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Old Dec 21, 2016, 01:24 PM
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Anyone else have BPD as well? This confuses me. I don't know the difference between my BP symptoms and BPD symptoms. I can't tell which is which. It also makes med treatment harder. I feel like I've been dealt a ****** hand and I'm confused.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 01:39 PM
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I haven't been diagnosed with BPD, but sometimes I do wonder.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 01:43 PM
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I haven't been diagnosed with BPD, but sometimes I do wonder.


I have every horrible symptom. I'd say that my BPD makes my life harder than BP. I actually didn't even know I was DX'ed with it until my attorney got my records for social security. Nice how the pdocs DX'ed me and didn't even let me know lol. After i read my files I looked it up and yep, explains me exactly. It sucks.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 01:52 PM
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I have BP. But not Bpd.
I think I also have pstd. But haven't talked that diagnosis from Pdoc.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 01:57 PM
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I have BP. But not Bpd.
I think I also have pstd. But haven't talked that diagnosis from Pdoc.


Yes I also found out through reading my records that I have PTSD too.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 02:05 PM
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For me it's just a light and less abstract, more personal (i.e. involving relations with people and personality) version of schizoaffective disorder (BP type), which I have as well.

It's more chronically psychotic (however mildly) than BP. It's especially very different from BP2 (without mixed or clear, inconguently psychotic features).

Instead of three types of mental state there are like 4, where the two more normal states are very changeable (i.e. there are things that easily cause a switch from one to the other and one state can cause the other very quickly causing enormous confusion). There is no normal state, causing a feeling of emptiness and of lacking one identity.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 02:07 PM
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My BPD causes more trouble than BP I think. I become so impulsive and say or do things that get me in trouble. I act without thinking. I plan on working on this with T. But how do you now when to stop yourself from acting out??
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 02:12 PM
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My BPD causes more trouble than BP I think. I become so impulsive and say or do things that get me in trouble. I act without thinking. I plan on working on this with T. But how do you now when to stop yourself from acting out??
Just ignore feeling regret, guilt, uncertainty or shame. That's what I do. You can either suppress all expression or just accept you're always creating a mess, basically. Suppression is very unhealthy.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 02:23 PM
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Just ignore feeling regret, guilt, uncertainty or shame. That's what I do. You can either suppress all expression or just accept you're always creating a mess, basically. Suppression is very unhealthy.


My T told me I have to chose and pick my battles. Problem is I can't stop myself soon enough and before I know it, I've made a huge mess. Just a few min ago I was going to message my ex and let him know I got his message but I stopped myself. I knew after typing a few words that I could be starting a major problem by messaging him. And I have a bf! What was I thinking?! At least I was able to recognize this and stop it. For once.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 03:07 PM
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 03:09 PM
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Sometimes I wonder whether I have BPD symptoms. I'm an all or nothing kind of person with intense reactions to small problems. I tend to have unstable romantic relationships. I have a fear of abandonment and ending up alone. I'm irritable much of the time and have self-injured a few times in the past when upset. I'm not impulsive because my anxiety seems to keep me from doing a lot of things my intrusive thoughts tell me to do. My self-image has always been consistently negative. I'm never bored and only really feel empty when depressed. I have dissociated before but only when undergoing a severe mixed episode. So I'm not sure.
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I've been dxd with bpd, bp, panic disorder and PTSD. I've done two years of DBT to get through the bpd stuff.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 03:45 PM
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The hospital dx'd me with bpd but my pdoc and I don't think I have it.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 03:47 PM
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I've been dxd with bpd, bp, panic disorder and PTSD. I've done two years of DBT to get through the bpd stuff.


My T office has a DBT program but it's a group and meets twice a week and if you miss more than two classes within the year of the course, you get kicked out. I wasn't ready to make that commitment seeing that my transportation is always compromised. And there's times when im rapid cycling that I just can't be around people. I wonder if my T can help me one on one. Did it help you much?? Did you do a group or one on one? I wonder if there's anything I can do online.
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I have both BP and BPD. I spent six months in DBT, but my husband couldn't get me to group on time and I quit. I learned quite a bit. My T doesn't know DBT so it's hard working with him.
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Old Dec 21, 2016, 04:22 PM
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My T office has a DBT program but it's a group and meets twice a week and if you miss more than two classes within the year of the course, you get kicked out. I wasn't ready to make that commitment seeing that my transportation is always compromised. And there's times when im rapid cycling that I just can't be around people. I wonder if my T can help me one on one. Did it help you much?? Did you do a group or one on one? I wonder if there's anything I can do online.
Yes it's a group and we meet once a week from 1:30-3. It's a big commitment but I have changed so much I don't even show signs of bpd much anymore. In fact once I'm done with DBT they might remove that dx. For now I have to keep it so insurance will cover it.
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Old Dec 22, 2016, 02:57 AM
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If you run a search for this topic, I assure you quite a few threads will pop up, its a popular topic of discussion, on this board and the BPD one.

I've managed to untangle the BP from the BPD, and it has helped immensely in calming things down.
Unfortunately I cant get into it now, but remember these main things:

BP is organic, BPD is inorganic... It's a mixture of messed up perceptions, skewed thought patterns, and unhealthy behaviour.

BPD is reactive, its dependent on relationships, people and environment. It's an interpersonal issue, with interpersonal triggers. Eg, my boss may make me want to hurt myself, but before I can react my bf shows up with a bunch of roses and hugs...
The focal point of my mood will automatically shift and become my bf, which means my mood will change.

BP is random, besides very specific triggers like stress and sleep deprivation, nobody causes a BP episode / moodswing.
Randomness is actually part of the dx criterion, last time I heard anyway.
Also. Main thing, Once in a specific mood state, something or someone won't just snap you out of it. It's over when its over.

BPD is destructive, but pliable with the right tools. Meds shouldn't be an issue because they rx the same stuff for both dxs.
I've done DBT for two years now, it's been immensely helpful, and yes I do it in a group, it's better that way, because we get to see similarities in our behaviour, discuss where we go wrong and how to behave better.
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Old Dec 22, 2016, 07:00 AM
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My p and t suppose i have both as well or at least traits of both anyway my borderline symptoms which were mainly interpersonal got way better with one to one therapy. Bipolar Symptoms didnt
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