His part didn't look like I expected (light & frank conversation)

Maybe they don't like discussing this "part" of their anatomy, haha!!!

That guy isn't really my type, but the cigarette turned me off even more.

There are vibrators you can buy that are little men with a hat, but penis-shaped.

Know what's fun about penises when they're cute 'n' small? You can have a puppet show!

What a hottie!!!

I kinda think I would like uncircumcised. It did seem more like what I had expected in the back of my mind (based on having seen my bro when we were little). But will see if I'm ever involved with anyone "uncut" (<- never heard that slang before!).

Sid

Where are the guys? We want them to weigh in on this topic! ROFL!

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LOL LOL LOL - Guys don't want to talk about their Man-hood like that - it tends to creep them out.

(ouch!! - snip snip)

.... Gotta love the MEN!!

Where is Mellors? He should have something interesting to say? Where are all the men from Psychcentral?

Maybe the men don't check out this forum as much as we women do....hmmmmm. LOL!!!!

Mellors is having some problems. He posted about it in the General forum.

Where's DocJohn? Let's hear what he has to say!

Lastest Medical Update on Circumcision :

March 11, 2007

Circumcision - Tough Choice for New Parents

Extensive research published in the Lancet reports that male circumcision cuts the risk of HIV/AIDS infection in half. Trials conducted in Africa found that uncircumcised males were twice as likely to catch the virus as males who had been circumcised. The foreskin of the penis has a very thin lining that easily suffers abrasions during intercourse, making it easier for the virus to gain access to the body.

Critics point out that the research was conducted in Kenya and Uganda, both countries where males resist using condoms for cultural reasons. Also, males there tend to have more partners than males in industrialised nations. Because of these conditions, critics feel the findings were skewed. They also point out that, by the time a baby who is circumcised now reaches adulthood, there will likely be a vaccine for HIV. Many people feel that circumcision is genital mutilation, and studies show that males who are circumcised as infants have a lower pain-threshold as adults. So, the decision for new parents is a difficult one.

Whether or not males are circumcised, they should continue to use condoms.
Source: Medical Post / Toronto Star

> The protection that proper use of latex condoms provides against HIV transmission is most evident from studies of couples in which one member is infected with HIV and the other is not, i.e., "discordant couples." In a study of discordant couples in Europe, among 123 couples who reported consistent condom use, none of the uninfected partners became infected. In contrast, among the 122 couples who used condoms inconsistently, 12 of the uninfected partners became infected.

i guess they are fairly small scale studies in comparison. but that being said the first study suggests that condoms are 100% effective for preventing HIV transmission when used correctly and consistently.

male circumscision, on the other hand... is... thought to reduce the risk by half. i'm not sure on the statistics for HIV transmission with respect to unprotected sex to know whether using condoms inconsistently is comperable to male circumscision or not...

seems that it doesn't matter whether the guy is circumscised or not... so long as he wears a condom...

http://www.thebody.com/content/art17057.html

part of the trouble here is that circumscision has a long history of being all tied up in religious rites and rituals.

there was an attempt to advocate abstinence (rather than promote condom usage)

and now there is an attempt to advocate male circumscision (rather than promote condom usage)

still... this is really interesting to me. thanks for finding the study rhapsody :-)

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You said: "I've seen both circumcised and uncircumcised penises from working in an adult peep show, but I haven't had sex with both. Uncut penises look like elephant snouts (when flaccid)."


I have been reading this thread and I almost choked w/laughter re: the elephant snout comment!! That takes the cake!!! Funny!! You made my day w/your comment. I wasn't having a good day, but reading this lifted my spirits!!! I needed to laugh! Bless you....

hi ladies, what is the facination with curcumcised penises? this is from a bias, fully intact male, its quite simple really, if we didnt need it we would not be born with it in the first place, has for condoms slipping off because of excessive skin are you sure he is fully erect? my foreskin retracts fully when i am aroused and i have no problem with condoms

i understand that it is done mostly for religious reasons, but there is also a darker side to it and thats to make it look astetically pleasing to the eye for the females, when it is done in that context, i say shame on you, not only are you opening up a window where the recipiant of the snip is open to infection for weeks after the op, but i have been told it can be quite painful in the chaffing department threwout the rest of your life.

i can give you a example of a man who regrets being curcumcised has a child, he caught himself in the zip of his pants, just below the tip of his penis which required a trip to the hospital and 5 stitches, had he had a foreskin the damage would not have been so great, i know this because he was dating my sister at the time and i was the one who had to take him to hospital.

has anyone ever wondered who it is in the relationship that first brings this subject up in regards to there child when not in a religious context?

From my experience, there has been no difference in sexual performance whether circumcised or uncircumsized. The last sexual relationship I had was with an uncircumsized fella, and it was the best sex I had ever had!
Patty

Well, I guess I'll chime in here. I think I've had more lovers who were uncircumcised than circumcised; however, my husband is circumcised, so I've gotten used to that look. The uncircumcised men I've been with, at least some of them, really liked having their foreskins intact and told me that because of that, the "head" was more sensitive and sex was more pleasurable. Because the head is sheathed most of the time, it is kept protected from rubbing on clothes and such so it is highly sensitive when it finally is exposed during sexual excitement. They really liked that and felt circumcised men might be missing some intensity in pleasure. To me, the circumcised version looks kind of "naked." But I've gotten used to it.

i see no-one has taken me up on the challenge of my last question, i guess it is a question that answers itself, i can think of no man that would voluntarally subject his son to the snip without considerable cohersion from his significant other when not in a religious context.

and for your info i have been there with my son, and i have threatened to take her to court if she even trys it

mellors, this is not a blame game...........this is a forum where a women was surprised at how it looked. most of us took is in a cheerful tone and a few argued about it. i've had both and can't tell the least bit of difference. so, don't hang your blame game on me. my grandson isn't circumsized.

hi fay, i am sorry it looks to you like i am trying to play the blame game, i'm not, its a valid question, and within context of the original post

hey mellors. looks like we might be in agreement on this one.

i don't see a great deal of difference between male and female circumscision and i'm against both.

(even if female circumscision reduced HIV transmission i'd still be against it particularly with respect to infants who don't have a choice. condoms are far more likely to prevent HIV transmission than circumscision and condoms don't involve mutilation).

different people have their different opinions of course...

i'm kinda semi sorta thinking of how chinese women used to bind their feet because that was considered beautiful... i find the aesthetic arguments around circumscision to be similar. surely preference... is an acquired taste...

and preference...

dosn't justify mutilation either in the case of binding feet or in the case of removing foreskins or female parts (sorry to tired to remember precisely which parts)

hic

This is just a quick reply here.

Lets take any debate to a new thread please. The subject line of this thread says "light and frank". So I have to ask that the current conversation be taken to a new thread so as not to hijack.

Thanks.
Rayna

can i say something?

I just saw my very first uncircumcized penis...omg
well i dont know if it counts really....it was some old guy at the rehab center that i take care of.....i actually had to pull the foreskin back...by myself!!!- and clean it....and ill tell you if they dont clean it a few times a day...it gets pretty gross...so men with foreskin- id suggest you better go clean it if you havent yet today. ...lol....or no women will want THAT well..."with" her....lol omg im giggling and all red....i have seen a circum. penis...and boy let me tell you....i love penises in general..there funny...but thats ok...i dont stare at it alot...thats probably my bfs department....lol....im soo niave have you figured that out yet? hmmm maybe id better go do some more close research...wheres my bf??? roflmao

Everytime I read this thread... it tickles my funny bone ... big time..

I can't help thinking about my uncirc son (22 now).... when he was a BABY........... OF COURSE......

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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mellors, my doctor (a male) told me that it is usually the man who wants it done if he himself is circumcised so that father and son will look the same. THat's not my opinion, just what I was told by an obstetrician who has worked with many couples to deliver their babies. In my own marriage, my husband is circumcised but neither of us wanted that procedure for our baby boys, if we had them. I'm really glad he had that stance, as I really didn't want my sons to be circumcised. In the end, though, we had two girls!

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Huh??? Where did you ever get that, mellors? Why do you think women in general prefer the circumcised look? Both types look OK to me, but I think I do somwhat prefer the natural, uncircumcised look. However, my husband is circumcised and I certainly didn't let that stand in the way of our marriage, and I wouldn't ever tell him that (hurt feelings, etc.). After all, he can't help what happened to him as an infant.

it is probably the impression he got from the female opinions expressed in this thread...

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i see no-one has taken me up on the challenge of my last question, i guess it is a question that answers itself, i can think of no man that would voluntarally subject his son to the snip without considerable cohersion from his significant other when not in a religious context.

and for your info i have been there with my son, and i have threatened to take her to court if she even trys it

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Mellors...I have not read all below here but would assume that some daddies that have been clipped might want that for their sons to that they may "look" the same there. Less questions that way.

Not that I am advocating that.