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Old Apr 17, 2014, 06:47 PM
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This is hard to explain. I don't hallucinate, however I have felt that people - either distorted versions of friends - or people I have not ever met, are in a room with me even though I can't see them. I also sometimes feel as if they're occupying a place in my head and watching me, or just sitting there. When I shut my eyes I can vividly see then where I think they will be, but I think that is my imagination that they are there. Then I open my eyes and even though I dont' see anyone in the room I still can't tell if the person is there or not.
I'm sorry this doesn't make much sense, I just wanted to know if anyone else has felt like this. My diagnosis is Bipolar 2 hence why I'm posting it here, I try to tell myself I have to be making it up but it's really hard to differentiate. By this I mean it feels real, that I can't be sure that someone isn't there.
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Old Apr 17, 2014, 06:49 PM
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Yes, I can understand...if you're not actually 'seeing' people, then most likely you just have a vivid imagination
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Old Apr 17, 2014, 06:52 PM
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Yes, I can understand...if you're not actually 'seeing' people, then most likely you just have a vivid imagination
Thanks, it's because I know I get delusional, and I freak out that things might be stalking me etc but this is just kind of weird and I wasn't sure.
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This may be an unpopular opinion, but I believe in the paranormal. I've also recently (for a year or so) been reading about Shamanic meditation. I have seen and felt people that I am sure are from elsewhere and not a delusion or bipolar hallucination. Those feel distinctly different.

Yeah yeah, I know, part of the criteria of delusion is I believe it's real, but just trust me here. I believe it.
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I have to agree with TheatreKid here. I've felt/seen/heard people who should not have been where they were. And yes, it's different from a hallucination or delusion, at least for me.

The real question here is how is this affecting you? I can understand the "questioning reality" part of things, but do these experiences otherwise upset you? Are these good interactions with these other people/energies/etc? Or do you feel threatened by them?

If they're not causing you any real distress other than wondering whether or not they are real, then take a step back and just watch them. Listen to what they have to say and see if there is something there you need to hear from them. Do they demand that you interact with them or are they seemingly happy enough to just be there?
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The stuff that was psychosis, I eventually learned to recognize, because it often came along with disorganization, agitation, anxiety, paranoia.

Sometimes at night, and occasionally during the day, I see what I guess you would call "spirits" and they seem to ask me for help. Sometimes I don't see them but I feel them, as if there's a outline in space where they are. Like a weight, a heaviness.

I ran into a psychic completely randomly in a coffee shop once and I did a tarot card reading for her and she in turn gave me a reading and told me I had psychic ability (yeah I know, she may just be going by the fact that I read tarot, but she said a lot of other things that fit). I go through phases where I seek out information about psychic phenomena, and I go through phases where I don't care/don't believe. But even in those phases, things happen. Synchronicity, coincidences, energy. It comes when I'm stable.

And sure, I feel connected to EVERYTHING when I'm manic too, but I can differentiate mania from normal. Manic experiences are paired with intense elation, intense confidence, intense conviction. Regular experiences, half the time I'm like "What the **** am I doing?"

Sorry for hijacking your thread. I'm just passionate about this stuff.
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I understand what you mean. I have similar hallucinations I feel like there is someone in the room and I see shadow people. Maybe TheatreKid is right and we're sensing the presence of spirits. Its a nice idea anyway.
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Old Apr 18, 2014, 02:49 AM
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The stuff that was psychosis, I eventually learned to recognize, because it often came along with disorganization, agitation, anxiety, paranoia.

Sometimes at night, and occasionally during the day, I see what I guess you would call "spirits" and they seem to ask me for help. Sometimes I don't see them but I feel them, as if there's a outline in space where they are. Like a weight, a heaviness.

I ran into a psychic completely randomly in a coffee shop once and I did a tarot card reading for her and she in turn gave me a reading and told me I had psychic ability (yeah I know, she may just be going by the fact that I read tarot, but she said a lot of other things that fit). I go through phases where I seek out information about psychic phenomena, and I go through phases where I don't care/don't believe. But even in those phases, things happen. Synchronicity, coincidences, energy. It comes when I'm stable.

And sure, I feel connected to EVERYTHING when I'm manic too, but I can differentiate mania from normal. Manic experiences are paired with intense elation, intense confidence, intense conviction. Regular experiences, half the time I'm like "What the **** am I doing?"

Sorry for hijacking your thread. I'm just passionate about this stuff.
I do believe in paranormal stuff, and the idea of paranormal things being residual negative or positive energy in a place. I don't see things, it's mostly like I'd be convinced that someone was in the corner of the rom only I couldn't see them, but I also feel like they're in my head as well taking up a part of it. I know it's a really hard thing to describe. I feel connected to everything when I'm manic too, but I also get delusional when I'm not manic or depressed.
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I have to agree with TheatreKid here. I've felt/seen/heard people who should not have been where they were. And yes, it's different from a hallucination or delusion, at least for me.

The real question here is how is this affecting you? I can understand the "questioning reality" part of things, but do these experiences otherwise upset you? Are these good interactions with these other people/energies/etc? Or do you feel threatened by them?

If they're not causing you any real distress other than wondering whether or not they are real, then take a step back and just watch them. Listen to what they have to say and see if there is something there you need to hear from them. Do they demand that you interact with them or are they seemingly happy enough to just be there?
They can really really freak me out, or just be annoying. E.g. there was a guy staring at me at the gym a few weeks back, or at least it felt like he was staring at me and I wanted to go up to him and ask him to stop. I realise that may have been paranoia on my part. But about a week ago I became convinced he was sitting next to me in the living room even though I couldn't see him, and it felt as if his presence was sitting in the left right part of my head, just watching things and I couldn't get rid of that idea.
I don't see them in real life as halluncinations, as for voices they just sit there and I try to ask them why the **** they're sitting there in real life and when I think they're in my head. I'm sorry if I'm not making myself clear, when I try to explain it it just sounds really stupid.
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Part of my psychosis is that sometimes when I'm driving I think there is a man in the back seat of my car with a knife. When I turn around to look nothing is there. I also get the feeling that random people I don't know are thinking mean thoughts about me. I try to shrug it off as my disorder but its hard.
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One of the delusions I have is that often I believe that if I'm thinking about someone, they will take a presence in my head and be able to see and hear what I see and hear, like they're spying on me. I guess that's kind of similar?
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This is hard to explain. I don't hallucinate, however I have felt that people - either distorted versions of friends - or people I have not ever met, are in a room with me even though I can't see them. I also sometimes feel as if they're occupying a place in my head and watching me, or just sitting there. When I shut my eyes I can vividly see then where I think they will be, but I think that is my imagination that they are there. Then I open my eyes and even though I dont' see anyone in the room I still can't tell if the person is there or not.
I'm sorry this doesn't make much sense, I just wanted to know if anyone else has felt like this. My diagnosis is Bipolar 2 hence why I'm posting it here, I try to tell myself I have to be making it up but it's really hard to differentiate. By this I mean it feels real, that I can't be sure that someone isn't there.

I know how you feel, I get the same way at times. I do believe in the paranormal also and so does my best friend. I watched a movie once and for a week straight any time I looked at a clock and saw it say 11:11 I ran and turned on every light possible and hid in a corner of the brightest room and still thought I saw stuff. She had to come over and hold me for a while for me to calm down. It wasn't pleasant either.

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Part of my psychosis is that sometimes when I'm driving I think there is a man in the back seat of my car with a knife. When I turn around to look nothing is there. I also get the feeling that random people I don't know are thinking mean thoughts about me. I try to shrug it off as my disorder but its hard.
I get that, and that random people are following me if they are behind me, or even if no one is. It's hard to shrug off, but at least it doesn't consume us .
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Old Apr 20, 2014, 04:02 AM
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One of the delusions I have is that often I believe that if I'm thinking about someone, they will take a presence in my head and be able to see and hear what I see and hear, like they're spying on me. I guess that's kind of similar?
That's really quite like it actually, they come at random, sometimes it's a really distorted version of someone I know in real life - e.g. like a friend who's possessed, but then I also thought she was following me - and I can feel them in my mind but I can't do anything about it.
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I know how you feel, I get the same way at times. I do believe in the paranormal also and so does my best friend. I watched a movie once and for a week straight any time I looked at a clock and saw it say 11:11 I ran and turned on every light possible and hid in a corner of the brightest room and still thought I saw stuff. She had to come over and hold me for a while for me to calm down. It wasn't pleasant either.

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I've had that before, but this is different tbh. It isn't triggered so much by a movie and it's almost constant when it does occur. It's good your friend went over to see you though. I remember years ago after I watched paranormal activity it took me days to sleep with a light off.
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The lines on these things are so hard. And pdocs say different things and people have different feelings and opinions. My closest thing to that that I can think of was that I thought a man who had murdered me in a last life and was my great enemy was haunting my apartment and his "presence" was with me all the time. I spent a lot of time jumping and looking over my shoulder and holding a rock in my hand (this rock was apparently magical and protective).

I do believe in deep spiritually kinds of things but for me this was crossing a line. Some pdocs have told me this was psychosis, some have said just the very edge of psychosis, others it was just a delusion. Whatever it was it was not me.

I have also felt the "presence" of two good helping guardian spirits and other things like that. I like to think that they are different from my rock holding episode. But maybe that is just what I want to think. I don't know.

I hope you can work it out that it isn't distressing because that sucks. Good luck!
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The lines on these things are so hard. And pdocs say different things and people have different feelings and opinions. My closest thing to that that I can think of was that I thought a man who had murdered me in a last life and was my great enemy was haunting my apartment and his "presence" was with me all the time. I spent a lot of time jumping and looking over my shoulder and holding a rock in my hand (this rock was apparently magical and protective).

I do believe in deep spiritually kinds of things but for me this was crossing a line. Some pdocs have told me this was psychosis, some have said just the very edge of psychosis, others it was just a delusion. Whatever it was it was not me.

I have also felt the "presence" of two good helping guardian spirits and other things like that. I like to think that they are different from my rock holding episode. But maybe that is just what I want to think. I don't know.

I hope you can work it out that it isn't distressing because that sucks. Good luck!
It's seemed to lessen as the depression has come. I know what you mean though by honestly thinking someone's presence is in the room with you - albeit this one wasn't from a past life it was friends and random people from my actual life - and the seeing this out of the corners of your eyes. I've still not seen my pdoc and I know I should bring it up when I do, but at least its went away for now. I hope you're okay .
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I also believe in the supernatural. Although, I'm still trying to figure it all out (and honestly, I don't know if I ever will). There were months where I would see 'people' who were looking at me and sometimes following me, and I would have really weird things happen at night in my room. I don't know what any of it was.. But the thing that helped me (especially at night when I was scared!) was actually reading Psalms in the Bible. I know some people will probably laugh, but it gave me a peace I can't describe. There's more to it than that, but hey, it's worth a try.
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I also believe in the supernatural. Although, I'm still trying to figure it all out (and honestly, I don't know if I ever will). There were months where I would see 'people' who were looking at me and sometimes following me, and I would have really weird things happen at night in my room. I don't know what any of it was.. But the thing that helped me (especially at night when I was scared!) was actually reading Psalms in the Bible. I know some people will probably laugh, but it gave me a peace I can't describe. There's more to it than that, but hey, it's worth a try.
I'm glad that helped you, I normally go on youtube. I'm not religious but if I read the bible it actually just makes me worse as I had a delusion once that I was trying to get a message from God as I 'knew' the world was going to end horribley but I didn't know when. I don't see people, it's more I can't shake their presence. I'll defintely try reading books more to calm me down .
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I'm glad that helped you, I normally go on youtube. I'm not religious but if I read the bible it actually just makes me worse as I had a delusion once that I was trying to get a message from God as I 'knew' the world was going to end horribley but I didn't know when. I don't see people, it's more I can't shake their presence. I'll defintely try reading books more to calm me down .
That sucks about the delusion. I just thought it'd be at least worth suggesting since it really helped in the times I felt a presence which made me feel uneasy inside/a bit scared. Psalms are like reassuring that I am safe and it gives me unexplained peace, I guess. Revelations is more or less about the world ending horribly and doesn't really help. I'm sorry your delusion was like that
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Yup. My first major episode I have and it felt like spirits going through me and they were talking through me. I'm convinced that I had during the time of my psychosis that connection with the paranormal. I find it peculiar that fellow bp's experienced it as well. Why do we feel that we have these abilities?
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This is fascinating to me. My mixed episode with psychotic features entailed me being convinced evil spirits were haunting our apartment and were responsible for all the bad things happening to us, that I ran down the street to a cemetery and began begging the spirit of some random person's grave to protect us and begging for the evil spirits to leave us alone. I was hysterical, sobbing, and gone for hours. When I lived alone there was also another period of time I became convinced there was someone I couldn't see present in my apartment, and could swear that I felt their "energy field" and that they were trying to communicate with me. The last time, I was convinced the spirit I had asked for help in the graveyard during the first episode was stuck in our apartment and needed me to release her, so I totally did some kind of weird ritual that I felt made complete sense, releasing her to the afterlife. Only the first was SSRI-induced, the others were just on my own. Strange things the mind comes up with.
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