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Old Mar 09, 2016, 08:23 PM
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yep.. well i was diagnosed at last evaluation with a new psychologist at a hospital...

was basicly because they had mis-diagnosed me with bipolar disorder... but i knew i wasn't bipolar so wanted the second, or third.. or whatever opinion it was - i cant remember :/


did full psychological assessment... iq tests... learning disorders... mental disorders...


but im complicated so its really hard to know for me personally whats going on in my brain.. i just gotta try to take their word for it ...


he said that for me it seems i have no short term memory, problems with retention... my memory is terrible... i scored really bad on that section apparently... ie: having a conversation and stop mid-sentence not remembering what i was saying or just forgetting i was having a conversation all together


i have other symptoms but by far the memory is something that concerns me - would think maybe i have a brain tumor that is causing me to forget everything... but i guess its just adhd...

i mean combined with the anxiety and depression im sure makes it worse :/


im fairly intelligent as well so i know that intelligence can make it look like you are normal - just because you're scanning faster than others and coming up with coping skills to get through the challenges...

also if you have other disorders it can mask or overlap the adhd and make it difficult to diagnose...



i completely understand your frustration


but maybe you could do the type of assessment i did and get a complete diagnosis - it just a little expensive... cost me $1,700... but i dont have any insurance or coverage/help with that stuff currently...


they are worried more about my depression and anxiety though than the adhd because the depression is killing me


i've just tried so many other medications i would like to try adhd medication because like you said it seems like the adhd cycle might be fueling the depression and anxiety sometimes...

read many stories about people suffering with anxiety and depression and later be diagnosed with adhd and treated and the depression/anxiety clearing up...


would like to see if that works for me too


keep trying... stay strong...

Hello. Thanks for the wonderful response. I am doing the assessment you are talking about at the moment. Mine costed 3k though. I finished the second session. The last one is next Saturday. Apparently it's considered the "fun stuff". I don't know. I can't wait to hear the results from the testing. My memory is... Idk. I pretty much failed a section today. I know that for sure.

Yes, I am also intelligent. Maybe it'll say I'm at a gifted level, I don't know. I just want to hear the results.

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Old Mar 10, 2016, 01:09 PM
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glad you are getting the test
hopefully it will explain whats really going on - the psychologist i talked to seemed really confident in the results for me... feel much better accepting his diagnosis than the last few 15 min evaluations i had with pdoc (especially that bipolar dx)

when i was in school i was in advanced classes... was usually a straight a student but would get the random D or C because of ... well who knows - guess i just wasnt paying attention or something...

but because of the other things i have going on i ended up screwing up - grades went from As to Ds and i dropped out because i was overwhelmed... tried homeschooling for some years but lost motivation on that too

kind of wished that i could of gotten help as a kid so that maybe i wouldn't of made so many... mistakes i guess...

guess the main thing to keep in mind is that it can be difficult to diagnos ADHD...
i was reading about it the other day, i think they called it an "diagnosis of exclusion" meaning that they go through the list and try to see if it is anything else before diagnosing adhd - and if they cant pin it on something else directly then you get the diagnosis?

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A diagnosis of exclusion (per exclusionem) is a diagnosis of a medical condition reached by a process of elimination, which may be necessary if presence cannot be established with complete confidence from history, examination or testing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnosis_of_exclusion

so hopefully this complete evaluation will narrow it down and pinpoint exactly whats going on...

he diagnosed me with somatization disorder and i had never even heard of that before :/ so maybe even if its not adhd - maybe can help you find some relief
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Old Mar 10, 2016, 07:24 PM
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glad you are getting the test
hopefully it will explain whats really going on - the psychologist i talked to seemed really confident in the results for me... feel much better accepting his diagnosis than the last few 15 min evaluations i had with pdoc (especially that bipolar dx)

when i was in school i was in advanced classes... was usually a straight a student but would get the random D or C because of ... well who knows - guess i just wasnt paying attention or something...

but because of the other things i have going on i ended up screwing up - grades went from As to Ds and i dropped out because i was overwhelmed... tried homeschooling for some years but lost motivation on that too

kind of wished that i could of gotten help as a kid so that maybe i wouldn't of made so many... mistakes i guess...

guess the main thing to keep in mind is that it can be difficult to diagnos ADHD...
i was reading about it the other day, i think they called it an "diagnosis of exclusion" meaning that they go through the list and try to see if it is anything else before diagnosing adhd - and if they cant pin it on something else directly then you get the diagnosis?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnosis_of_exclusion

so hopefully this complete evaluation will narrow it down and pinpoint exactly whats going on...

he diagnosed me with somatization disorder and i had never even heard of that before :/ so maybe even if its not adhd - maybe can help you find some relief

Thanks for the reply My high intelligence is the barrier between AD/H and AD/HD. I know I get directed by anxiety a lot. But I know that random things distract me too. I know I have no motivation to do work. I can't concentrate. I have bad time management and organization. And I hope my assessment does well. I hope I don't have to wait a month for the results... I'm so worried about it.

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Old Mar 11, 2016, 02:43 AM
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hmm lemme remember...
i had my testing jan 5 i think and had to wait till feb 11 to get the results :/

but i think that may of been because he's a busy doc...?
maybe you get yours faster

anxiety and depression distract me too but i can tell when the adhd is doing its thing... specially since i was diagnosed with it and ive been trying to pay attention...

the psychologist said they would probably try to get my depression and anxiety under control first before treating the adhd though - i was just hoping to get back on valium and try the adhd meds out cause that may help me more than any of the other medications i've tried

really wishing you good luck mate!
try to distract yourself and take your mind off it while you wait, it will drive you crazy for sure - drove me crazy
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Old Mar 22, 2016, 03:45 PM
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I have the same problem. ADD, ADHD, etc makes it very hard to go through life.
What worked for me is: DONT work harder. I had sluggish cognitive tempo for a recent six months, and recently I was feeling restless once again and I workedmy way out of my "break?" And now I find school and life much easier personally. Try to take an iq test I took some of those to get my brain active again.
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I'm glad socialized healthcare paid my tests. But also when done, I wish I had someone who actually cared about ADD afterwards... but they are so out of staff all the time, just waiting to get tested took 2 years.

I've been thinking about intelligence and ADD vs ADHD, and I just think those with ADD are somewhat easier to test, that is why they might score higher in IQ. If they even do.

The term IQ is a bit iffy because it actually does measure focus and speed as well. I'm not fond of working with a lot of time pressure, and half way through a classic IQ test my brain refuses to work anymore, because of boredom. Call it distraction if you like.

I'm not sure if I'm getting dumber each year (you usually have the same IQ through life, right?) but I've actually "lost" almost 40 IQ points from my best to now. Is it even possible, or is it ADD getting "worse" because of this and that or what?

What is actually horrible to think about, is that the dumber version of myself has a MUCH easier time communicating with normal people. I really don't want to even think of what that really means...
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Old Mar 23, 2016, 03:10 PM
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I have the same problem. ADD, ADHD, etc makes it very hard to go through life.
What worked for me is: DONT work harder. I had sluggish cognitive tempo for a recent six months, and recently I was feeling restless once again and I workedmy way out of my "break?" And now I find school and life much easier personally. Try to take an iq test I took some of those to get my brain active again.
Thank you. I am trying to work and concentrate. I'm waiting for results from my assessment now to see what's kinda going on in my head. Maybe they'll see my inattentive side.

I know I am really smart. My IQ is high. But I understand more about what she means. I am doing worse in school now than ever before. I wish I can improve.

Thanks for the response .
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Old Mar 23, 2016, 11:56 PM
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how was the test for you?
i had a migraine afterwards....

one of the things i've noticed that i think is the adhd is that i'll be reading and when its something that really doesnt interest me but something i need to read i will trail off in some other thought completely irrelevant while reading, but continue to read im just not taking anthing in, so when i realize im not paying attention i have to snap myself back to the paragraph and scan backwards to the last part i remember reading and start over... this is super frustrating

but when its something that im interseted in, i read vividly... hyperfocus is great but its too bad it only works on things that interest us... i wish i could turn it on when i wanted

i cant remember.. you said it was like the test i took right? so its going to check you for other things as well, even asp right?

my test revealed that i have alot of avpd traits for example...

do you know how long you have to wait?
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Old Mar 24, 2016, 12:09 AM
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I'm not sure if I'm getting dumber each year (you usually have the same IQ through life, right?) but I've actually "lost" almost 40 IQ points from my best to now. Is it even possible, or is it ADD getting "worse" because of this and that or what?

What is actually horrible to think about, is that the dumber version of myself has a MUCH easier time communicating with normal people. I really don't want to even think of what that really means...
i tried looking it up and seems like the IQ should remain relatively the same until older age starts taking a toll... or you abuse alcohol and drugs... or depression and other mental illness clouds your mind...
but im not a professional so i dont know if thats true?

i think that somethings can make the adhd symptoms "act up" but i cant say that for sure either...

the psychologist didnt mention my IQ score, he just said my IQ was fine...
i have the papers though and it mentions some things about my IQ but just says to see appenix I but i dont have that? i guess its on his medical records and not in this report... maybe i will call him and ask him what my score was i would like to know!

can one of you tell me what these mean?
"the patient was administered the wechsler adult intelligence scale - IV. see appendix I (in media section of this EMR) for full breakdown of IQ scores. there was no clinically significant difference between his low average range working memory index score of 83 (13th %ile). and his low average range processing speed index score of 81(10th %ile). his verbal comprehension index score of 105 (63rd %ile) was within normal range. his perceptual reasoning index score of 96(39th%ile) was also within the normal range. this pattern of performance is not indicative of a patient who is at increased risk for day to day problems with working memory and/or processing speed. verbal comprehension and perceptual reasoning abilites are normal. working memory and processing speed (while normal) are lower than expected based on his performance on a task assessing premorbid functioning levels"

one thing that it does say is this
"The patient was administered the buschke selective reminding test and his basic learning and memory (102/144) was normal. in this regard, his consistency related tlong term retrieval was impaired (40/144), especially when compared to his normal range long term storage (98/144). his discrepancy score (+58) is clinically significant and is suggestive of a high level cognitive organization problem and/or high level attention concern"

what the heckk does that mean !
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I know WAIS actually spits out an IQ number at the end, but test staff usually do not say. Although there are certain things they say which can hint towards your IQ, like if they say "this" it is in this range and "that" it is in that range. I don't have info anymore of the wording though. But it exists.
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how was the test for you?
i had a migraine afterwards....

one of the things i've noticed that i think is the adhd is that i'll be reading and when its something that really doesnt interest me but something i need to read i will trail off in some other thought completely irrelevant while reading, but continue to read im just not taking anthing in, so when i realize im not paying attention i have to snap myself back to the paragraph and scan backwards to the last part i remember reading and start over... this is super frustrating

but when its something that im interseted in, i read vividly... hyperfocus is great but its too bad it only works on things that interest us... i wish i could turn it on when i wanted

i cant remember.. you said it was like the test i took right? so its going to check you for other things as well, even asp right?

my test revealed that i have alot of avpd traits for example...

do you know how long you have to wait?
Hello. I did all the testing. Well, I thought I did. I need to go back because parts were inconclusive. So I need to do more tests to figure out why and what is happening.

The psychologist looked at ASD and she went over the criteria for that along with a new MI called social communication disorder. So I was waiting for results.

It said that I needed to wait 4-6 weeks, but I have waited and need to go back and do more tests and... Ugh. I wish I could find the results soon.
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