[ace333]

I work for a big corporation, I will not say which one. I want know why big corporations treat workers like utter garbage.....this is my situation......I took an entry level job in the billing department, I have been there 8 years, and have not been allowed to "move up" despite the company's "initiative to promote from within"
I have completed countless trainings to move depts or take a lead position but nothing. I do not have a degree, but I have more experience than anyone on my floor. Again I have been there 8 years and I have only received raises that amount to about $1.75 total since my entry rate. I have applied for 20+ positions since being there and it's always a no, but no reason why. I am completely fed up in my current position. Looking outside of this company, I could go back to warehousing and make 5 or 6 dollars more than I do now.......why is this big company not allowing me to move up when everyone else around is allowed to? I feel used and abused by my job. Do all corporate jobs act this way?

[Have Hope]

Oh geez. I could write a book on this, or at least a whole chapter in a book. From what I've learned in corporate America, is that this is very common and typical. I work for a corporation, it's very political, and they say one thing, yet do another. I've also worked for a university -- a very large, ivy league university -- this university was unionized and I found similar glass ceiling problems. I hate to sound pessimistic, but I find this is very common in just about most work environments... unless you can find an honest non-profit that will actually say what they mean and do what they say.. I have found the only way to move up is to leave that company and move up in another company, meaning, taking a higher level job - and going for that higher level job - with another company. Sounds like you're totally qualified to move up. Others will probably have some good insights for you too, but that's my two cents. Wishing you all the best!!!

There's a ton of Tedx talks on why companies fail to promote within -- esp. the large household name companies. Check out TedTalk's website for those talks. They are very informative.

Also, here's 10 reasons why, accord. to this blog, that companies don't promote within:

The Top 10 Reasons Companies Fail at Promoting from Within

Another blog's 7 reasons why companies don't promote within:

7 Dark Reasons Why Good Workers Don't Get Promoted

I fit all 7 reasons why when I worked in the call center for a large online company. My friend at the time got me the referral after she was promoted out of the call center to the job she's had for 15 years now. I couldn't get out of the call center after 2 years, for all 7 reasons mentioned in the second blog link here. So, I was fired. Pfft.

Also, toxic leadership is another reason people who are qualified for promotions won't get promoted. Toxic leaders will keep people trapped in their roles, because they need the person's skills and/or they don't like the employee. I hate corporate America for a gazillion reasons for the internal politics, toxic work environment, backstabbing coworkers who sabotage the coworkers they view as competition, toxic leaderships, etc.

Show me a healthy work environment and I guarantee you it is NOT in America unless it's a foreign company or in a foreign country. America has the worst track record of toxic work environments in the entire world. And I don't see that changing any time soon. I wish I was wrong, but if I had the money, I'd leave America and move to Europe or Asia.

Originally Posted by Have Hope

Oh geez. I could write a book on this, or at least a whole chapter in a book. From what I've learned in corporate America, is that this is very common and typical. I work for a corporation, it's very political, and they say one thing, yet do another. I've also worked for a university -- a very large, ivy league university -- this university was unionized and I found similar glass ceiling problems. I hate to sound pessimistic, but I find this is very common in just about most work environments... unless you can find an honest non-profit that will actually say what they mean and do what they say.. I have found the only way to move up is to leave that company and move up in another company, meaning, taking a higher level job - and going for that higher level job - with another company. Sounds like you're totally qualified to move up. Others will probably have some good insights for you too, but that's my two cents. Wishing you all the best!!!

I grew up in an academic family with parents who worked in academia. I grew up listening to my parents' horror stories of how their colleagues would sabotage each other, or try to sabotage my parents. The university where they worked ended up forcefully retiring my mother without giving her warning, b/c a younger guy wanted her job. She'd been at her job there for 30 years.

Then one day she was told "this is your last day, here's your severance." Disgusting. Universities are notoriously political and undermine their teaching faculty, and give all the power to administration which is full of morally corrupt individuals. Just my personal experience.

I was sabotaged as a grad student by my dept. chair in my previous grad school program. So, I detest academic environments as potential workplaces. Even if you can get a job at a university, you have to watch your back literally all the time.

[seesaw]

Originally Posted by Have Hope

Oh geez. I could write a book on this, or at least a whole chapter in a book. From what I've learned in corporate America, is that this is very common and typical. I work for a corporation, it's very political, and they say one thing, yet do another. I've also worked for a university -- a very large, ivy league university -- this university was unionized and I found similar glass ceiling problems. I hate to sound pessimistic, but I find this is very common in just about most work environments... unless you can find an honest non-profit that will actually say what they mean and do what they say.. I have found the only way to move up is to leave that company and move up in another company, meaning, taking a higher level job - and going for that higher level job - with another company. Sounds like you're totally qualified to move up. Others will probably have some good insights for you too, but that's my two cents. Wishing you all the best!!!

Nonprofits are just as bad about not promoting from within. Fyi. It has nothing to do with tax structure but with organizational leadership.

[Have Hope]

Originally Posted by seesaw

Nonprofits are just as bad about not promoting from within. Fyi. It has nothing to do with tax structure but with organizational leadership.

Yeah... And in my experience, most organizational leadership SUCKS. I've seen many environments that truly just suck.

[Have Hope]

Originally Posted by StreetcarBlanche

I grew up in an academic family with parents who worked in academia. I grew up listening to my parents' horror stories of how their colleagues would sabotage each other, or try to sabotage my parents. The university where they worked ended up forcefully retiring my mother without giving her warning, b/c a younger guy wanted her job. She'd been at her job there for 30 years.

Then one day she was told "this is your last day, here's your severance." Disgusting. Universities are notoriously political and undermine their teaching faculty, and give all the power to administration which is full of morally corrupt individuals. Just my personal experience.

I was sabotaged as a grad student by my dept. chair in my previous grad school program. So, I detest academic environments as potential workplaces. Even if you can get a job at a university, you have to watch your back literally all the time.

I'm beginning to think they are ALL corrupt. I've never seen a place that isn't. And i've been alive a while. Maybe work just sucks.

Oops that's my pessimism coming into play, and my desire to win the lottery and never have to work again, lol.

Originally Posted by Have Hope

I'm beginning to think they are ALL corrupt. I've never seen a place that isn't. And i've been alive a while. Maybe work just sucks.

Oops that's my pessimism coming into play, and my desire to win the lottery and never have to work again, lol.

Lol! I hope we all win the lottery and can move to the Netherlands and live happily ever after.

Just reminded me of an example of sabotage at two office jobs I experienced this year. Both were front desk roles. When its decided that you need to be fired, a "file" is created with grievances or examples of incompetence on you. So, my first front desk role, the outgoing mail to detached offices was 90% of the job. The previous front desk gal was 20 years ago and I knew I was on my way out, when she started accusing me of sending the detached mail out to the wrong offices, without ever providing a shred of proof. Or, she'd accuse me of putting mail in the wrong mailboxes, or the compliance mail in the wrong mail boxes. Again, without any proof. Just telling me I was doing the mail wrong. So, that job ended. Then, this recent temp job I had, the same pattern emerged with the director of accounting. Previously, they had been without a receptionist for 6 months. Then, I was hired as a temp. I asked several people to provide me with emailed lists of names of companies of mail they did not want me to open. Well, the week before I was let go, the director of accounting started accusing me of opening mail I wasn't supposed to (yet she never showed me the mail or mentioned the name of the mail I "opened" incorrectly). She also said I was putting her mail in the wrong mail box (again, a total lie, b/c her mail had her name on it).

This is a perfect example of the dysfunctional behaviors that toxic leaders use to deceive, intimidate, coerce, or unfairly punish to get what they want for themselves. Both of my toxic leaders wanted me out of the front desk role, so they made up the same lies about me not doing the mail correctly as a reason to fire me. Asinine to be sure, but it worked as I was fired from both roles.

[ace333]

Trust me I wish I could afford to move out of this garbage country, but I cant for various reasons. I have another example that has recently happened.... in my dept there is a 10 page process doc we have to follow, being here so long I know it by heart. So tell me why when my leader came to me stating the third party quality review came back to say I had done something wrong, walked my lead through exactly what/why i did things the right way, which she agreed i was right.....was still counted as wrong against me ????? Stuff like this all the time, but they wont let me move