[OliverB]

For me there are different Worlds, the rational-scientific connected with Dead World, my World connected with the rational-scientific and Dead. Then there is Wonderlad connected with my World but not with dead, since in Wonderland you are not alive so you can't die. Entities who talk to me throught Wonderland are heard in my World, while voices that come beyond the reality are heard mostly in the rational-scientific World since it is more physical, but sometimes I can hear them in my World too.

Once I was dragged to Wonderland by entities and I thought they were bad, now I know they were trying to help me. They want me to join them in Wonderlad by extracting my spleen and then killing myself in the most violent way. I won't. I will find another way to be in Wonderland for a while, but then I want to return to the rational-scientific World.

all these worlds are real, they are just different realities.

My body is real in my world and in the rational-scientific world, but not in Wonderland, as well as entities are real in Wonderland and in my World but not in the rational-scientific World.

Note that the rational-scientific World doesn't mean the other worlds are irrational, it just mean they are arational, like being social, asocial and antisocial are not the same.

I am connected with these Worlds since I am special and I have these skills while most of people don't, I just need to know if it is considered a delusion in the rational-scientific World to avoid freaking out people that only live in one reality

[Sometimes psychotic]

Yes I would say its a delusion.....

[OliverB]

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Yes I would say its a delusion.....

Then the rational-scientific World must be really boring.

[OliverB]

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Yes I would say its a delusion.....

So you only have a World or Universe?

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by Nocter

So you only have a World or Universe?

I only have 1 right now but I used to have the spirit world/dream world in addition the the "real" world---the rules are different there. Meds made the dream world go away.

[mindwrench]

If I told the T's and Pdocs everything I believe, then they and I would disagree about how many of those things are delusions. I know some likely are, but some are not and they just can not see the truth, or approach with an open mind & capacity for thought. I firmly believe that there some aspects of the mind, life, world, universe, etc that not everyone will be able to understand or experience. Failing to see or understand a concept does not in itself invalidate the concept.

However, in the society in which we live and the mental health industry we deal with there are some things we can't disclose (especially once we're documented to be mentally ill), unless of coarse we want an increase in our meds, or room and board upstairs at the hospital.

[OliverB]

Originally Posted by mindwrench

However, in the society in which we live and the mental health industry we deal with there are some things we can't disclose (especially once we're documented to be mentally ill), unless of coarse we want an increase in our meds, or room and board upstairs at the hospital.

This is why I ran away from the mental health system at 17 and returned a year ago when I found a psychiatrist who won't put me on meds and won't inpatient me just because he disagree with me.

He will only inpatient me if I am about to kill me or someone else. He won't push meds, actually, I only take lamotrigine for post-psychosis recurrent depression.

[OliverB]

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

I only have 1 right now but I used to have the spirit world/dream world in addition the the "real" world---the rules are different there. Meds made the dream world go away.

Don't you miss your special ability to conntact to the spirit-dream world?

[12AM]

I used to have special abilities but my meds took them away. I do miss my wonderland and underworld, but I don't want to go back there.. because my wonderland and underworld aren't real, no matter how high my achievements in those world, they mean nothing because they aren't real. For me it is like having a pile of laprechauns coins. It is tempting, it is captivating, it is mesmerizing, it is satisfying.. until one day they dissapear. But the lessons from those worlds are real, and lessons about life always priceless, no matter in which world we are living in.

Nocter

[junkDNA]

I would rather live in the real world

[justmeandmyhead]

I had the real world, a midworld and the other dimension. The midworld was a point between this world and the other dimension. I was determined that I would be able to travel through to the other dimension, as I could perceive things in the midworld (seeing things and hearing things).
For me it was double edged. I loved having a place were I was important and where things seemed to matter. But it was also terrifying and alienating. I thought that being in those worlds was the only chance I had to be somebody...I had no friends, no job, and couldn't see the point in real life.
This was only half a year ago, but my life is so different now. I have friends, I had an interview and got the job, I have hope for the future. Everyone says I'm so much better to be around now, and I feel amazing.
I was looking to the other world to fill in the gaps in my life, but if you fill those gaps with things from the real world, life becomes so much more meaningful.
I'm happier than I have been in years, and I honestly don't miss my other worlds now. I'm going to do everything in my power to stay in this world.
I hope you don't think I'm lecturing you, I just wanted to help see a different viewpoint.

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by Nocter

Don't you miss your special ability to conntact to the spirit-dream world?

I did at first but also I learned shamanism which allowed me to transition. Things that others believe too aren't considered a delusion. With shamanism you visit the upper lower and middle world of this planet....when I'm feeling a little symptomatic I fall back on shamanism. I can safely express myself because there are rules like you have to ask if you're going to heal someone remotely etc...before in the dream world I thought I could heal everyone and I had a lamp I thought was a staff.....with shamnism there is just chanting music and a shaker and you do it safely in your home. I don't really do this at all when I'm totally well. As others have said I have things that fill the void now, I used to have only work friends now I have a best friend and a boyfriend.....it was a lot of work to find them but they are better than the spirit world.