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I think sometimes the worst thing is that dying doesn't always seem like the worst thing. It should seem like it, but in reality it just comes far down the list of what we want to, but not at the bottom where it should be. There are many things that might scare us more. I really don't believe much in being scared straight from drugs, because every drug user already knows that drugs are harmful and can be lethal.

Hopefully the treatment providers know some stuff that might really help. For sure, I don't think this is the first time they are not told the whole truth. Maybe try them and see if they can handle how things really are. I think most drug users actually do have mental health issues of some kind, so they shouldn't be surprised by that. Hopefully they can be more helpful if they know the truth and some of your underlying thoughts. I wouldn't just say just trust them, because some treatment providers don't hold up, but those who do can sometimes help.

As for meth being heroin, I have to shake my head once again. Of course you're correct. Meth is an amphetamine, a man made upper which role it was to mimic the effects of uppers growing, like cocaine. Heroin is plant based, just like all opioids that are not synthetic, like made in a lab. As for oxycodone that is in Percocet, it is somewhere in between plant based and synthetic. Meth and heroin are two very separate types of drugs but you knew that already. I think someone is just having fun by obnoxiously confuse us with false information.

As I heard it, heroin is more common now that there are more restrictions on prescribed opioids. That sounds pretty scary for everyone involved, that it has become easier to find. I know the good feeling from weaker opioids that I had for pain so I can imagine how terribly easy it must be to be stuck on opioids... but maybe one can sort of forget how good it felt, push it out of one's mind... I'm trying this myself as I do crave the weak opioid pain pill I had for a while.

For me there are some natural highs but they only work if I feel somewhat decent. So struggling up to that level... whew. Hopefully doable.

Take care, all you guys.

It made me sad to read what you said,that dying doesn't always seem like the worst thing and there are many things that scare you more.

IDK if you were referring to me or not but I wasn't trying to scare anyone straight,just telling it like it is.My child is a heroin addict,I have watched him struggle for many years.If it wasn't for Narcan he wouldn't be here right now.So of course if someone is saying they do heroin sometimes I'm going to do my best to pursuade them not to before they do become addicted.If a person can go without it then they're obviously not addicted.My son can't go without it and will do whatever he has to in order to get it,he will do anything to keep from being dope sick.I don't want anyone else to go through that,especially someone that's using it occasionally just because they 'like' it.

Oh,and I agree that meth and heroin are not the same thing.I took what amandalouise was saying as meaning they're both highly addictive.But I could have misunderstood.

OK, someone here at some point was itching (I'm not the only one!), And I just want to pop in to mention that I've had good results also with Aveeno anti itch cream. If that's not good, try a steroid cream. I'm not at home now and I can't tell you what the packaging says about the creams but there are a lot of these in the pharmacies. Good luck.

yes they (heroin and meth) are two different things but like I stated the ingredients for both are used in meth\heroin speed balls. which makes them one drug...

think of it like mixing the ingredients for a peanutbutter cookie and a chocolate chip cookie.. the result is the two cookies become one new cookie.

with speedballing two different drugs are mixed to create one thing, its not like you can pull a part the meth ingredients and the heroin ingredients once they are refined and mixed together.

its ok if you dont believe there is such a thing... I didnt either when my sibling was into drugs...

but if you type in a search bar..... what is a meth heroin speedball you will get all kinds of factual information about it.

Ah,I get what you're saying now.Thanks for explaining amandalouise.

i know about speed balling...

i have problems, i grew up in this stuff... around alcohol, coke, crack, weed, speed...

i dont know how to live

i dont want to be like this, it makes me feel nauseous thinking about how my life is

but its the only way i know, its how i have survived my whole life, all the pain, all the strife

im at a point where i doint want to live anymore and inside im scared of what i am going to do, i dont really want to die but i dont know how anything can get better so i just try to keep it all blocked out but as long as im sober its harder to just block it out

being intoxicated i can just be someone else and have a different life, i forget about all the pain and ****, i can laugh and play and people like to be around me and thats something i've never had

im still sober... im getting depressed... i just cant deal with my problems in life...
tired of feeling suicidal feelings

im just really confused
i just feel really confused
i have been really confused all of my life, going through everything i have been through

im sick of it

i just want to feel alive and part of the world like a normal person seems to be

i can take an upper and connect with others
or take a downer and disconnect more so i dont feel or think about it..

being sober leaves me open to attack from the inside...

urgh...

its just getting worse because now i just want to turn it off the easy way... im tired.. and sick of it all... and my brain is also agreeing and just craving the things that can make it all go away... if only for a moment...

i don't know what has happen to me.. but my life is really confusing right now as i dont know who i am and am playing many different roles... i dont even know what are my true feelings or thoughts, i dont feel connected to the body or world and am distanced from everyone

i just try not to think about it and ignore everything and make it all go away because i cant handle anymore..

Maybe what you might need to do is face everything you've been through in therapy instead of trying to run from it?It doesn't go away and will haunt you until you do.

i was in therapy
things got worse..
and she couldnt help me..
dont think i can go through it all again..

Well it normally does get worse before it gets better,especially if you're working through hard things and emotions you've kept stuffed down inside.It takes a long time to work through the past and get to the other side of it.

I think I remember something about you going to a specialist or something?Whatever happened with that?There are other therapists out there that can help if you're ready and willing to put in the work.

But,I won't try to push that or harp on it,I think you've already decided you're just going to continue as you are and thinking you're hopeless and helpless so I will let you continue to do your thing without butting in anymore.I hope wishing things will change on their own without having to do any work or make any changes works out for you.

I read 'the happiness trap'. it changed my life!