to destroy me and the other good people. The patriot act gives the government the right legally to kill anyone who goes against what the government says, as a decenter you can be killed without due process or a trial. After all that's what a patriot is, one who saves his people from a corrupt government. This country is run by the super rich and I fear that it is even deeper than people against people but I don't have any evidence. Aliens have infiltrated various positions in government, not little green men, inter-dimensional beings capable of possession. The only evidence I know of regarding this is the fact that the government is obviously hiding contact with alien beings. The disclosure project is trying to stop the lies.

I feel that in the near future there will be a cleansing, a depopulation event orchestrated by alien rulers, those who originally created us through genetic engineering, those who in ancient times where thought of as angels and demons and gods, those who came from the stars and created us in their own image. My thoughts on this are supported by the fact that the us government is storing hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins and building detention centers strategically placed thru out the US. It's even been reported that they have guillotines, ordered from china, for anyone who goes against what the government says or does.

I am always on guard, I suspect everyone and trust no one, but my girlfriend who I live with, everyone else is the enemy and cannot be trusted.

At the stroke of a pen your rights can be taken away, as if they need to be defined by your rulers in the first place . For instance:

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

• EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President

We are already in an economic crisis and it will get worse. Martial law will come and there will be war against the citizens of the US.


This Friday I have a SSD appointment for psychiatric evaluation and I am so nervous I hate talking to people and I don't know what to expect. If I tell the truth they will want to lock me up for being crazy, because if you don't believe what your told you are crazy. I mean can I really tell them what I think when they are practically working for the government?

[KUREHA]

The UK government are the same. They are using mind control techniques.

I think you can tell them - I've told my nurses lots of stuff and I've only been to hospital once.

Just see how it's going, if it looks like it's going ok - just give them a bit more, if not censor what you say. If you tell them what you have here, I don't think you'll go to the hospital.

[costello]

Originally Posted by Zcoder

I don't know where to post this. I have not been diagnosed with schizophrenia but I highly suspect I will be in the near future.

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This Friday I have a SSD appointment for psychiatric evaluation and I am so n ervous I hate talking to people and I don't know what to expect. If I tell the truth they will want to lock me up for being crazy, because if you don't believe what your told you are crazy. I mean can I really tell them what I think when they are practically working for the government?

Hi Zcoder:

I agree with you that the U.S. is currently being run for the benefit of the ultra rich and multinational corporations. I think the Occupy Wall Street protestors are highlighting this right now. I listened to a Charlie Rose interview with economist Jeffrey Sach a few days ago. He's written a book called The Price of Civilization about how we got into this current mess and his recommendations for getting out.

Personally I doubt that aliens are involved. These problems were caused by ordinary human being, driven by greed and holding too much power. Human beings caused this situation, and human beings can solve it.

You mention that you're in pain and unemployed. When the whole world seems to be going to hell in a handbasket and on top of that your own little world is full of pain and problems, it's very easy to start imagining things. I suspect that's what's happening here to you.

You say you're going to have a psych eval by Social Security? So I assume you've told your theory to other people - in "real life"? Did you apply for disability based on your injured back or your odd beliefs? To get social security you have to be unable to work. Having odd beliefs alone doesn't prevent you from holding a job. The back problem may prevent you from working, but that's often harder to prove. And many people with bad backs do find some kind of work that doesn't require straining the back.

You say you're worried about being hospitalized if you talk to the evaluator about your thoughts. In most states the law says you can't be involuntarily hospitalized unless you're a danger to yourself or others. Some states add something for people who are acting in such a act that they're in imminent danger because they're so disorganized they can't care for themselves. So in theory you can't be forced into the hospital without one of those.

[Zcoder]

The main reason I applied for disability is my back. Once I was able to sit up I tried searching for possibilities based on my symptoms and with out a doubt I have herniated disks if not other problems. This alone, when the jelly like fluid of the disk is pushing on nerves and/or has damaged nerves is on the list of requirements for disability. It's not simply back pain, my back is Damaged, been having these problems since I was 18 with 3 or so sever cases that caused me to lose jobs and be out of work for many months, this last case blew my mind, I didn't realize I could experience that much pain. Anyway so, it's been a year, I can't walk very far or stand very long or sit for very long without numbness to the point I can't walk straight, even before the numbness, my leg strength is Very weak compared to before, to the point its difficult to walk normal.

I suspect I will get disability based on my back, the mri and such. Though I wanted to see the psychiatrist about my suicidal thoughts, my rage problems, my inability to have social interactions, and my anxiety problems. Its almost unheard of that someone with a severe back injury will not have depression problems and anxiety disorders brought about by the back injury itself. I suspect I have bi polar disorder, maybe schizophrenia, or somewhere in the middle hell I dont know lol. Some days its a beautiful world and I can hear something or something can happen and I loose it.

I was basically out of options, kill myself, or ask for help. The clinics wouldn't help me, they wouldn't deal with my back issue and the ones that would wanted hundreds to see me. I got on the internet and came across Social Security Disability. It turns out I've paid in enough to social security disability insurance to be eligible in case I become injured and can no longer work for a period of a year or more.

Back to what I said earlier, about the Aliens. I absolutely believe in aliens and that they have made contact and the government is withholding this information from the public, this is where I make the leap to them being involved in government.

[costello]

Hi Zcoder:

You have my sympathies on your back problems. I'm a former sufferer myself, so I know how delibitating it can be. If you weren't suffering from the depression, anxiety, rage, etc., before the back problem (and the resulting lack of employment, money issues, etc.), then no doubt the one caused the other. Chronic pain and money problems would make anyone depressed.

I'm surprised social security is evaluating you for psych issues if you applied based on your back injury. I would have thought they would confine themselves to the issue before them, but I don't have that much experience with the process.

Lots of people hold unusual beliefs and lead balanced and productive lives. I doubt that your belief about aliens being involved with the government would qualify you for disability in and of itself, because it wouldn't necessarily prevent you from working. But I also don't think it would cause you to be involuntarily hospitalized either. I think that was your original question.

About the disability application: my son is on disability, so I can tell you what little I know about that. Most people are denied on the first application. My son was. We hired an attorney. The attorney gets 25% of the back social security payment. That is, if you're approved they pay you back to the day you applied. So, in my son's case, it took a year to be accepted, so he got a lump sum of 12 months worth of payments. The attorney got 25% of that. So my son didn't have to pay anything out of pocket.

I remember the attorney telling me that the medical record was the most important thing. My son's medical record was sketchy, so I called his case manager. She agreed with me that my son would not be able to support himself and should qualify for disability. She and her supervisor took a whole day to fill in the gaps in the record so that social security could get a true picture of how handicapped he was (and still is ). Once the attorney took that medical record to SS, they reversed their decision immediately and granted him benefits.

Good luck. It can be a lengthy process.

[Zcoder]

Thank you costello,

I had my psychiatric evaluation today, it was humiliating. The woman doing the evaluation was totally professional, respectful, and nice. I was having an anxiety attack the whole time there and by the time I got into her office I couldn't stop shaking. She asked me about my childhood and I lost it, I completely broke down with no control.... I told her how my dad treated me like **** my whole life, like I was nothing, I lost it, I didn't even realize it but as she kept asking me questions I noticed a pattern thru out my life of never finishing things and not ever being able hold a job for more than 7 months to a year at the most. How I was failed in the 3rd grade, was expelled in the 7th grade for having a firearm, failed in the 10th, where I dropped out, went to vocational school and got kicked out. She seemed concerned and was supportive during my humiliating crying fit and the rest of the interview. She also mentioned that she had a good idea of what was wrong with me, then she started asking me if I hallucinated or heard noises, which I don't, I'm just sensitive to noises especially unexpected noises. It was over before I knew it and I left without asking her what was wrong with me?! I'm going to call monday and see If I can get her to return my call or email me or something, I can't believe I left without asking but I was wreck, barely able to hold it together I was worried about trying not to let my girlfriend see me like that.

Anyway, I go tomorrow for my physical examination. I always had the mental problems since I was a kid seems like, never had many friends, didn't get along with people, couldn't relate, but I've also dealt with back problems since I was 18. Now I'm not getting any better and I can't even jog, something so simple, I can't even walk very well. No more martial arts, no more sports or sparring, I can't even stand and cook a steak on the stove without my right leg and butt/groin going completely numb and my left one most of the way, then I have to shuffle and limp to a chair or the couch, and deal with the pain. I'm sorry I promise I am not fishing for sympathy, I just can't sleep and this bs is a huge part of my life now so it's always on my mind. I just want this whole thing to be over.

[KUREHA]

Sorry you have all those problems with your back, it sounds really bad.

Sometimes they won't tell you what they think you have, my doctor won't do it, he says labels aren't helpful. Sometimes I think he means I believe you, but just won't admit it.

[costello]

Oh, Zcoder, I'm sorry you're in so much pain.

Have you ever talked to a mental health therapist? It sounds like having an empathetic listener was incredibly helpful for you - even a social security evaluator. You might find it very healing to talk through some of these traumas.

I'm really sorry you don't have the outlet of jogging and doing martial arts. It can be hard to lose the things that are "keeping you sane." And I've had back problems before myself, so I can imagine it would be difficult to find an activity that got your heart rate and respiration up enough to help much. How about those recumbant bikes? Or is that not in the budget right now?

I agree with Kureha's doctor. The labels aren't helpful. And a responsible doctor wouldn't slap a label on someone based on one short interview. My younger son's gf's dad recently had some really bad psychiatric reactions to one of his medications (for a physical illness). He started raging or something, so the family called the police who wanted to take him to the hospital. He refused to go, and he weighs like 600 to 700 pounds, so I guess making him go wasn't an option. So they called in a pdoc who talked to him in his bedroom for half an hour or so. She comes out and tells the guy's wife he has bipolar. WTF? Really? You're going to say someone has bipolar after interviewing him one time for 30 minutes, during a domestic dispute, with a couple of cops standing there in the same room the whole time? Really? Where's the common sense?