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Hmmm, Zoloft AND Abilify together pulled me out of depression in just 3 weeks!
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I'm watching the trials with ketamine for severe depression. there might be hope there. if given the chance, I'd be 1 of the trial participants.
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Yes, it is so dynamic, isn't it? The only seeming constant is the depression. the meds might cast light for a minute, then clouds, then new meds/doses, or some other change. But the light I hope to see is forever more dim. Maybe I must accept a certain baseline of depression, of sad disability. I don't know what baseline to accept. All I can do is the minute by minute Serenity Prayer.
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I spent a few days on a ketamine IV 2,5 years ago.. I was high as a kite and didn't make much sense. That was partially the other painkillers I was on, but mostly ketamine. I was more anxious than depressed then though. But that might've been because I was in the hospital and my leg had just been amputated.
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Sorry this took so long...I took a downturn and was away. I couldn't find supporting info for using it for major depression either, but anxiety and physical pain are lessened when I use it. At the stake of my short term memory... I hope that you can find something to help soon. ![]() |
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I was recently hospitalized, and the psychiatrist there had a lot of hope in it. They thought the findings were really promising for treating severe depression.
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That hospitalization was just to stabilize, and since I have been taking 300mg Lithium 200mg Bupropion 2x day 600mg NAC 2x Day 15mg l-methlfolate 50mcg levothyroxine 600mg omega-3s 60mg Cymbalta Vitamin D There is interesting research on NAC s and small doses of lithium. I've been feeling better, if only lacking enthusiasm for life...but rarely any SI ![]() ![]() |
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I too have treatment-resistant depression. Except for 2 deep hospitalized depressions, I've walked around. I can't say that there have been times in the last 30 years that I have not been depressed, even with meds. I have also had ECT twice. ECT worked for about 3 weeks and went away.
I also have ADD and for me it is the Concerta that actually does help with lifiting the depression mood, mood being mood and etc. It doesn't always shift me, but sometimes it does. The most worstest issue for me with this is that my family doesn't believe that depression can be this way. I've done my best educating them. Coping with these denials is very hard on me.
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I forgot to mention I think psychedelic substances have potential...in my personal experience I notice after a good trip I have a noticeable mood lift that is ongoing after the drug effects wear off. I would never advise anyone take such things on a daily basis...but maybe when used sparingly they can have beneficial effects. It would be interesting if there was more research being done on this, especially since physically they are quite safe so for people it could help there would be minimal side effects. But I doubt they are going to star prescribing psilocybin and LSD anytime soon.
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Ketamine is being used but they are studying mushrooms and LSD. I believe John Hopkins is currently studying it. There have been other recent studies that show promise. The neurobiology of psychedelic drugs: implications for the treatment of mood disorders : Abstract : Nature Reviews Neuroscience
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Is ketamine a short-acting thing? as regards psychedelics, is there some way to control how it acts? I had a bad trip more than once (back in the day)....maybe I'm too anxious.
Methamphetamine would really help me...depression, weight, production, oh well. ![]() stephanie |
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I used meth for five years. It's the best anti depressant and causes the worst depression. Over time it messes your dopamine system up so much it causes psychosis. I don't recommend it.
I think I would only try ketamine or psychedelics with a doctor. I've been clean and sober to long to self medicate. I think good trip or bad trip depends very much on your mood at the time. Feeling great and confident....good trip. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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As for strong stimulants(not caffine/nicotine)...have tried adderall, however pretty sure if I started taking it regularly it would more than likely have detrimental effects and increase anxiety.
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Has anyone tried Cymbalta (duloxetine) plus Wellbutrin (bupropion)?
I am tired all the time with the duloxetine. Everything has made me tired. I love coffee, but there isn't enough coffee in the world to undo the tired. |
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Well it's hard to say why it effected them that way...or if it triggered something already present. I've taken it multiple times and have not had any such experience...but have only had a couple hits at once, wouldn't want to go too far over-board since its very potent. Was it a bad experience they had? I could see how a very bad trip could be damaging like could be traumatic...which can have negative effects. But either way though some people get negative effects from what I've read up on and experienced I can see how psychedelic substances could help depression, probably would not help everyone's depression. Either way will be curious to see what sort of results studies on such drugs for mental health issues will provide.
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Yeah I don't believe that pure LSD or shrooms cause lasting effects unless it triggers a pre existing condition that was gonna show up anyway. The problem with LSD is that when you buy it you really don't know what you are getting. Did the guy who made it know what he was doing?
I would definitely stay away from the new designer drugs. No one knows the effects really and they are dangerous. They are not something like lsd or shrooms that has been studied and people have lots of experience with. See this thread- http://forums.psychcentral.com/other...r-opinion.html
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I just read this article on Medscape (I guess I didn't copy correctly to get the link) but it's in the psychiatry section on depression ... about potentially using nitrous oxide !!! Says anti-depressant effect last days long
I don't know about that, but I enjoy the short term effects.... last time my dentist became a long-haired leaping gnome ... still makes me laugh and that was years ago stephanie ![]() |
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OMG me and my friend cleaned his Dad's dentist office when we were teens at night. No one there. What do you think we did after we were done cleaning.....yup. It wasn't hard to figure out how to turn the main bottles on, sit in the chair and crank it up. A couple hours.
Never heard of it for depression. Do you mean ketamine? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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The "paradox" is only a conflict between reality and your feeling of what reality "ought to be." -- Richard Feynman Major Depressive Disorder Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun. Recovering Alcoholic and Addict Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide. Male, 50 Fetzima 80mg Lamictal 100mg Remeron 30mg for sleep Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back |
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Your right. I want in.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/836727 http://www.biologicalpsychiatryjourn...910-X/fulltext Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I have just joined this group also as I knew I needed some support with my depression. My doctor has been playing with my meds but nothing helps. Now Wellbutrin and Cymbalta. My depression is the kind where I hurt so bad that I can't stop crying. I have been depressed for many years but when I was young I used to do drugs to numb my feelings and "feel good" a temporary fix but I think what happened is that for years I numbed myself so much now the emotions and feelings are hitting me so hard I feel sometimes like I can't cope. I don't want to do this any more and I want some treatment that works. Does anyone know if medical marijuana would help and if a doctor would prescribe it or is it just for end of life issues. Anyway I am glad I found people who understand. My friends and family just say breathe and get over it but they don't understand Thank you for listening sad eyed lady
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You may find you need something on top of your anti-depressants...it takes most of us a long time to get just the right "cocktail" and even then it sometimes has to be modified over time. For me, it doesn't get cured, but the edge is taken off where I can deal. Hope it gets easier for you. ![]() stephanie |
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My current cocktail is the best one I have ever been on. I have been at treatment for twenty years.
I have been clean and sober for twenty years but to be honest I have experimented with pot for depression and anxiety. What I found was that it was no good at all for my depression. Some people say it helps. I found that for anxiety it does help but it has to be the right strain. Some strains make me to paranoid. So I have thought about getting a card sometimes but I decided against it. Klonopin works much much better and I don't want to be a chronic smoker. It depends on the state but it is not usually hard at all to get a card. Personally I never worried about it. It is very easy for me to get very good stuff if I were to want to.....not so legally. I don't care if I get it legally or not. Certainly never stopped me in my drug and alcohol using days.
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