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Old Sep 30, 2015, 12:02 AM
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The psychosis stuff did not repeat since then because I figured out the trigger for it (it was me trying to get too close to an unresponsive partner in a relationship). But the episodes themselves did continue. sounds like borderline endurance psychosis. I really think a therapist can help you track down the culprit. If it is a PD they can help. if it's not they can help and suggest medication.
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Rapid cycling BP is having more than 4 episodes a year.

If you think you have a mental disorder then you should see a doctor and get diagnosed so you can figure out how best to deal with it.
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Old Sep 30, 2015, 12:23 AM
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The psychosis stuff did not repeat since then because I figured out the trigger for it (it was me trying to get too close to an unresponsive partner in a relationship). But the episodes themselves did continue. sounds like borderline endurance psychosis. I really think a therapist can help you track down the culprit. If it is a PD they can help. if it's not they can help and suggest medication.
Do borderlines have an unemotional schizoid-like baseline though? Because I'm not able to feel emotional for too long, it exhausts me fast, and it looks like borderlines are perfectly comfortable with feeling strong emotions regularly. I am most definitely not. Anything that's a strong emotion feels too intrusive and exhausting soon. Though it makes sense that allowing yourself to express them sometimes can be good to remove some tension but beyond that...no. Until 4 years ago I never really had such strong emotions in my whole life with the exception of anger at times.

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PS: do you have a good link about "borderline endurance psychosis"? I haven't found anything with google yet. Thanks once more
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Old Sep 30, 2015, 12:26 AM
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Rapid cycling BP is having more than 4 episodes a year.

If you think you have a mental disorder then you should see a doctor and get diagnosed so you can figure out how best to deal with it.
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I could not yet find a good psych that I could communicate with, hence I am still undiagnosed. Also they make me uncomfortable because they expect me to develop some sort of emotional connection and trust and whatever and I'm not really able to do that. I'm not even capable of showing anything about feelings to people including psychotherapists.
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Old Sep 30, 2015, 04:50 AM
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Borderline vs scizophenia I was unemotional at my baseline before meds because I was in crisis mode repairin and planning for the next episode. Bpd seems like they'd get tired. Someone with bpd would have to answer that. Also you can't truly know if you have only been psychotic ones. It took a ton of therapy and this board to prove I've been psychotic often not just the big times. Psychosis doesn't always lead to the hospital. Right now I halusinate the feelings of bugs on my skin fairly common for me.
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Old Sep 30, 2015, 09:08 AM
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Borderline vs scizophenia I was unemotional at my baseline before meds because I was in crisis mode repairin and planning for the next episode. Bpd seems like they'd get tired. Someone with bpd would have to answer that. Also you can't truly know if you have only been psychotic ones. It took a ton of therapy and this board to prove I've been psychotic often not just the big times. Psychosis doesn't always lead to the hospital. Right now I halusinate the feelings of bugs on my skin fairly common for me.
Thanks for the link!

I think I get tired faster of being emotional than what BPD people seem to be doing. But yeah I'll research this more.

I am by default a somewhat detached type of person is what I was trying to indicate by saying that I'm not naturally emotional. Not just in times of crisis. Though I was not so schizoid-like when I was younger.

I don't hallucinate about bugs or anything like that. Sure we can't truly know if this world even exists or if you are dreaming it all but I prefer to assume that it does exist - and in the same fashion I also prefer to assume that my memories have not all got corrupted rendering me unable to compare my current mind states and beliefs and the overall quality of my connection to reality in general, to my earlier states from times when I was definitely still normal without symptoms. Hence I'm rather sure that I'm not psychotic. Yes I have had some unpleasant changes in my mental states but not outright psychotic outside those two episodes.
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Old Sep 30, 2015, 09:58 AM
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So the rapid cycling bipolar does not have moods switching like that? I may have misunderstood that then? Let me know, thanks.
Leap if cycling means you more than 4 episodes a year. I have it and mixed episodes.

Borderline moods can switch very very rapidly. Really only a dr can help you sort through this stuff
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Old Sep 30, 2015, 10:08 AM
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Leap if cycling means you more than 4 episodes a year. I have it and mixed episodes.

Borderline moods can switch very very rapidly. Really only a dr can help you sort through this stuff
So within those 4+ episodes a year, does the person with bipolar have a constant high mood then a constant depressive mood between the manic/hypomanic episodes?
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Old Sep 30, 2015, 11:59 AM
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Everyone is different. It's like I said-only a Dr can talk to you and figure out what's going on. Mine are almost constant shifts because I'm not stable yet but I'm getting there.
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Old Oct 05, 2015, 10:31 PM
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Yes I had exactly that a long time ago. Anxiety, energy drain. Specifically for a few years I had incredible energy drain if around people. That started up when I was 18. I could not go to school or to a workplace. I stayed in isolation for 10+ years overall. (I did remote work.) I no longer have that sort of energy drain somehow, it went away after enough rest I suppose. The desire for isolation did not go away on its own though, it only changed 4 years ago when I ran into some guy who I tried to have a relationship with. That relationship lasted for a month but I never fell in love or anything, just the initial contact made me feel like I was connected.. for a short time or something. I never had that experience before I think? Not even before I was 18 and my normal default self. Then I just changed into this crazy and moody person afterwards lol and no longer wanting isolation. I'm 32 now btw if I didn't mention that.

Idk if that makes sense But this is why I wondered about some link if one is known between the two disorders.
There is a link between schizophrenia and bipolar (schizoaffective disorder), and schizophrenia and SPD are in the same family. But, I don't think there is a link between SPD and bipolar, at least from what I've gathered online and in forums. It seems pretty uncommon to be diagnosed with both, however, I have seen several people say they exhibit schizoid traits during depressive episodes. If you want to get some insight from pwSPD there is a fairly active forum at psychforums.com.
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Old Oct 06, 2015, 01:26 AM
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There is a link between schizophrenia and bipolar (schizoaffective disorder), and schizophrenia and SPD are in the same family. But, I don't think there is a link between SPD and bipolar, at least from what I've gathered online and in forums. It seems pretty uncommon to be diagnosed with both, however, I have seen several people say they exhibit schizoid traits during depressive episodes. If you want to get some insight from pwSPD there is a fairly active forum at psychforums.com.
OK, I'm not sure if my stuff qualifies as bipolar, except for its episodic nature.
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Old Oct 06, 2015, 01:29 AM
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Everyone is different. It's like I said-only a Dr can talk to you and figure out what's going on. Mine are almost constant shifts because I'm not stable yet but I'm getting there.
OK let me add, for me the baseline is constant neutral/detached/low-ish energy mood except for moments with anger which is perfectly normal for me, I've always been like that in my whole life. The low-ish energy thing is not how I was in my whole life however. That's the thing that seems like a somewhat depressive symptom.

But in the episodes that are not the baseline, I don't have a constant high mood. It's just high positive too and negative too. Mixed in this sense.
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Old Oct 07, 2015, 09:16 PM
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Im sorry but I cant really be of more help.
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