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Old Apr 03, 2016, 11:25 AM
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I just realized I took this thread out of topic.
We are discussing addictive personality. Not addictions or dependencies.
My bad.

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Old Apr 03, 2016, 11:32 AM
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Old Apr 03, 2016, 11:33 AM
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Old Apr 03, 2016, 11:33 AM
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Old Apr 03, 2016, 11:36 AM
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Or mania.

But yes, dependence. Makes a lot of psychiatrists feel a lot less quilty.

But seriously, I'd say it takes some addictive natural tendency (is this word still taboo? ) to really get addicted, maybe.
Yes, it takes to have the propensity to become addicted.
There is where the addictive personality comes into play.
We have a different make up that turns us into addicts.
Many people drink, gamble, smoke pot, etc. Only a few get addicted.
Now, those of us with addictive personality, get compulsive about everything.
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Old Apr 03, 2016, 11:38 AM
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Yes, it takes to have the propensity to become addicted.
There is where the addictive personality comes into play.
We have a different make up that turns us into addicts.
Many people drink, gamble, smoke pot, etc. Only a few get addicted.
Now, those of us with addictive personality, get compulsive about everything.
My thoughts exactly!

(now, let me write that down... )
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Old Apr 03, 2016, 12:07 PM
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Eat my dust!
You don't have to blow my cover.

No matter how hard I try, I'll be eating your dust for life.
I type with two fingers and have to look at the keyboard.
And the backspacing is horrible. I should get a A for effort.
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Old Apr 03, 2016, 12:12 PM
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You don't have to blow my cover.

No matter how hard I try, I'll be eating your dust for life.
I type with two fingers and have to look at the keyboard.
And the backspacing is horrible. I should get a A for effort.
That's too experiment/game, statistics, results-like. Sorry.
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 12:18 AM
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That's me. For sure. You name it I can be addicted to it. Drinking, drugs, gambling, shopping, Men, etc.
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 10:06 AM
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I would say yes I have an addictive personality. But I don't suffer from addiction if that makes sense. I spread my vices around so as not to get addicted. However, if I had a constant supply for opiates or blow I would be done for.

Herb, opiates, alcohol, blow, compulsive exercise, restrictive eating, self-harm, shopping...I don't smoke cigarettes though.

Actually once i was manic and bought a pack of cigs and smoked like 6 in a row and didn't feel anything and it smells like ****, but I think it was the wellbutrin taking away the cigarette effect. I believe it is a smoking cessation med too
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 10:33 AM
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Most of the peope in my support group have concurrent addiction issues - narcotics, booze, gambiling, sex, etc. It all falls under Risk Taking behaviour which is a hallmark of BP. Addictions also arise out of a need to self medicate. They likely arise before our diagnoses and prescriptions are made. My own addiction is to aadventure.
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 01:24 PM
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I can be addicted to some personalities, yes.
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 05:00 PM
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Yes, it takes to have the propensity to become addicted.
There is where the addictive personality comes into play.
We have a different make up that turns us into addicts.
Many people drink, gamble, smoke pot, etc. Only a few get addicted.
Now, those of us with addictive personality, get compulsive about everything.
Ah. Think I just had a light bulb moment. I know they say addictive personality is not a thing. And I agree. I'm wired to getting obsessive, carried away and compulsive. All the things that "should" suggest belonging to the construct of "addictive personality". And yet... Nope. Never had addiction issues. All the predisposition never played out that way.

Our personalities don't turn us into addicts. Addictions do. And maybe that's their point. To have these propensities and believe in the idea of an addictive personality can prove to be fatalistic. Whereas someone who isn't wired that way might feel some false sense of immunity. THEY aren't prone to getting carried away, so it won't happen to them. All the while, the substances and activities don't care what you believe. They're equal opportunity.

It seems to be a concept that doesn't serve a positive function. We're not doomed or immune, so why endorse something that sets people up to believe that? The cost's too high.
Just a thought.
Thanks for this!
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 05:16 PM
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Most of the peope in my support group have concurrent addiction issues - narcotics, booze, gambiling, sex, etc. It all falls under Risk Taking behaviour which is a hallmark of BP. Addictions also arise out of a need to self medicate. They likely arise before our diagnoses and prescriptions are made. My own addiction is to aadventure.
yeah, that's what I mean-risk taking behavior, that's me (I forgot to mention klepto tendancies-def a risk there)
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