[Vsn1971]

If the cause of my particular SZ was rooted in the fact that my great great great grand parents on my fathers side and my great great great grand parents on my mothers side were the same couple.

Also, if it might matter, I am a male with no brothers and 3 sisters. As best I know my 3 sisters do not appear to have any sz challenges. I was first hospitalized age 28, if that matters.

[Sometimes psychotic]

They actually got rid of the subcategories in the dsm 5.

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

They actually got rid of the subcategories in the dsm 5.

Yeah they did, though last time I was in the hospital they still used the subtypes for diagnosing... Hmm.

[newtus]

yea when i was in the hospitals like 5+ times this year they still used subcategories and diagnosed me with paranoid schizophrenia

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

Yeah they did, though last time I was in the hospital they still used the subtypes for diagnosing... Hmm.

Something about teaching an old dog new tricks I guess? Hard to lose what you've already learned to be fact but my understanding is there was no knowledge being gained by subtyping people.

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Something about teaching an old dog new tricks I guess? Hard to lose what you've already learned to be fact but my understanding is there was no knowledge being gained by subtyping people.

I agree with you, there was really no good that came from the subtypes. I've gotten all of the subtypes at different points in my life depending on which of my symptoms was predominant at the time... which is just bad practice in a hospital where they quite frankly don't observe you for very long. I get that they have to put something down for insurance and such but still...

[Axiom]

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

They actually got rid of the subcategories in the dsm 5.

Oh... When did the new DSM come out? I was diagnosed with the undifferentiated subtype this summer, and they used the DSM to diagnose me because they were researchers and researchers prefer the DSM.

[newtus]

Originally Posted by Axiom

Oh... When did the new DSM come out? I was diagnosed with the undifferentiated subtype this summer, and they used the DSM to diagnose me because they were researchers and researchers prefer the DSM.

In March

[Manic Marauder]

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

They actually got rid of the subcategories in the dsm 5.

This is true, but the NIMH also reject the DSM-V and all DSM criteria in their research in all things. So it seems the APA is on its way to being a non-entity, anyway.

[Manic Marauder]

Originally Posted by Vsn1971

If the cause of my particular SZ was rooted in the fact that my great great great grand parents on my fathers side and my great great great grand parents on my mothers side were the same couple.

Also, if it might matter, I am a male with no brothers and 3 sisters. As best I know my 3 sisters do not appear to have any sz challenges. I was first hospitalized age 28, if that matters.

Dude, I've been hospitalised almost 10 times in the past and believe me, it can change up between acute crises anyway. In Britain they're focusing more on transdiagnostic models and trauma informed services in our National Health Service... all good stuff that sprouted out of the Canadian system and is a progressive step forwards in working with people in lieu of less medication and more strongly addressing root causes and exacerbating factors to mental illness.

[Manic Marauder]

Originally Posted by Axiom

Oh... When did the new DSM come out? I was diagnosed with the undifferentiated subtype this summer, and they used the DSM to diagnose me because they were researchers and researchers prefer the DSM.

Researchers prefer the DSM? Not for long. I think in Europe we may have a hold out in the Netherlands... but most places are distancing themselves from the American Psychiatric Association.

In the DSM-V they make an attempt to pathologise PMS... which that haven't considered to be a 'sickness' since the Dark Ages. Just like the APA to be living in the past... pharmaceutical companies like GSK and Lilly are more like alchemists than anything.

[freyed]

When I was first "sick" they diagnosed me With Hebephrenic schizophrenia, wich today would have been called disorganized schizophrenia. Im glad it later got changed to Paranoid schizophrenia, because it is less severe than the hebephrenic schizophrenics Ive encountered atleast.

I favour the use of sub diagnosis, because schizophrenia isnt just 1 disorder. Its probably several. And they should increase the number of sub-categories, not combine. Well my two cents anyway.