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Default May 19, 2016 at 07:46 PM
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Let us consider for argument sake that the entire range of human existense lies on a scale of 0 being death and 100 being “enlightened , or any way you desire to express exceeding all human understanding” …..

now for giggles let us say the average “normal” human has a range of 25 to 75 …. they never range below 25 to the exstream deep depression …. they never range above 75 where the visions and psychosis live ….

if these agruments are any where valid …. then only those who experience the complete range of 1 to 100 are truly being fully human …. if a human can experience it then to be fully human you need that range to do just that ….

my conslusion is that only the ones who can experience the complete range of what our mind can create are fully human …. take heart bp'lers and sz'ers ….

we may not be normal …. but we are fully human …. sounds good to me ….

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I think most "normal" humans have a range from 40–60 or something like that, rather. Those without any form of depression or mania. If our range is 10–90, maybe more like 45–55. If it were a linear scale. If that's even logical for emotion.

Some of us may never experience much between 40–60. SZ may actually be like 47–53, but there is this secondary, derived thing called perception on a separate scale which is far more volatile, sensitive (to change, of emotion, on the first scale) than the first one. Maybe that second one has a range of 30–70 for SZ. Use of psychostimulants may use the full range. Use of primarily serotonergic agents may use the full range of the emotion scale.

But interesting.

I don't experience much between 45–55 at least. I don't feel very human as a result. Someone even once said I might be a robot.

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So maybe two non-linear scales would be best, based on distribution/occurrence. I think then there are greater differences among us than in the entire human population, relatively speaking. If we were to experience those scales as linear, which makes sense.

It makes me feel alone. Subhuman.

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I love the way you think Wiretwister.

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This is beautiful. Thank you.
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you are not alone ... and you are not subhuman ... but I do think you try too hard .... relax .. enjoy the ride ... it's the only one we get ...
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you are not alone ... and you are not subhuman ... but I do think you try too hard .... relax .. enjoy the ride ... it's the only one we get ...
Thanks. But I either have to try or it gets dangerous or have to try (or do rather) because just because (more or less delusional). It's continuous because of that second scale, you know: it's sensitive.

But I appreciate you saying that. And I do try to see it as a bit of a game just to continue.

I am pretty easily satisfied though. It's a problem. Negative symptoms. In many ways that's more relaxing than "pure" BP. But it is both useful and a big shame. And it's that together with mania that appears like trying too hard. It's not: I just do, it's (disorganised) schizomania. I don't choose any of this it chooses me.

Ah well, it just is and is fine.

If anyone is bothered by any of it though, please let me know.

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Wiretwister, what an interesting point you make! If I may, I would like to add this in. Ok, without using the "r" word as to not be in the wrong forum or to offend anyone, I will work around it. I once heard a speach in which the speaker said that life was like being on a roller coaster, and that it was intentionally created to be that way. He went on to say that we are not truly living if we do not feel as though we are on a roller coaster.

I still to this day do not fully comprehend the moral in his speech. I definitely feel as though I am constantly on a roller coaster. However, people that I have known through the years who do not, have always seemed to be a lot more stable, rational, and quite honestly, much more successful than me. So, in my own mind, the roller coaster ride has not been worth it thus far, which oftenly leads me to wanting to get off of it.

Perhaps I just solved my problems. "If" I could be stable, rational, and successful all at the same time for an indefinite length of time, maybe I would no longer be sick. Then again, it is said that bp never fully goes away. I suppose I can still have a pipe dream every now and again, huh?
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the speaker said that life was like being on a roller coaster, and that it was intentionally created to be that way. He went on to say that we are not truly living if we do not feel as though we are on a roller coaster.

I still to this day do not fully comprehend the moral in his speech. I definitely feel as though I am constantly on a roller coaster.

if I had to guess I would say he meant to say ... a life without changes (ups and downs) would be boring and not challenging ... however he was talking of a rocking boat on a still pond where many bpler's are in a row boat on the stormy ocean ... he made a good point just did not understand you can have "too" much of anything no matter how good the intention was .... JMO .. Tigger
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