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Old Feb 12, 2013, 11:40 PM
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We cannot choose our feelings but we do choose how to act upon them. I have never argued that such feelings don't exist. And I have already argued that we cannot possibly make all of our decisions on feelings alone.

I'm not sure where you're getting this from or why you are taking this opinion so seriously. I have said nothing to offend you or any other homosexual. I have not labeled you or judged you in any shape form or fashion. My religion disagrees with homosexuality. I do not hold ill will towards any. All I ask is that you respect my opinion as I respect yours. I am not here for debate. I am only here to help a friend.
Oh, I am not a homosexual. I am straight, on the extreme pole of straight for that matter.

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Old Feb 12, 2013, 11:43 PM
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What does OP stand for?
I'm in the US by the way.

Thank you for caring enough to say anything. It means a lot.
OP is either you, the original poster, or your opening post, as per context.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 01:31 AM
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Hi Girl.

Girl, I think it's wonderful that you hold such respect for your faith. I was raised as a Christian, and I attend a historically Baptist college. Though I am straight, and thus don't share your precise dilemma, I do understand the struggle between balancing what you want and what your faith says.

I would echo the advice given earlier about slowing down a hair, and trying not to worry about it so much right now. But barring that, I would tell you to please relax a little. I'm not about to deny that the Bible outright mentions homosexuality as a sin. But even if that is indeed the case, what you have to understand is that all sin is equal in the eyes of God (James 2:10), and that we are all sinners. Homosexuality gets a sort of "special" treatment as some sort of horrendous taboo due to the media coverage of it as a "hot topic." God isn't going to deny you solely on the basis of homosexuality, if that is the case.

lol And I would point out what my Intro to Christianity professor pointed out (himself being an ordained minster and a PhD). Homosexuality is condemned in the same part of the Bible that forbids the cutting of hair, tattoos, and shellfish, among other things. Leviticus was largely written for the Levites (the book name literally means "for the Levites), from which the priest caste of ancient Jewish tradition were drawn.

I personally do not think God is going to condemn you if this is who you feel you are. I don't think homosexuality is necessarily mutually exclusive with a Christian life. I certainly don't believe you should be disowned for that...that is incredibly harsh and bigoted of your parents, if you don't mind me saying so.

Additionally, I am so, so sorry to hear of that JOKE of a "lawyer" of yours! That infuriated me to read...I am a pre-law major with hopes of becoming an attorney. His behavior to you is utterly disgraceful. I am so sorry his incompetence robbed you of the justice you deserve.

Lastly...and I certainly do not mean to throw fuel on the fire, but I don't think this topic is the place for the debate that's popping up. I understand there are mutually conflicting points of advice offered, my own being guilty of that, but if the discourse on the topic is upsetting the OP, I think we owe it to her to agree to disagree, do we not? Again, do not mean to agitate anyone...simply looking out for OP, is all, and trying to keep the peace.

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Old Feb 28, 2013, 05:33 AM
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Hi Girl of many faces,
Im in the same boat as you and my heart has been broken into a thousand pieces. I know exactly where you're at and what you're feeling...it is incredibly difficult but If you do have a relationship with God bring it to him first...I recommend waiting before you discuss with this woman how you feel about her, tempting as it may seem...please make a right decision with this, your friend seems lovely but in my case I was the object of ridicule, rumors and gossip...Please, guard your heart at the moment...its hard to pull back but try not to get too attached just yet...I am still getting over my heart break for a woman who said she loved me, we both had amazing chemistry but at the end of the day she was in it for her own reasons, and is now with a man..be careful and seek the counsel of the Lord and the bible...there are many ex gay Christians who know how you feel and their feelings have diminished over time with prayer and counselling..please do not mistake this as denying your feelings because they are there and exist..just be wise
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Old Feb 28, 2013, 09:19 PM
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hi again baby girl,
If you need someone to chat to and discuss stuff please let me know and feel free..

here for you

Your big sister
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Old Mar 03, 2013, 05:33 PM
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You might be interested in this web site. It discusses whether or not homosexual acts are actually sinful by looking closely at the relevant Bible passages:

http://canyonwalkerconnections.com/about-2/ (about the owner of the website)
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Old Mar 03, 2013, 08:39 PM
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I really don't see how all the replies of "homosexuality is wrong" are helpful here. To the original poster, if you want to spend your entire life believing that and hating yourself, then go ahead. But for the sake of advice I don't see how that's helpful at all.

Last time I checked, the bible also said a woman can't wear pants (Deuteronomy 22:5) and you also can't talk to a woman on her period (Leviticus 18:19, 20:18, 15:19-30...). Need more examples? I have plenty. But I'm pretty sure everyone has violated those rules. If you're going to follow the bible word for word, then do so and stop picking random verses to live by as an excuse to be hateful towards certain people.
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