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Old Mar 28, 2014, 11:56 PM
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And don't get me wrong. If you are feeling suicidal please do not hesitate to get help immediately!!!! I didn't read that in your post, but I don't want to make assumptions. I'm sure your experience will be much smoother bc it's not a medical hospital rather a psychiatric hospital. The one I went to last year that was a psych hospital was entirely different. I just went into a private room for intake. All the ones I've been in do not allow strings like on hoodies or yoga pants, shoe laces, underwire bras, toiletries and I'd leave all expensive propery at home.

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I have been in three different psych hospitals since I was diagnosed in 2000. They were all different in what they offered. Have you tried or considered intensive outpatient group therapy? I went to a program and it was helpful for me to receive support and they were able to assess my stability and let my doctor know if I needed to return to inpatient for awhile.
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I have been in three different psych hospitals since I was diagnosed in 2000. They were all different in what they offered. Have you tried or considered intensive outpatient group therapy? I went to a program and it was helpful for me to receive support and they were able to assess my stability and let my doctor know if I needed to return to inpatient for awhile.
Everything I've looked into they say "wait, we're all booked up". Very encouraging. I don't like hospitals but I think I have to do something. I think intensive outpatient will be in the cards for me for a while after they, hopefully, get something working that will stabilize me. I want to try going back to meds that worked before and I can't wait till April 18.
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Tick tock. 6 more hours.
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I don't understand why you have to wait. Is it a matter of who will accept your insurance?
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Old Mar 29, 2014, 02:13 AM
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It's a matter of the private and the public institutions being "Booked up".
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If you have suicidal thoughts, go to the ER and have them ask fore a psychiatric consult. Explain your worries and tell them you are definitely thinking of suicide. They will send you upstairs for the intake. I do not think they will send away a possible suicide case, just out of the fear of the liability involved. Then I think they will keep you under observation overnight. A doctor will talk to you before releasing you. At least you will have "your foot in the door" so to speak.

Isn't there a public crises center? That would be another option. Do not call them. Just go there! I hope you will follow through with this.
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I've had this planned out for a while now...just keep trying to postpone it from fear. Mom is on the way. They don't allow computers inpatient here so I won't be around for who knows but I'll be thinking of all of you and hope the best for you.
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Old Mar 29, 2014, 01:28 PM
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Apparently it was unrealistic to even hope to go to inpatient for the reasons I wanted to. They turned me away. Said contact my facility and try to get in earlier. FML
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I'm sorry hbomb, though I suspected that might be the case. Just remember that if you end up feeling suicidal they WILL admit you if you have a plan and a way to execute it...fwiw...otherwise please try to hang on until your appointment. It's already one day closer.
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Old Mar 29, 2014, 01:39 PM
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On Monday I will be calling and trying to get something worked out with my facility. I just got insurance and they have been seeing me as indigent, so maybe things might move faster with the insurance as a pawn. They also gave me info on an intensive outpatient program that I am going to look into. My motivation sucks though so hopefully my friends can help me get to my appts.

Thanks for all the support and I'll be around apparently!
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Old Mar 29, 2014, 01:51 PM
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IOP is an excellent alternative to hospital! If you're feeling safe enough but still very depressed, IOP can really help. You'll get med monitoring and group and individual therapy. I was in IOP from sept 1 through dec 7 and it really, really helped me transition back to work from the crazy manic episode I had in august. I never would have been able to get trough work without the IOP on my side.
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I'm also not surprised they turned you away, unfortunately. Where I am from you can't really plan to send yourself to inpatient, admissions are done because of crisis and 99% of the time they are involuntary. I'm in Canada though, so there are no insurance issues since all health care is publicly funded, so it might be quite different in the US. What we have where I live is a house where you can voluntarily check yourself into, which has doctors and nurses, but it is less intense and structured than a hospital, and it's all voluntary so you can leave whenever you want. It's considered a step down from hospital. The admissions are only done via the community mental health teams or out of the hospital inpatient units. It's a good option. I don't know if you have something like that, but it might be a better fit than hospital.
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Old Mar 29, 2014, 05:57 PM
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They may have something. I'm checking into it on Monday. Had a pretty big fight with my ex today about his lack of support. Not really suprised and I feel worse. Guess I should have just let it be.
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Yeah for the reasons you put in this thread Im not surprised they turned you away either. Sounded like what you needed was more a holiday or rehab type thing than hospital admission.

Last day for me. Funny how they wouldnt let me go out yesterday and Im still not allowed glass or plastic bags in my room but I'll be going home today to a house full of knives, glass and plastic bags.. Oh and hot water, shock horror I will have boiling water from a kettle. Maybe even HOT soup!!

You still gotta deal with real life and cope on your own when you get out, past crisis admissions there is not much they can really help with. Unless you are totally clueless about mental health, then the groups may help, I met some really dopey people in group, they didnt have a clue about the depression or anxiety cycles or anything they "learned". To me all of that stuff is common knowledge when you have a mental illness. I guess not everyone is as clued in on that stuff.

IOP if they offer it might be great for you, who knows. Hope they can do something for you.
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I think IOP was helpful for me because of process group. The mental health education groups were not very useful as I had heard/done it all before but being able to talk and gt feedback from other people really helped me.

Hospital groups were hit or miss. They COULD be helpful but sometimes it was just rehashing old stuff. Too bad I lost my grounds privileges if I didn't go lol.
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Sorry they turned you away.

I'm in Canada too and unless you can make a really good case for being unsafe they will turn you away. I had a really bad experience where I took myself to the emergency room and they didn't believe me and convinced me to go home. The next day I still wanted to kill myself, so I went back. This time they admitted me, but they treated me really poorly, labelled me as manipulative, and I didn't get any help. They decided I was BPD, and sent me to a therapist who only dealt with borderline clients. The therapist said I was definitely not BPD and dumped me, because she only worked with borderline clients.

After all that trouble though, since I had no help and no one was managing my meds, I ended up psychotic and the school psychiatrist sent me to a psychosis program where I am now with the best psychiatrist I've ever worked with. If I need to go to the hospital, I go through her and I never get turned away. And if I'm in crisis and don't have an appointment for a while, she alerts the mobile crisis unit in my city so that they know who I am and my diagnosis and that I'm in crisis, and if I need to go to the hospital I can call them.

I don't know if you have anything like this, but my city also has a crisis house - it's non-medical, no doctors or nurses, but it's 24 hours a day staffed with experienced counsellors and you stay for 3-5 days and work on goals. I did that last year and it was incredibly helpful.
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I'm so sorry you didn't get inpatient. That is a headache, but it's better than being held against your will. The outpatient I did was strictly for contact with a pdoc and med management. They taught dialect behavior modification I think. Anyway it was for borderline personality disorder which is the least of my problems. You should have much better luck going in on a week day when they have more staff. Also, you'll be in control of going to a place that will take your insurance. ♥

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Sorry they turned you away.

I'm in Canada too and unless you can make a really good case for being unsafe they will turn you away. I had a really bad experience where I took myself to the emergency room and they didn't believe me and convinced me to go home. The next day I still wanted to kill myself, so I went back. This time they admitted me, but they treated me really poorly, labelled me as manipulative, and I didn't get any help. They decided I was BPD, and sent me to a therapist who only dealt with borderline clients. The therapist said I was definitely not BPD and dumped me, because she only worked with borderline clients.

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I don't know if you have anything like this, but my city also has a crisis house - it's non-medical, no doctors or nurses, but it's 24 hours a day staffed with experienced counsellors and you stay for 3-5 days and work on goals. I did that last year and it was incredibly helpful.
Good advice!

I am very surprised the OP was turned away if they posed themselves as a suicide risk. This is a lawsuite happy country. Liability is always a big concern among independent healthcare professionals and businesses. But then if they are a government concern, they probably do not have to do anything. I went to a private hospital that my tdoc sent me to. She even told me what to say to them. It worked. I was in there for a month.

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PS: This cost me $100,000. I had them bill the company I worked for. They ended up paying the bill. But when I went in, I was not expecting anything.
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Old Mar 29, 2014, 09:14 PM
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Motivation has been a huge factor lately, so that was part of the reason why I wanted to have the hospital take care of me for a while. I just want to feel like me again. Huge emotional blowout today too and I feel like complete garbage. I want to be normal!!!!!!
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On a good note, I know that the hospital would have been huge $$ so I guess I avoided a bill I can't afford?
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So now that I have insurance, I apparently have access to another "side" of the treatment facility that I didn't before. This one doesn't accept subsidies and is full pay, or insurance only. Well they can get me in April 9 and she said that I would be on a list for cancellations where there is only one person ahead of me.

Although April 9th is still a long ways away, it's more than a week closer than that the 18th. So that's good news. Still feeling bleak, but i keep reminding myself it's not me, it's the depression.
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April 9th is not too far away; I'm glad you're finally getting help.

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