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Old Jan 01, 2017, 07:28 PM
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I don't know. My original estimate from a shrink was 120, but now my current counselor says that was an "underestimate," which is odd, since I had heavy shock treatments (not voluntarily).
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Old Jan 01, 2017, 07:34 PM
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Every time I take an IQ test as an adult I score 136 or something. I figured I'm an idiot since my ex has an IQ of 170! As a kid, they tested my IQ and the creative side I came out higher than the tester had ever seen and I was hailed some sort of super genius. Then I did the "left-brained" half of the test and came out "normal".
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Old Jan 01, 2017, 08:05 PM
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I'm actually trained to administer IQ tests. I have never had my general intelligence tested, but I imagine I would demonstrate strengths and weaknesses that would balance out to an average or low average IQ. For instance, my verbal abilities are higher and my visual-spatial skills are low.
I have the same profile. My verbal intelligence is in the 95th percentile when tested in a foreign language (would be higher if tested in my native language), and I do not remember my visual-spatial percentile, but it was low.

I now need to learn to use a SONY camera using visual explanations; it is easier for me to write a novel.

My non-verbal intelligence is average.
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Old Jan 01, 2017, 08:21 PM
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Tested as a kid by a psychologist at 148.
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Old Jan 02, 2017, 12:42 PM
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Old Jan 02, 2017, 07:14 PM
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Tested 11th grade- 140. Higher the IQ, higher the expectations to excel and rise to your potential. Never confident enough in myself to pursue my "potential". Though I received honors in college, the awards and my diplomas sat in a drawer for years. My current husband found them and hung them up. He doesn't understand why I don't proudly display them.
Higher the IQ, the deeper the introspection and a broader awareness and understanding of the world around us. Grist for the melancholy temperaments.
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Old Jan 02, 2017, 08:23 PM
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 08:47 AM
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I don't know what my I.Q. is. I was a B student. I like languages, writing, philosophy and art. I'm not very smart. I am unambitious.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 09:56 AM
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Tested 11th grade- 140. Higher the IQ, higher the expectations to excel and rise to your potential. Never confident enough in myself to pursue my "potential". Though I received honors in college, the awards and my diplomas sat in a drawer for years. My current husband found them and hung them up. He doesn't understand why I don't proudly display them.
Higher the IQ, the deeper the introspection and a broader awareness and understanding of the world around us. Grist for the melancholy temperaments.
So that's why I don't understand myself or "the" world around us!

And me thinking it was that I am, and the world around me is, constantly changing. But I'm just too shallow.

It's true I probably don't have melancholic depression (just the BP reactive melancholy), just the atypical one.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 10:20 AM
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Icare I always thought you had the highest IQ here. That goes to show IQ means nothing. You're super smart!
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 10:41 AM
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I love hearing everyone's stories about IQ. Thank you so much for sharing. My mother would never allow anyone to test my IQ. She thought I'd either get too proud of myself if I scored high, or very down if I scored low. A psychiatrist told me he'd estimate my IQ at 144. I scored 99th percentile on the English College Boards. Less on the math part but I was very good in Math at school. I am very poor on shape tests. I think a high IQ can cause all sorts of problems with "the world out there." I think I know way too much about "man's inhumanity to man." I have absolutely quit working on Federal Government political issues. After 60 years of activism, I see almost no results. True, we did a few MAJOR things. We did stop atmospheric nuclear testing, probably influenced getting out of Vietnam, and creating environmental "protections." I'm now working on local issues, and playing my musical instruments and singing semi-professionally. Doing art/music is a huge political freedom that is taken away and denied in many countries, both historically and now. I'm working on housing issues, too, especially trying to outlaw "no cause evictions" in my state.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 11:21 AM
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Icare I always thought you had the highest IQ here. That goes to show IQ means nothing. You're super smart!
That's all deception. I blame it on my BPD.

But I do agree IQ scores aren't very useful (at least for people with "schizo" as part of their diagnosis; I'm not at all a rational person by nature but from a young age I was forced to try to become one to stay relatively sane).

Edit:
My problems with praise (and expectations, real or imagined) are BPD problems. I just assume you just said it to be nice. At any rate, you must have noticed I'm still an idiot.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 11:43 AM
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Icare I always thought you had the highest IQ here. That goes to show IQ means nothing. You're super smart!
Education has nothing to do with IQ.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 11:55 AM
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Education has nothing to do with IQ.
True. And I was fortunate to have the chance (and I have the debt to prove it) and a foolish belief in myself. But the "schizo" part (and the mania as well) accounts for the need/desire. But university helped.

Still, educating yourself is a choice. Just go to a library, watch recorded lectures, ask someone to help you or search the Internet.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 12:01 PM
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But IQ does have to do with parenting (part of which is also education). It's certainly not all nature and no nurture.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 12:02 PM
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I was generalizing with your specific case. Is that possible?.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 12:12 PM
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Probably not a popular opinion here, but I don't think IQ is an accurate descriptor for one's intelligence. Literally, WAIS IV has an entire section dedicated to assessing your knowledge, and my problem with that is knowledge and intelligence are two separate entities.

While I realize that it's difficult to test for "intelligence" without testing for knowledge, we don't need to go as far as asking, "who is the author of [insert book name here]?" (which is an actual question on one of the versions of WAIS IV). Just because someone hasn't learnt what something is, it doesn't mean we should penalize them for it. Learnt knowledge and intelligence are not related.. There are plenty of people who suck at learning but are quite intelligent. So... test for learning disabilities separately. Same with testing for attention span separately. My poor attention span due to ADHD is not representative of my abilities.

Besides, being a good test taker is different from being intelligent. Some people have test anxiety or just suck at test taking altogether. Others can quickly figure out how to game the test (which is what I did). So I think my score is higher than it should have been.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 12:40 PM
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I agree.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 01:16 PM
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I was generalizing with your specific case. Is that possible?.
Yes, but schizo-people don't need formal education to educate themselves necessarily, in general. I'm not at all an example of someone who was succesful when it comes to formal education. So you can't generalise from my specific case based on that. You can still just make a point of course. One I agreed with and illustrated with my specific case.

Medium psychotic on the psychotic spectrum, psychoticism, BP–SZ, means low verbal intelligence and even lower spatial intelligence. In truth, spatial intelligence is too good for simple tasks (hypercorrection) and verbal intelligence is low because there are not many words that fit the concepts of those towards the SZ end. That's what the word schizophrenia means: split mind.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 02:19 PM
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 03:00 PM
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159 at age 8. 25 years of lithium, anticonvulsants and antipsychotics have steadily reduced that score to a sturdy 4. Mensa doesn't return my calls.
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159 at age 8. 25 years of lithium, anticonvulsants and antipsychotics have steadily reduced that score to a sturdy 4. Mensa doesn't return my calls.
4 is good on a scale of 1 to 5.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 03:18 PM
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What does Mensa do exactly (probably stupid question, I know)?
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 06:44 PM
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took an IQ test when I did my psych eval or OVR. 119, but it said I have a reading disability. I was told that if my reading was on par with my math and reasoning skills, my IQ would probably be in the 140s. I'm a math and science wiz, that stuff just comes naturally to me. but ask me to sit down and read a book and comprehend what I've read, and its like duuuuuuuhhhh...
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