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Old Aug 11, 2011, 11:12 AM
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I still say it’s the unconscious thought/perception of a situation that brings either a positive or a negative response/feeling.


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Old Aug 15, 2011, 03:36 AM
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I don't think it matters coz it all happens so quick, what is more important is which happens last - how to stop it....
Still... sometimes bad thoughts or bad situations set me off, othertimes my moods are crazy without the thoughts, I think part of the Bipolar chemistry mess up makes our feelings messed up even if our thoughts are ok.....
How to stop it - bit of both - meds for the feelings and CBT for the thoughts....
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Old Aug 16, 2011, 08:37 AM
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I don't think it matters coz it all happens so quick, what is more important is which happens last - how to stop it....
Still... sometimes bad thoughts or bad situations set me off, othertimes my moods are crazy without the thoughts, I think part of the Bipolar chemistry mess up makes our feelings messed up even if our thoughts are ok.....
How to stop it - bit of both - meds for the feelings and CBT for the thoughts....
Now you've got me thinking again. Maybe it is a bit of both for Bipolar and other disorders. Thanks for the input!
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Old Aug 16, 2011, 01:01 PM
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I personally believe its the feeling that leads to the thought that then reinforces the feeling, though it is also possible that the conscious thought can trigger the feeling out of nowhere. Often I will get the feeling of depression first, and then the thoughts about why I might be feeling depressed and what could be causing it, but the more I think about the reasons why I would (should?) be depressed, the more depressed I get.

On the same note, I was feeling fine for much of the day and then thinking about a situation in my life and the possible outcomes has begun to create a depressive feeling that the thoughts are reinforcing. I do agree that, in the end, its how we respond to both that matters. Maybe they are so intertwined that either could be a trigger for the other, but its our conscious selves who must deal with the end result. Meds and CBT seem to work really well together for some when each alone has failed in the past, so it seems that regardless of which comes first, addressing both is the answer for actually dealing with them.
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