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Oh well , sorry it didn't help. Maybe count to 15?

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Old Oct 18, 2021, 04:47 PM
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Since I’m having trouble getting back to sleep I’m reading MSF and posting too, and hoping to get back to sleep soon. 😴
I hope it works out for you. I took a bendryl and it doesn’t always help me sleep.
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I'm having more problems than usual with sleep pattern.

I fall asleep with music on the radio, then wake around 1am, switch it off and go back to sleep. Forward to 3-4am when awake again and trying to process things that have infiltrated my brain. Up to an hour later, fall asleep again. Then the "fun" starts.

Vivid dreams, almost nightmares. Not necessarily about people I know, as I dreamt about a younger member of the Royal Family the other morning. How she got into my psyche I don't know, but very relieved she hadn't really died

Have heard it could be a result of the pandemic situation.
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Old Dec 17, 2021, 08:02 PM
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I'm new here.

Yes, I have been having trouble sleeping. I have insomnia, but my dreams are not the same as before.

I think it's gotten stranger during this pandemic. I've had weird dreams and nightmares about local politicians, about my sister, and about a friend who lives in a different state. I've never dreamt like this before. Most of the time, my insomnia and nightmares are due to past traumas. But nowadays, I'm dealing with some bizarre nightmares about current events or what could possible be dangerous for the future. I worry about my friends and family members getting hurt. I lost a friend to Covid-19 last year, so that was really challenging. The news frightens me, but I feel compelled to read it, nonetheless.

I wonder if anyone else has experienced really bizarre dreams and nightmares.
I been having some really weird dreams and nightmares mainly about past trauma
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I been having some really weird dreams and nightmares mainly about past trauma
Ditto.

My T said that there are many parallels to this pandemic and our past traumas, including feeling powerless.

In former psychological studies, I could see how such memory nodes are connected, and perhaps why our unconscious plays out in our dreams.

It's hard to stay asleep and return to sleep after a nightmare.

I have interrupted sleep from nightmares all the time.

Last night I, being a disabled veteran during this traumatic pandemic, dreamt that a few of us were at war with the Middle East, and we captured a few terrorists in our private homes. We were waiting on authorities to come pick them up and send them to Guantanamo or something. Meanwhile, they were largely unvaccinated and unmasked, and they decided to start coughing while we held them captive. Although we were all masked, we didn't have proper eye and ear coverings, so I think it worried me about being exposed. They tried to weaponize the virus and/or use fear to find some way of escape. We didn't allow them to escape, but I woke up feeling worried that they tried to kill us with the virus. This was my dream last night/this morning.

Mind you, I never served overseas, nor have I ever fought in a war. I was trained, and I am a veteran, but I never deployed. I have no idea why I had that dream.

I also felt bad because I have friends from all over, including Pakistan and other parts of that world, who I think are refugees here. They are peaceful people trying to escape the terror of their land, and some have even experienced warzones. I recall meeting my friends in college, as I had very little knowledge of what transpired back there, apart from some of the stories that fellow OEF/OIF veterans have told me. Perhaps vicarious trauma ensued after hearing their stories months back, but I have no idea why. I don't believe in torture, and I don't know much about how our laws work for suspected terrorists. At any rate, I had some strange nightmare about it. I feel somewhat racist for having that nightmare, too. I don't know why I would have such a nightmare, but it felt very real to me.

Also, given my OCD, I would never reside with other people. In this dream, however, I did. That was also an odd phenomenon.
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Old Dec 19, 2021, 09:48 PM
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I'm trying a tea I found called Extra Sleepy Time. I will let people know if it works at all.

It's currently 3:42 am where I live and I've been trying to sleep for hours. Took to Benedryl and it didn't help. I tried focusing on my breathing and doing a full-body tension release, and it still didn't get me to sleep. They don't really tell you what to do when nothing natural seems to work. It's not even that my mind is being hyperactive with a lot of thoughts it just won't shut down and sleep. It won't stop being awake, even when I'm not really thinking.

I forgot to mention something that has helped me in the past when dealing with worry and anxiety as a root of insomnia. And I'm not trying to make this into a spiritual discussion, but...just surrendering my situation to a higher power to deal with and worry about, has helped me let go of an issue. My thoughts were "I've analyzed and overthought this enough, someone else can take over. I'm letting you resolve this situation so I can sleep.." And this amazingly worked. Sometimes we just need to give ourselves permission to sleep instead of solving everything. And even if someone doesn't believe in a higher power, putting some kind of mental boundary between yourself and the worry/situation would probably help too.
I will try out the sleepy tea.
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Old Dec 20, 2021, 03:00 PM
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You can also try kava tea to help relieve stress. I wonder if kava can be taken before chamomile tea though, or even together?? Does anyone know? What's in sleepy tea?
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Old Dec 21, 2021, 07:44 PM
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I don't know if this will help, but instead of just focusing on your breathing , try holding your breath and counting to 30 in your mind . After breathing in wait a few seconds and do it again. Just don't strain yourself . keep trying and see if you drift off.
It might work.
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Old Dec 28, 2021, 03:26 PM
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My sleep is improving. I'm not tossing and turning nearly all night.

Waking less frequently during the night, woke for first time at 5am this morning. No nightmares, instead a feeling I was not alone (I was!). In my subconscious a hand was holding mine from behind. When I woke, didn't feel panicked by the experience. Just the opposite. Calm, peaceful, relaxed.
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Old Dec 29, 2021, 11:32 AM
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Buffy, did you try it?
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Old Dec 30, 2021, 07:30 PM
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I tried this but I found the exercise was uncomfortable because it's too long not breathing for me and causes me anxiety. I tried counting sheep and focusing on my breathing and this didn't work either. The sleepy time tea mellowed me out but didn't make me sleep, even when I combined it with two Benedryl. I mostly spent the night in meditation. I even tried the 4 count breathing exercise.

Going through medication withdrawal makes it harder. I've been dependent on a sleep aid for many years, my brain doesn't seem to know what to do without one.
I’m sorry to hear that. Lauren Fenton has great meditation for sleep as well as other different meditation.
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I urge everyone here to consider a sleep study. If nothing else to rule some things out. The usual sleep meds thrown at us generically dx'd "insomniacs" arent the only ones out there. Im learning all about a new receptor that is targeted by a newish sleep med for me. I can share a link but only if you all want me to.
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Old Jan 09, 2022, 03:16 AM
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I still have trouble sleeping. I think I have circadian rhythm disorder, but that requires a few days of sleep study, not just the overnight sleep study that the VA gave me before they diagnosed me with sleep apnea. I also have been diagnosed with insomnia, but I think it's more than the issue with having trouble falling asleep and staying asleep. I have trouble finding a routine sleep pattern.

I also have nightmares and occasional night terrors.

Lunesta never worked for me, and ambien mixed with ativan sometimes worked and sometimes made me feel more dissociative. I stopped those meds years ago! I now only do the holistic thing through chamomile tea on occasion, melatonin on occasion, chamomile and melatonin together, Tylenol PM (but only when I'm NOT using melatonin, as I don't want a reaction) on occasion, or something nothing at all - esp. if I'm naturally tired.

I still wake up anywhere between 2 hours and 6 hours after finally falling asleep. It takes me anywhere between 2 hours to 3 hours to fall asleep. Essentially, my sleep routine would have to be for about 10 hours, due to the length it takes me for me to fall asleep, my dealing with interrupted sleep and then having to try to fall asleep again, etc. It's not fun.

And I'm almost never refreshed, due to my chronic fatigue syndrome/myalgic encephalomyelitis (CFS/ME). I deal with post-exertion malaise (PEM), so any exertion hours or a day before will cause me to have more unrefreshed sleep and sleep problems.
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I was prescribed trazodone for sleep when I was 14 and for most of my life I couldn't sleep without it. Luckily, I didn't have to keep increasing the dose though. I'm still on the minimum dose, 50 mg, and I sleep well with it. Without it, I'm usually up all night.

I did do a sleep study. I didn't think I had apnea, but was wondering about restless leg. The results were normal though. There are sleep clinics in my area, but most of them only deal with apnea, not other sleep issues.
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I was prescribed trazodone for sleep when I was 14 and for most of my life I couldn't sleep without it. Luckily, I didn't have to keep increasing the dose though. I'm still on the minimum dose, 50 mg, and I sleep well with it. Without it, I'm usually up all night.

I did do a sleep study. I didn't think I had apnea, but was wondering about restless leg. The results were normal though. There are sleep clinics in my area, but most of them only deal with apnea, not other sleep issues.

That’s a bummer because the logic is if your study is more than 5 years old you should have it redone. I’m a miracle worker finding resources so if you want you can pm me your state and I’ll look around

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I took the study a little over a year ago, so I don't think I need another one at this point. I am obese, which I know can cause apnea, but I'm a pear, so the fat is in my lower body, not around the chest and neck area where it can obstruct breathing.

I live in Texas.
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I was prescribed trazodone for sleep when I was 14 and for most of my life I couldn't sleep without it. Luckily, I didn't have to keep increasing the dose though. I'm still on the minimum dose, 50 mg, and I sleep well with it. Without it, I'm usually up all night.

I did do a sleep study. I didn't think I had apnea, but was wondering about restless leg. The results were normal though. There are sleep clinics in my area, but most of them only deal with apnea, not other sleep issues.
I used to be on trazodone, but it didn't work. At the time, I had a really adverse reaction to my psychotropic meds, which made me more suicidal. I overdosed on trazodone. I cannot use that drug at all!

But I hear it works for other people.
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You guys ever try a little wine? I don't use it but heard it works for people who can't sleep.
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Oh well , sorry it didn't help. Maybe count to 15?
I’ll try that out.
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Thanks Buffy for your response. Holding your breath and counting in a comfortable way works, and its natural.
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My mom drinks a little wine before going to sleep for the night and she snores and snores. NyQuil helps me sleep and so does getting regular exercise and going to bed around the same time every night.
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I urge everyone here to consider a sleep study. If nothing else to rule some things out. The usual sleep meds thrown at us generically dx'd "insomniacs" arent the only ones out there. Im learning all about a new receptor that is targeted by a newish sleep med for me. I can share a link but only if you all want me to.
I almost had one but I had to cancel the appointment. I wonder if I have sleep apnea or something else.
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Dear Diary today will be different today I can smile it will be genuine because today is the day I get to live.

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Like love, it's how we know we're alive.

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Thanks Buffy for your response. Holding your breath and counting in a comfortable way works, and its natural.
Your welcome
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Dear Diary today will be different today I can smile it will be genuine because today is the day I get to live.

This life will be good and beautiful, but not without heartbreak.

In death come peace. But pain is the cost of living.

Like love, it's how we know we're alive.

And life goes on.

That my life weird, messy, complicated, sad, wonderful, amazing, and above all epic and I owe all to Stephen. - Eleanor Gilbert Vampire Diaries
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Assuming if I can get any sleep at all. Im having some really weird dreams of Vin Disel in Fate of the furious or Im dreaming about ghost or past family fights.
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Dear Diary today will be different today I can smile it will be genuine because today is the day I get to live.

This life will be good and beautiful, but not without heartbreak.

In death come peace. But pain is the cost of living.

Like love, it's how we know we're alive.

And life goes on.

That my life weird, messy, complicated, sad, wonderful, amazing, and above all epic and I owe all to Stephen. - Eleanor Gilbert Vampire Diaries
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i'm schedule on April 12 to have a sleep study done at home.
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Dear Diary today will be different today I can smile it will be genuine because today is the day I get to live.

This life will be good and beautiful, but not without heartbreak.

In death come peace. But pain is the cost of living.

Like love, it's how we know we're alive.

And life goes on.

That my life weird, messy, complicated, sad, wonderful, amazing, and above all epic and I owe all to Stephen. - Eleanor Gilbert Vampire Diaries
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