My pdoc. Just wow.

Total BS !

Personally I would just agree to take a med that there is no blood test to prove levels or anything. Fill your meds and toss them .

I would also find a lawyer and see what gives..

Your state sucks !

Yeah that's the problem with lying about depakote, they will be ordering blood tests to check levels and if you don't take it they will know.

I've never heard of something like this in the United States... It sounds like it should be illegal.

I never had a single blood test with depakote.

Did they give you paperwork? It looks like in my state if they use this kind of hold that you have a right to a court-appointed attorney and a hearing to get you off the hold entirely if you don't agree to the terms. From what I'm reading about my state (I can't believe I didn't know about this) the social worker would be the person to go to to say you want the attorney and that you want to challenge the terms of the hold. They are only allowed to restrict you to the "least restrictive environment" which is community level monitoring so if you can show you are safe you should be free.

I used to when I was on it years ago, and if they're checking for compliance they'll almost certainly do it.

That's probably why they wanted the depakote.

They can do it with lithium too.
My question would be, like Venusss said, why off Lamictal?.

Because she thinks lamictal is the tylenol of mood stabilizers and that it's not working for me.

I told her numerous times I want to stay on it. During my last appointment she even angrily upped the dosage.

My pdoc is mean!

These are her med options for me: depakote, latuda, risperdal.

I have told her NUMEROUS TIMES, that I don't want to go on those!

How is she planning to taper you off from it. The amount you're taking is respectable.
I'm asking because I'm also on lamictal an want to taper off it. I take 200mg.
My Pdoc told me a month. Fat chance.

Down 50mg every ten days, until I'm off, and then start me on depakote.

I'm assuming by flush you don't mean actually flushing it? Meds are not supposed to go into the water supply.
But I agree with this, do they check somehow to see if you actually take them?

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Latuda and Risperdal there is no blood work for ..

But ... Didn't you really have a hell of a time finding a PDOC ? And you have had issues affording some of the meds...

SO if you can afford to take them, Go old--ish school and Id fill Risperdal and toss the out .. Go in to see this bytch and nod and grin

I am so sorry you are dealing with such bullshyt!

Isn't it like bad idea to withdraw off meds if you aren't fully stable unless there is some good reason to go of it?

And if ****ed up if they want you on something based on if they test complicance for it.... not if the risks are worth the benefits.

I used to live in Wisconsin, too. I thought it was a civilized state. What a horrible ruling, to force commitment, and medicines against a person's will. If you live near a law school, students under the supervision of faculty sometimes take on cases. Your situation sounds like infringement on basic rights of a person. I'm so sorry you have to go through this.

Raspberrytorte,

Maybe (just maybe, I wouldn't know if you could in this case) you could ask for a second opinion. I'd say that right would trump that state legislation (but I could be wrong).

Is this kind of thing normal in much of the US or just in Wisconsin? Is it illegal or not (in some countries it is; attempted suicide)? You could also go for negligence, maybe: if she says that lamotrigine is bad for you and you took it as prescribed at the time, just before, you overdosed, that would seem like negligence to me.

Wow! Id suck it up and take them until the probation/court thing is over then take myself off. Definitely start looking for a new pdoc. Unfortunately after a sui attempt I didnt get a say either it was doc or nothing but I raised enough hell that they let me out in two weeks i believe the hold was up to a month. Mind you i dont think im allowed back to that hospital.

Well, after a sleepless, freaking out night, I've decided what I'm going to do.

First of all, refusing to take certain meds isn't non med compliant in my opinion. Everything I'm prescribed I am taking. Had I known med compliant entailed doing everything my pdoc said I would have handled things differently. My 90 day thing was up april 3rd. Yeah. Sucky. I was almost there.

Second I'm going to explain my situation to those two psychiatrists I have to be evaluated by and hopefully they'll let me off.

Third, if I end up on the six month thing, I'm going to pretend I'm taking the risperdal... But they're going to have to shove depakote down my throat. I AM NOT going on something where I have to have levels checked, could potentially lose my hair and gain a ton of weight and destroy my liver.

If I get out of the 6 month thing I'm going to pretend to do what she wants and april 3rd I'm going to tell her to **** off, fire her, make an appointment with my primary and ask if there's anyone else she can refer me too. If not I'll ask her to do my refills for me.

Thanks everyone for the support! You've all helped me feel better.

This was my opinion on it!

Taking someone completely off their mood stabilizer when they're fresh out of the hospital doesn't seem smart to me... But hey, I'm not a doctor, so what do I know.

icare - I think sui attempt is illegal in my state, but I'm not positive. I have to look it up. But it must be if you have to go to court afterwards and are put on 90 day probation.

Yes, not-a-doctor, presumptuous are we? Get back into line, you!

Thou art to take what is prescribed to you! Never question authority.

Yes, I'd guess the same. Do tell if you know more about how that works.

I wish you well raspberrytorte.

The legal system is punishing you for your sui attempt and you were already cleared for the emergency.

From my point of view, your pdoc is just a small piece of the puzzle, the said 90 day probation sounds like just an arbitrarily set number, and please keep in mind that the two psychiatrists that you'll be evaluated by may not be on your side, people you trust know you better, I hope you talk with them about what you're gonna say, missteps can happen, if two court appointed(?) shrinks find you not stable or whatever, (do they have access to your medical record??) you might find yourself in a worse position, so do be careful.

(Depakote side effects may include 'suicidal ideation'. I'm not sure if it's true, maybe someone else can confirm that.)

can you ask for a different them to consider different meds if depakote is out of the question?

In passing she said something about carmapezine or something. I don't know what that is though.

She's VERY hell bent on the depakote thing. She was pissed when I said, again, that I didn't want to go on it. She was scaring me!