Christian + Queer

Yeah I dropped hints today - kind of accidentally though. I told my friend "I'm so done crushing on guys, they never like me back anyway and I don't even want a relationship." Then out of nowhere today one of my friends who is anti-gay jokingly asked "are you gay?" in which I laughed and said no even though that was a complete lie.

I feel **** for lying to people like that, especially since she's not one of those homophobes who are really nasty, she was just raised to believe it was wrong and she's one of my closest friends. I don't think she'd abandon me or anything, I hope, she's too nice. I just don't want to lose her as a friend (don't have a crush on her or anything) but yeah, she's just someone I really trust and share secrets with her, but being gay is just not one that I would confess straight up. I agree with the whole people teaching children that there's only heterosexual people and cis people.

I did work experience at a child care and this boy was upset because the girls would tease him for liking barbie dolls and I told him that it's okay for girls to like boy things and boys to like girl things and he gave me the biggest smile and I don't think I've ever achieved such a positive impact onto a child before, because if it was one of the teachers they'd probably be like "no barbies are for girls."

It just annoys me, because I'm quite tomboyish I guess, I hate wearing girly things like dresses and skirts and my mother is always trying to get me to wear dresses or says stuff like "you should try dressing nice for once." It's like, thanks, that makes me feel loads better about myself.

I generally hate it when my mother tries getting me something girly, she gave me makeup for my birthday when she KNOWS I do not wear make up at all. And she said to me when I was given it "for a fresh start." And after that she continued to try forcing this girly persona onto me that just wasn't me.

And sometimes she forgets I have guy friends as well and when I talk about one of them she's like "ooh, do you like one of them?" And it's like, can't a male and female not be friends without others assuming they are dating, straight or not? It ticks me off so much.

And these friends you have, joking about gays and cutting, seriously? I don't think they're very good friends. If one of my friends made a joke about either rape, LGBT people, suicide, self harm, mental illness, races, genders etc.. I would not be their friend anymore. I mean I can tolerate people being like "oh I'm just not a supporter of LGBT people." But I do not tolerate "They should be stoned to death." Because whether you are against LGBT people or not - you should still RESPECT them, no matter what your views are.

I think I rambled a bit there, but seriously, I hate hiding in the closet and I hate gender roles.

Yeah, a lot of Christians FAIL to understand that when it comes to gay/bisexual people only. They can forgive a murderer but can't forgive someone who has done nothing wrong but fall in love with the same sex?

I have to say that I find that a shocker. Considering you support a society that causes wars, watches innocent african babies die from aids every year and still does nothing about their advice on contraception (because what's that babies sin?) Oh, and not to mention the millions paid out in compensation to protect the largest paedophile ring in the world, that is allowed to go on in their own institution.

The abuses and sins of the church far outweigh most other known to man. And you give you love, money and support to that! I wouldn't be so self righteous if I were you!!

And for the record, I am not part of your disgusting devil worshipping group and nor are a lot of us good people and you and them are not forgiven and just as Dante put all the popes burning in hell, I would imagine the people that supported it will have their time in purgatory my friend-good luck with that.

Butterfly - I don't think it is a sin to love someone sweetheart, and if that person happens to be the same sex as you, it is still love.

It is a sin to not love someone tho and to judge and be sanctimonious-they are sins.

xxxxxxx

Love is very difficult to find.............. in any form. You need to accept yourself Huggles

Because when you do selfish acts, and that includes selfish sexual acts, you make yourself depressed in the long run. That's why selfish sex is considered a sin in the bible. It's more then just a moral thing. I've been there, I've been selfish before on that and it always took me down a path of misery. Sex is not something to be played about with. You people think that something that is designed to create a life is something you can just mess around with. Do you see animals having constant sex or being constantly obsessed with sex like humans in ( especially western society) are?

The reason why gay sex is considered sin in the bible is because two men cannot reproduce and nor can two women. Sin means " to miss the mark". Two men/ two women who have sex cannot reproduce therefore it is missing the mark. Also the vagina and the penis both have nutrients that a man and women both give to each other when they have sex without a condom. A man having sex with another man cannot do that. I suppose they could both swallow each other's semen but it's not the same thing.

A man who constantly ejaculates and masturbates is depleting his life source, is risking mental and physical illness. This is not a myth, a man gives away a lot of minerals when he ejaculates. But the doctors don't want men to know that and encourage masturbation so you become depressed and they can sell you their useless and dangerous antidepressants.

Animals masturbate. It has been observed in dogs, deer, horses, monkeys, goats, elephants, just to name a few examples. It's is also scientifically impossible to prove whether or not animals have sex for pleasure or for procreation. Obviously, they are hardwired to procreate, but it's impossible to truly tell if they have other underlying motives behind having sex or if sex is pleasurable. There have been studies on animal behavior that point towards animals having sex for non procreative reasons, like the fact that many animals do masturbate, have oral sex, rub genitals, have sex outside of their species, engage in sexual cannibalism and necrophilia, and of course, homosexuality. Your argument about using animals as a measure for sexual morality also falls short in terms of homosexuality. There are TONS of gay animals. It has been observed in over 1500 species of animals.

The idea that semen has nutrients in it that act as an antidepressant for women is also an urban legend. When two people have sex, they release a lot of oxytocin. Oxytocin is a chemical that will make two people feel connected, loved, and a deeper romantic attachment. Because of that, sex feels like it is injecting an antidepressant when in reality, the feel good part of it is just a release of the endorphins that already exist within the body and can in no way replace an antidepressant. They aren't even supposed to do the same thing. It is an urban legend that sounds like someone made up to get people to sleep with them without protection. But because the chemical that makes people feel good from having sex is oxytocin, it doesn't matter if the two people having sex are men or women or a man or a woman or wearing protection or not.

Masturbation on the other hand, does release some oxytocin but it isn't the same as when a couple has sex. Masturbation isn't depleting a life force or wasting nutrients. You can't waste all of your sperm away even if it did contain said antidepressants. Males produce sperm throughout their entire lives.

Masturtbation also has TONS of positive side affects like reducing the risk for cancer. It can make you depressed if you do it too much or if you are masturbating when you want to be having sex and you feel lonely and invalidated due to lack of sex, but the act itself doesn't make someone depressed.

Sin means to go against god. It does not mean "to miss the mark". Sin is an invention of religion. It is not something that exists in the natural world without the influence of religion. I'm not saying that to devalue anyone's belief in sin. It is really just a religious way to talk about the "objective morality" within their own religion. However, there really is no "objective morality" even within religion. People cherry pick the bible and decide for themselves which parts are "out dated" or "out of context" to the point where Christians have subjective morality just like the rest of the world. You can decide "sin" or "bad things to do" are whatever you believe them to mean.

Also, the mineral argument makes no sense on a few levels. Would it be selfish for me to NOT to bes super promiscuous or a porn star or prostitute and exchange minerals with tons of men?

Everything you have said is incorrect and I suggest you do some research.

Semen is 'good for women's health and helps fight depression' | Mail Online

Is Sex an Antidepressant? - Depression Center - Everyday Health

What does sin mean?

Also many animals do masturbate and eat their own semen after doing so. Homosexuality does happen in other animals, but I was explaining the reason why the bible states homosexuality is wrong and a sin.

Anyway, I don't want to take this thread off topic. The reason why most christians aren't accepting of homosexuality is because the Bible isn't and to christians, the bible is the word of God. They are not going to choose condoning homosexuality over God. Most christians don't hate or dislike homosexuals, just they don't condone the act. They are entitled to that opinion

What about infertile women? I'm not going to have a man have sex with me to cure my depression and have the risk of getting pregnant or STDs. What makes me depressed is that people cannot accept one another - what people do with their sex lives is none of our business even if it isn't what your religion does. What makes me depressed is having to hide my sexuality in order to avoid being rejected. You can believe what you want, but it's not helping me and it's definitely not making me feel better about myself.

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