Compassion for a sociopath?

Of course it's all your fault. To a psychopath or sociopath, nothing is EVER their fault.

It's their histrionic ex who just doesn't understand them and accuses them of "abuse", the friend who "betrayed" their trust, their parents who ruined their lives before it even began, the people who "never told them the truth when it could have made a difference", and so on. I could list off this **** all day.

I appreciate that. It's kind of crazy that my ex husband is my worst enemy. I can't talk to him about our daughter. That's the most insane thing. He's the one that wanted to have a child. I was like no not before marriage. Now he's abandoned ship because I won't be his hot dog bun. that's the last school email I call him about, and the next time she drops her phone in the toilet? He can get all mad and call me. Geez.

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Do you make a distinction between a psychopath and a sociopath? Again, I just want to clear that up to reduce the chances of miscommunication. Personally, I differentiate the two but I know not everyone does.

I have a stalker on my hands right now that's an ex friend of mine, she's a full blown primary psychopath and she just refuses to let it go. It makes me laugh because I know why she won't let it go. It's because I moved in with her and then moved out two months later. That's how long I could stand being around her and her malignant narcissist for a "wife". I left for a lot of reasons, and I won't get into all of it in public, but still... she thought she had me in her clutches and that I'd never leave her. She got cocky, and she lost the game spectacularly because of it.

She fooled and still fools a lot of people. But the way she chose to lie is pretty poorly thought out in my opinion because once her lies are discovered, she cannot weave lies to cover up the exposure. She was forced to tell me the truth for a few reasons, and when she did I wasn't surprised.

But of course, according to her I'm the liar and she's a ray of light that always tells the truth. When really, the fact of it is, we were both playing a game and both of us are equally guilty of lying.

Yeah, it's a mind **** for sure when someone who's supposed to love you unto death is your worst enemy.

It sounds like he liked the family idea for awhile and then grew bored and went back to wanting the basics: to **** all night because hey what are spouses for?

I do, however this book lists narcissists and sociopaths under the psychopath heading. It's my mom who I think may have some red flags of a psychopath which I wanted to post about here. I already learned she's a narcissist but she takes it up a notch.

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Lol! He was content to live together and have a kid and I was like no we need to get married first. It was his relapse that triggered the downward spiral. It's a mess. I guess if I get another email from the school I feel he should know about I could post in the relationships and communication board. I did that regarding my abusive brother's text last night and it was helpful.

My choice of a sociopathic husband validates the reality abuse and narcissism in my family unfortunately and of course my mom always liked him. My dad did not. He's the healthiest out of all them. At least I can talk openly with him about his narcissism. He knows he's caustic and difficult . He's self aware.

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My post on your other thread:

I've read Psychopath Free, and although I found it to be very validating, I don't believe it contains much academic writing. It's just not that kind of book. I might be mistaken, but I don't believe Jackson MacKenzie has any credentials either.

While those three groups of people do have a lot in common, there's also distinct differences. I never fully "fit" the NPD diagnosis because of my inner motivations for showing some of the criteria, and I never fully "fit" primary psychopathy because I have too much emotional depth and I'm capable of remorse(although it's a rare occurrence.) Calling me a Sociopath is probably the most accurate label for me when it comes right down to it.

I've known a few full blown psychopaths, a handful of narcissists, and only one other sociopath to my knowledge. I know the "red flags" for psychopathy very well so if you do want to discuss your mother I don't have any problem reading and giving you my opinion.

I read that. I'll read the book and go from there.

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Ok I will post a red flag shortly. I know the book's not academic but it's a start and something is better then nothing in my opinion. I had a tendency towards narcissism but not sociopathy or psychopathy.

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Regardless of the personality disorder, I have been able to always get along with the self-aware ones.

Psychopathy, sociopathy, and narcissism all run heavily in my family.

Oh boy, for me it's narcissism, possibly psychopathy, and looks like borderline in mine.

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Sometimes valuable information isn't "academic". Some of the most valuable things I've learned about these disorders didn't come from academic literature about it.

My narcissism, the more I think about it, the more it seems like the reality of it is that NPD was simply another mask that I wore. A mask that had truth to it, yes, but still a mask at the end of the day.

That's good to know. I read what's recommended , you know? I'll make my judgment after I attempt to read it.

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Yes, I don't like to knock something until I've tried it.

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Hi Leomama, compassion for a person with ASPD is pointless, they have no empathy so he will not care what you think. My advice is try to educate your daughter in what to expect from her father. I have APSD and a son, but I have no feelings regarding him at all, he's just another human and generally I have nothing but contempt for them all. Your ex partner will not change, treat him as a dangerous animal i.e. with extreme care, or he will continue to run rings around you. Do not let him manipulate you or your daughter, don't trust his motivations because he does not think like you. Question everything he tells you. If he starts acting normal run like hell, there will be an ulterior motive.

Congratulations you just answered for everyone why your son has aspd it's no fault of your own for being so callous and heartless. You sure you don't have aspd?