[objtrbit]

I love this formum-safest place to rant about this;

I went to a psych club for my university...ended up getting laughed at for being psychoanalytic...the sponsor made the comment that "there are still some freudians out there"...what the heck, there is a whole division of apa that is psychoanalytic! Then I askled who in there actually wanted to treat clients-two people yo, two! wtf I'm all alone in that darn club, and they want me to be president of a research club-based nature. I love research. But. I would rather sit as a group together, talk about our personal lives, and practice dealing with real world issues like transference and the recreating of unconscious conflicts. I feel like I am suffocating in my classes.

Two more years to go until I can get to a private school that will actually teach me this stuff. All the textbooks that do mamage to have a section on Freud and his followers are still written by people who are NOT psychodynamic, and therefore vomit their discouragement all over it. And in the criticism sections they argue the stupidest ****-like occum's razor (that parsimony theory that says that the more complicated something is, the less likely it will be true) and so they through in Freud's most controversial theories, like odeipus, make a ridiculous run on sentence, and then call it complicated. AAAAAGGGGHHHH I hate them!!! AGGGHHH!!!!!
You wanna see something complicated but true? Go look up then lens law. EERRRRRRRRRR what assholes!

Can I make it for two more years suffocating in cog/behavioral ********? aaahhhhhh

[unaluna]

Ugh! Tell them to stuff it in their Skinner box! My T mocks me for being more Freudian than he is! Grrrr!

[Perna]

It is unfortunate that undergrad psychology is mostly "science" stuff about how the brain works, neurology and research stuff. That's what got me into sociology instead. Back when I was in school (1960's/70's) it was all Carl Rogers and his "Person-Centered" therapy; well, duh????

[objtrbit]

@ hankster-lol! I just don't know how to deal with cog/behavioral; neutrality, to me, reassures that you get outta there knowing how and why you stand, instead of 'simply' replacing behaviors and thoughts.

@Perna-It truly does suck that all of it is focusing on the science portion-we deal with humans everyday-not to say we should treat everyone like clients, but there is a lot to be learned interpersonally too! lol on the 'person-centered' therapy! I would actually like to learn a little bit of humanism-neurtrality and positive regard are a good combo I think;

Thanks you guys!!!! It meant a lot, I feel so darn alone lol

[Travelinglady]

Sorry that you don't like the psych approach at your school. However, I assume you're still an undergraduate. Is that correct?

[objtrbit]

Originally Posted by PAYNE1

Sorry that you don't like the psych approach at your school. However, I assume you're still an undergraduate. Is that correct?

I am an undergrad, but I still only have two other choices of schools that teach psychoanalysis/dynamics pre-doctorate. Both are expensive private schools and I'm going to be in debt forever lol

What do you think Freud would say to you?

[unaluna]

Oh, Byz. Good question. objtrbit, if time is money, etc, why ARE you going for a master's (which might be looked at askance, is that why it's not generally available?) and not a phd? and have you considered an MCSW? As an example, Jeffrey Seinfeld I would put up there with ANYONE, any degree. Find a place YOU FIT, that fits you, that you don't have to fight - really they do exist. Try to work this out BEFORE you make a big commitment?

[objtrbit]

Originally Posted by hankster

Oh, Byz. Good question. objtrbit, if time is money, etc, why ARE you going for a master's (which might be looked at askance, is that why it's not generally available?) and not a phd?

I feel like I could handle a master's degree not being Freudian, because I get to do field experience...I feel like I could do what I do fine, they can't discriminate me just because I'm using psychoanalytic tech, not that they would recognize it...anyway, just for the experience really-anxiety over going straight to a doctorate. Also, if I go for my master's at this private school, I won't have to take the GRE right away like I would for the doctorate....what does finding X have to do with how one feels?! I just have to know. lol.
I have not had math besides sadisitics in over 3 years.

and have you considered an MCSW?

Well, the only degree psychoanalysis is taught in is the doctorate. Or post. What is that? Looked it up can't find the abbrevation...however if it is a masters degree, then it won't work...

As an example, Jeffrey Seinfeld I would put up there with ANYONE, any degree. Find a place YOU FIT, that fits you, that you don't have to fight - really they do exist. Try to work this out BEFORE you make a big commitment?

The only place I fit in lies within the walls of two different private schools, or I have to suffer every last step of the way through cog/behavioral's ********. (which honestly I will end up being ecclectic, using it as necessary...but still I freakin hate the majority of it. )

@Byz....Freud would probabley want to delve into why I hate cog/behavioral so much. I would say I hate the 'cured in 6 weeks' ****, I hate how it fails to listen-just like my parents lolz Personally, I would hate any therapy that tells me what to think or to just change my behaviors, or record for insight. Whatever peeps it's the emotional workthrough that matters! blah

[unaluna]

Master's in Clinical Social Work. Sorry about the math, yeah, all you can do for that is practice practice practice. But at least the GRE is 'normal' again - I hate that they had it computerized and figured if you could not do one level or type of problem, then you couldn't do the "next". There is no "next" in math, mostly it's all different, IMO!

[objtrbit]

Originally Posted by hankster

Master's in Clinical Social Work. Sorry about the math, yeah, all you can do for that is practice practice practice. But at least the GRE is 'normal' again - I hate that they had it computerized and figured if you could not do one level or type of problem, then you couldn't do the "next". There is no "next" in math, mostly it's all different, IMO!

Is the revised version paper now? A computerized GRE doesn't sound good lol, I've taken paper tests my whole life-it would be so weird to have to do one on a computer-or were you speaking of the question determining whether or not you could answer the next one? Yeah that would suck-maybe if it was worded just a little diferently you could get it...yeah a masters gives me a lot more time. In that case, an MCSW sounds cool; feels like there are so many directions to take it lol