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Old Jul 21, 2013, 12:39 AM
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I do not get what feels dirty, but sure I do get why it would be depressing. No, that is not stupid. But look - you need to take care of burning/discomfort/smell, and without visiting a clinic, you cannot take care of those issues - so you really need to go!
Yeah I don't really know why I feel dirty thinking about having a doctor look my vagina. I guess it's probably because my mom shamed me for talking about anything that could be slightly construed as sexual.

Thanks so much for your responses. I will think about setting up an appointment. I'm still just scared about it.
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Old Jul 21, 2013, 03:47 PM
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Yeah I don't really know why I feel dirty thinking about having a doctor look my vagina. I guess it's probably because my mom shamed me for talking about anything that could be slightly construed as sexual.

Thanks so much for your responses. I will think about setting up an appointment. I'm still just scared about it.
Then have a nurse or midwife take a look! Even a male nurse, if it's the woman/woman thing due to your mom!!

I agree, with Hamster about the urgency to get this checked out!! Untreated infections or whatever could be causing this burning/scent situation for you, untreated can turn to worse things in life!!

Are you scared, that your mom will find out, you were seen? Do you have any out of town friends, you can go visit, and use their local medical staff??

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Old Jul 21, 2013, 03:53 PM
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So, are you happy with your vagina?
Am I happy with my vagina?! Um, yeah!!
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Old Jul 21, 2013, 03:56 PM
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Then have a nurse or midwife take a look! Even a male nurse, if it's the woman/woman thing due to your mom!!

I agree, with Hamster about the urgency to get this checked out!! Untreated infections or whatever could be causing this burning/scent situation for you, untreated can turn to worse things in life!!

Are you scared, that your mom will find out, you were seen? Do you have any out of town friends, you can go visit, and use their local medical staff??

I did set up an appointment with the OB-GYN my doctor has been bugging me to go to. Now it's just a matter of not canceling the appointment and actually going.
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Old Jul 21, 2013, 04:08 PM
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For the women in here there is a book great for this topic.....

Its called "What's Up Down There?" By Lissa Rankin another good one by her is "Mind Over Medicine"......great insights!
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Old Jul 21, 2013, 10:14 PM
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I used a speculum, mirror and flashlight before because I wanted to see what my cervix looked like. Pretty cool.
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Old Jul 22, 2013, 04:32 AM
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I used a speculum, mirror and flashlight before because I wanted to see what my cervix looked like. Pretty cool.
Nicely done.

I am glad that there is some vaginal consistency amongst females, at least that is the impression I am getting here. I have only had access to one vagina in my life and it comforts me to know that I won't have to acclimatize much if I ever get female attention again.
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Old Jul 22, 2013, 09:26 AM
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Nicely done.

I am glad that there is some vaginal consistency amongst females, at least that is the impression I am getting here. I have only had access to one vagina in my life and it comforts me to know that I won't have to acclimatize much if I ever get female attention again.
They're like snowflakes.
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 09:09 AM
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Yes i am happy with my vagina - it is aesthetically pleasing to me and performs as i would want it too.
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 09:15 AM
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I just find them to be very judgmental, cold, and heartless.
I've found this to be the case too. I can't recall a positive experience with one in a long time
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Old Aug 01, 2013, 02:21 AM
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i hate my vagina and my breasts. I know i'm snug, i control the muscles well, i know how to use it, but i think it is horrifically ugly and i do not allow oral sex. ever.
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Old Aug 01, 2013, 02:48 AM
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Oh now are we hating/loving on breasts? In high school the boys would tell me I had "nice lungs". Back then I had a purple crushed velvet bikini and had no idea how good I looked........

.....compared to now I am more than twice that age and let me just say that gravity is not kind to the female body.
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Old Aug 01, 2013, 10:33 AM
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Gravity and childbearing.
Funny how the breasts and vagina, two things that men enjoy on a female are also the two things that take the brunt of the 'normal outcome' of such escapades (bearing children) and then are the two things that often are the first to betray us by showing signs of use, lol.
At one point, supple, smooth, firm etc.. then *sighs* anyhooooo
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What the heck were you thinking?
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Old Aug 02, 2013, 07:22 PM
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gross, nasty, sick, That's what i think..
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Old Aug 03, 2013, 06:43 AM
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appreciate natural looking breasts, even if they are saggy.
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Old Aug 03, 2013, 07:31 AM
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HI, I wanna go back On Topic here?

"Do you worry whether your Vagina is Good Enough?" is the question?

Answer:

No.
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Old Aug 03, 2013, 07:34 AM
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No because then they would have won.
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A gentle reminder to stick with the OP's topic.
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Old Aug 04, 2013, 11:29 PM
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It is bizarre to me that women would worry about such things, because behind worrying about such things is the idea that somehow nature did not set them up correctly from the start . . . it shows some sort of disbelief in the wisdom of the evolutionary process. I just cannot reconcile it with my deeply held idea that the evolutionary process is good enough and I am one of the many fine enough culminations of the evolutionary process.
Hamster, not all of us are the result of the natural evolutionary process of selection by fitness for survival. Many of us would not have been born alive or lived beyond infancy, only now existing thanks to modern medicine. That is true for me. There is a kind of survival of many of the weakest, for humans. Even so, I agree with you in a sense and I'm not worried about my private parts.
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Old Aug 04, 2013, 11:36 PM
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I did set up an appointment with the OB-GYN my doctor has been bugging me to go to. Now it's just a matter of not canceling the appointment and actually going.
Good for you. May I suggest focus on the outcome and not the process? You need the information and help you should get as a result. Think of the relief when you know what's wrong and even more when it is fixed. Better off informed. Think of the outcome. Be strong, soldier on, get through it. And have an ice cream, video, good book, or whatever you like afterwards. You deserve it for facing your fear.
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Old Aug 07, 2013, 09:24 PM
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Hamster, not all of us are the result of the natural evolutionary process of selection by fitness for survival. Many of us would not have been born alive or lived beyond infancy, only now existing thanks to modern medicine. That is true for me. There is a kind of survival of many of the weakest, for humans. Even so, I agree with you in a sense and I'm not worried about my private parts.
I am sorry.

I should have known better than to post it the way I did, without qualifiers.

I know a BIT of what it is like - in my last pregnancy, I was, for several months, headed for a planned C-section because it appeared, on the ultra-sound, that I had placenta previa. Luckily, it was not a true previa - it was just a low sitting placenta that moved up enough as the uterus grew, so I was able to deliver at home, and although I started hemorrhaging a lot due to the low placenta, the midwives, who expected that complication, stopped the bleeding in a twinkle of an eye.

For a "true" placenta previa, the C-section is the only way to save both mother and baby. Without a C-section, both mother and baby die eventually.

I had that eerie feeling when I thought that I had a placenta previa. I thought to myself: "I am really blessed with medical technology - had I been living thousands of years ago, my days would have been numbered."

I am sorry.

Very true.
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Old Aug 08, 2013, 01:30 AM
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No need to be sorry.

I trust nature more than manmade junk in most cases, so I share your ethos, I think.
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Old Aug 23, 2013, 10:49 PM
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No need to be sorry.

I trust nature more than manmade junk in most cases, so I share your ethos, I think.
I think I know why American women have this kind of an insecurity.

I did not get any kind of a "dirty", "inadequate", etc. message about my vagina.

My mother stressed the need to use the shower hose in the right direction when washing the perineum - from front to back and not vice versa. She explained that urine is sterile while feces is not, and that it was important not to push the germs from behind to the front and up the vagina. Checking on the web now, I see that she was almost right - urine might not be exactly sterile by the time it leaves the urethra, but it is almost sterile. And although I have not done it, I have read about rectal (using a synonym to avoid asterisks) sex - they stress the importance of hygiene. So the message that the vagina is very clean BY ITSELF and needs to be protected was basically correct.

Later, in the States, back before the campaign against antibiotic abuse started, I got antibiotics prescribed to me all the time, in cases in which they were not needed (I had a lot of sinus infections and other respiratory infections (bronchitis, ear infections - the whole nine yards) - basically back-to-back). The antibiotics would instantly give me a vaginal yeast infection. So I learned that the vagina had a fragile micro-flora that gets easily disrupted. That does not make it DIRTY. It makes it vulnerable, but not dirty

Yet later, I started buying an Italian hygiene product - a foam for washing the vulva. The advertising copy stressed the right pH balance of the product. It was great to use it, but hard to replenish my stash, so I switched to the product line from the Sweet Spot labs that is available in the US. It does not feel as good to use it because it is liquid - I prefer the foam - but it does the job beautifully. That the vagina has a specific pH that needs to be respected does not make it DIRTY.

So basically it is an organ that needs to be treated with care and without too much intervention, to avoid disrupting its micro-flora (the "good" bacteria that live there), to avoid changing its pH, and to avoid having germs enter it from the back. That kind of treatment - being careful, using gentle rather than harsh cleansers, etc. - underscores that it is a body part that requires respect.

Cf.
- a commercial for Summer's Eve which still sells douches even though they are harmful at worst and a waste of time and money at best.

This is their current commercial - apparently, in the past they had a commercial with mom and daughter walking on the beach and talking about the fresh clean feeling.

So that message - that vagina is by itself dirty and needs to be cleaned by commercial products to get a fresh feeling - is not something girls and women should hear.

Since they do hear it, it is no surprise that they become self-conscious.
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Old Aug 25, 2013, 04:37 PM
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A woman could really like a man but not know his penis size until it's revealed. She could then reject him based on his size and that could really hurt him...

Also, penis size can often coincide with vaginal orgasms... But many women do care about penis size.
So... there's a lot to say here.
Which may deviate from the topic slightly, but so be it.
If a woman actually really truly likes this guy, she's not going to reject him based on the size of his penis.

If she does, she is a fool. For serious.
Because it's not like size is the ONE AND ONLY determining factor of how pleasurable sex or sexual activities are.
many people may believe that, these people are mistaken, and lack some serious communication and experimental abilities- both of which coincide with vaginal orgasms [which are a challenge, much more so than clitoral for some women, btw] just as much, if not more than, the size of a man's penis.

Really good sex means really good communication.

I mean, just my two cents.
And some string from my pocket.

uhhhmm..

ha sorry.
Ok TOPIC:

When I was younger, I was extremely worried about what everything looked like, if I smelled "ok", blah blah blah. This should have been a sign that i wasn't comfortable enough with my body for sex. It was a sign i didn't really heed.

But, at this point...
I kind of realize there is no perfect anything about anyone, and that's ok?
Regarding taste, etc. I've actually had a couple people say [though in the course of casual conversation- as casual as this topic can be] that... having something to taste is much preferable to being squeaky clean. They'd rather a woman not wash herself completely away.

*shrug*

I've never been on the giving end, I can't say much to that. But I dig certain body smells, so I see the point.

I tend to drift when i write.
Apologies.

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