is it the same????

so, now that I've started posting in this forum, it seems I can't stop. I've got yet another question. I know, typically, mast****tion is when touching the "down there" parts. But would other things count if that kind of touching causes an intense reaction like doing it "down there"?.....................I rarely touch "down there," but often rub my tummy and get a similar reaction.........as well as when I'm touching the "up there," grown-up woman parts. Is it the same thing as if I was doing it "down there"?

I'm not sure what the actual definition is, although I think it is generally understood to be genital contact of some kind... I guess if it is solo activity designed with the aim of physical sexual feelings it might be technically considered masturbation no matter what body part is used to create those feelings. Those "other body parts" are commonly things like nipples, which I expect might count as a sexual act at the very least if it is done with sexual feeling as the intent.

If it's arousing and causing some sort of erotic or pleasurable stimulation, than yes, you are masturbating.

Thanks for your reply................In that case, then I don't wanna do it anymore........... I don't wanna do "it," so I gotta stop doing these other things........................but it's so hard!

Masturbation is completely natural, there's nothing demonic about it.

Thanks for your reassurance...................It still feels kinda yucky to be even talking about this stuff

It is completely normal. I cannot believe I am even talking about this. I know this is not normal conversation stuff. But any touching in the way you are speaking is not wrong. It serves a very educational purpose. It helps you become more familiar w/ your body and what you like so one day when you share the gift of you w/ someone special you have a general idea what is happening to you. It is so helpful to learn to control our urges and give in to our urges. Reguardless of weather you are male or female it is ok to be doing it. (touching) It's part of life. If they talk about it on TV and on movies then it must be part of acceptable life.

Big Mama
Thanks for replying. I'm sorry if I'm making you uncomfortable and feeling like you have to respond. ...........but, is it really okay to "know myself" in this particular way? it feels so weird.......emotionally. But, physically, it's another story. Anyway...........I just can't accept that this is ok...........I'm trying, I really am, but it's so hard.

It is hard to accept that part of life. You are not making me uncomfortable. I just am. And I want you to know you are not alone in feeling awkward w/ this subject. This is an area where we need to know ourselves. Uuug just came to mind. But reguardless it is an area that we need to have knowledge and understanding of.