[Icare dixit]

Do you ever believe something is written, spoken, in a certain state or done just for you or maybe people like you or to express the state you're in or your thoughts (maybe that all of reality is created for you; when it later seems unlikely)?

Do you ever feel you control everything and/or everything around you (or you created it)?

Do you ever feel like others control you or things are made to control you?

Do you ever feel you have no control over your life, what you do and/or think, at all?

Anything like it?

[Icare dixit]

And: aren't all delusions (just) about importance, ability and control?

[bioChE]

Originally Posted by Icare dixit

And: aren't all delusions (just) about importance, ability and control?

Mine certainly are.

Originally Posted by Icare dixit

And: aren't all delusions (just) about importance, ability and control?

I definitely can relate to what you wrote in your opening message. This question you ask may or may not be true for me. I don't exactly understand the question in the way I think you intend it to be understood. My problem, not yours. I think you express yourself well but I must admit that sometimes I'm not sure what you are asking.

My delusions are sometimes very good and sometimes very bad. Sometimes they are illusions of control or delusions of a complete lack of it. How much importance the delusions have will determine how much they effect me. Is that what you mean?

[Wanderlust90]

Originally Posted by Icare dixit

Do you ever believe something is written, spoken, in a certain state or done just for you or maybe people like you or to express the state you're in or your thoughts (maybe that all of reality is created for you; when it later seems unlikely)?

Do you ever feel you control everything and/or everything around you (or you created it)?

Do you ever feel like others control you or things are made to control you?

Do you ever feel you have no control over your life, what you do and/or think, at all?

Anything like it?

I've never really felt reality is made for me, but I have felt like certain messages were sent just for me, like I identified with a message so much (maybe in a book/movie) that I felt like the universe was sending me messages, this happened particularly often when I was feeling really dysphoric. In a way I thought I was waking up to things that others hadn't or couldn't. I desperately tried to express this but was met with resistance. It linked in with the feeling of being controlled (maybe it's more control via social convention, I've felt that there is essentially a bigger force of intelligent people who are able to control how we think via messages in media etc).

Don't think I've ever felt like I've created the things around me though.

[Icare dixit]

Originally Posted by ElsaMars

I definitely can relate to what you wrote in your opening message. This question you ask may or may not be true for me. I don't exactly understand the question in the way I think you intend it to be understood. My problem, not yours. I think you express yourself well but I must admit that sometimes I'm not sure what you are asking.

My delusions are sometimes very good and sometimes very bad. Sometimes they are illusions of control or delusions of a complete lack of it. How much importance the delusions have will determine how much they effect me. Is that what you mean?

Yes, pretty much. But the importance of delusions are (as I see it) always eventually about self-importance as well. You understand something others don't and others threaten you or obstruct you for knowing what you know. You become the embodiment of the important beliefs.

[leejosepho]

Originally Posted by Icare dixit

...the importance of delusions are (as I see it) always eventually about self-importance as well. You understand something others don't and others threaten you or obstruct you for knowing what you know. You become the embodiment of the important beliefs.

I do not know what you mean by "the importance of delusions", and the fact that others might threaten or obstruct something does not prove the presence of delusion. However, I would agree it is delusional to believe oneself the embodiment of something indefensible, and I believe that would be true whether or not others might somehow threaten or obstruct conveyance of same.

[Icare dixit]

Originally Posted by leejosepho

I do not know what you mean by "the importance of delusions", and the fact that others might threaten or obstruct something does not prove the presence of delusion. However, I would agree it is delusional to believe oneself the embodiment of something indefensible, and I believe that would be true whether or not others might somehow threaten or obstruct conveyance of same.

Importance of delusional beliefs, that what you believe: delusions. Important beliefs. As in very, very, very important.

[Icare dixit]

And it doesn't have to be indefensible. No one is as good at defending (purely rationally, not necessarily convincingly; communication may be difficult and beliefs often unconventional) as the delusional.

[leejosepho]

Originally Posted by Icare dixit

Importance of...that what you believe...
...
And it doesn't have to be indefensible. No one is as good at defending (purely rationally...) as the delusional.

Got it, and your opening question is the one I had been pondering:

Originally Posted by Icare dixit

Do you ever believe something is written, spoken, in a certain state or done just for you or maybe people like you or to express the state you're in or your thoughts (maybe that all of reality is created for you; when it later seems unlikely)?

If we remove the "when it later seems unlikely" part, there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that the book "Alcoholics Anonymous" was written both to ask and to answer certain questions I could never have verbalized on my own even if I had been able to sort the feelings, thoughts and actual experience behind them prior to my recovery.