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Old May 16, 2017, 05:00 PM
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When can you come away from them? Or when can you not come down but you can't escape them from reality? When do you believe them as absolute truth?

For instance, you know that more than likely no one is actually coming in your home but you still find yourself terrified and hiding and cryin?
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Old May 16, 2017, 05:08 PM
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if I'm delusional I fully believe them as absolute truth
but I can also become deeply paranoid when I know more than likely it's not true but the fear and thoughts are there anyway.
if you can get a hold of the paranoia before it turns to full fledged delusions then that is your best bet.
Im not sure how to do that besides trying to ground yourself and talk to someone and don t be alone
there are many wise ppl on this forum that will have better advice
but know I'm feeling for ya
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Old May 16, 2017, 05:29 PM
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I just know that any time I believe that the Holy Spirit is healing me in ANY way, I'm on my way to a bad, bad place. And, the reality of this thinking is becoming more and more realistic. I am drinking more and more water and sucking so much from the shower it is almost making me puke (sorry for the imagery!). I KNOW these thoughts do not agree with reality but I can't shake the reality. It's like I fluctuate between this is the Holy Spirit and I have completely lost my mind. I do this until, you guessed it, I completely lose my mind. And in some ways I know this. I know in my demeanor and in how everyone treats me. I feel like I'm becoming depressed...or maybe just failing at my faith. I want to die and I feel like the enemy is imposing suicidal thoughts. I know the thinking is not my own. I just can't anymore.
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Old May 16, 2017, 05:53 PM
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First, are you drinking excess water because of dry mouth--which could be medication-related, or is it part of a delusion? EITHER WAY, hyponatremia will be the likely result--adding many symptoms, both physical and mental. Hyponatremia can be severe and extremely dangerous. The doctor has limited my water intake because of my susceptibility, though I am not presently on medication.

Even years after specific delusions, if I dwell on them they begin to take hold! It is maddening. 'You are not alone' is little comfort when in the throes of psychosis. Sending thoughts of healing and rest for a troubled mind.


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Old May 16, 2017, 05:55 PM
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I went through a very powerful delusional experience recrntly. It's a reoccurring themed one but changes and alters each time and expands during each episode. One day my husband kept count and the organization expanded 4 times in one day. Basically I believe I'm being stalked by religious people to force me to convert or they threaten to drive me deeper into insanity. It told me I'm a white witch and that religious people like to harm witches so I was in danger. It was very real and very terrifying. I was 100% invested in the belief. Now, there IS truth in it. My religious friend says she is never confronted by religious people trying to convert her but I always am. Most of the time they assume I'm Christian and want to talk about the Bible but sometimes it's forceful. So it's not completely delusions. Today we had a housekeeper come that my inlaws got for us. She brought me a relugious card and at the end, came to my room, grabbed my hands and said a prayer. At this point it's become very clear to me that Jesus really wants me so I'm done fighting and will go to church. I already walk the walk, might as well talk the talk too. What can it hurt? But here is something I'd like to say.....religious people don't think they are hurting people but they've sent me into horrifying delusions so that is not exactly true. We need to be careful with these things I think....but some do not understand the harm they do. Had my housekeeper come last week and did that, it would have put me in the mental hospital for sure.
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Old May 16, 2017, 05:58 PM
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if I'm delusional I fully believe them as absolute truth
but I can also become deeply paranoid when I know more than likely it's not true but the fear and thoughts are there anyway.
if you can get a hold of the paranoia before it turns to full fledged delusions then that is your best bet.
Im not sure how to do that besides trying to ground yourself and talk to someone and don t be alone
there are many wise ppl on this forum that will have better advice
but know I'm feeling for ya
THANK YOU for this! It was an enlightening distinction for me between paranoia and full-blown delusions.
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Old May 16, 2017, 07:11 PM
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I have different levels of delusional. Sometimes I can tell what I'm thinking is probably crazy (when I still have insight) and other times the psychosis is more severe and I fully believe the delusion. That's usually when I end up in hospital.
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for me, if I still have insight I tend to call it paranoia or wierd thoughts

as it was explained to me the definition of delusions or delusional is fully believing something despite the evidence against it.

when was in an episode and i thought the tv was talking about me and to me etc I fully believed it .

when I have gotten paranoid or "wierd thoughts" then I still have insight left
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Next the walls were closed on me
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I know the thoughts are wrong but they feel right. I know just enough not to share them with anyone. When I share them I tend to receive the label psychotic.
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First, are you drinking excess water because of dry mouth--which could be medication-related, or is it part of a delusion? EITHER WAY, hyponatremia will be the likely result--adding many symptoms, both physical and mental. Hyponatremia can be severe and extremely dangerous. The doctor has limited my water intake because of my susceptibility, though I am not presently on medication.

Even years after specific delusions, if I dwell on them they begin to take hold! It is maddening. 'You are not alone' is little comfort when in the throes of psychosis. Sending thoughts of healing and rest for a troubled mind.



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Old May 16, 2017, 08:40 PM
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for me, if I still have insight I tend to call it paranoia or wierd thoughts

as it was explained to me the definition of delusions or delusional is fully believing something despite the evidence against it.

when was in an episode and i thought the tv was talking about me and to me etc I fully believed it .

when I have gotten paranoid or "wierd thoughts" then I still have insight left
I have heard this same thing; thus the question. I have been fully delusional and I have been in a place where I know everyone else will think I'm crazy but I know I'm not. It is a confusing place to be.
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Old May 16, 2017, 08:42 PM
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I went through a very powerful delusional experience recrntly. It's a reoccurring themed one but changes and alters each time and expands during each episode. One day my husband kept count and the organization expanded 4 times in one day. Basically I believe I'm being stalked by religious people to force me to convert or they threaten to drive me deeper into insanity. It told me I'm a white witch and that religious people like to harm witches so I was in danger. It was very real and very terrifying. I was 100% invested in the belief. Now, there IS truth in it. My religious friend says she is never confronted by religious people trying to convert her but I always am. Most of the time they assume I'm Christian and want to talk about the Bible but sometimes it's forceful. So it's not completely delusions. Today we had a housekeeper come that my inlaws got for us. She brought me a relugious card and at the end, came to my room, grabbed my hands and said a prayer. At this point it's become very clear to me that Jesus really wants me so I'm done fighting and will go to church. I already walk the walk, might as well talk the talk too. What can it hurt? But here is something I'd like to say.....religious people don't think they are hurting people but they've sent me into horrifying delusions so that is not exactly true. We need to be careful with these things I think....but some do not understand the harm they do. Had my housekeeper come last week and did that, it would have put me in the mental hospital for sure.

I hope you land carefully as we love you around here. I'm sorry for the fear you must have felt!
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Old May 16, 2017, 09:49 PM
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Yes Cash, it was so frightening but seemed to explain everything which had its perks but I had to stay in isolation forever to protect myself which wasn't pleasant. It's better now but I'm still not over it completely.

Please be careful with your water Cash. My husband worked at the state hospital and patients who were committed were often so because of their water seeking behaviors and ability to kill them selves by drinking too much. (((Hugs)))
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Yes Cash, it was so frightening but seemed to explain everything which had its perks but I had to stay in isolation forever to protect myself which wasn't pleasant. It's better now but I'm still not over it completely.

Please be careful with your water Cash. My husband worked at the state hospital and patients who were committed were often so because of their water seeking behaviors and ability to kill them selves by drinking too much. (((Hugs)))
Thanks again. In some ways I can relate to your experiences. When I was the most sick I've ever been (about 5 years ago), I prayed with an enchanting and beguiled passion. I was absolutely certain my prayers, my ever so powerful and ultimately bizarre prayers, would always come true. I believed I was a prophet or of that nature. I am TERRIFIED of losing my sanity to that degree again. And, I know if it happens once, it can happen again.
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Old May 17, 2017, 01:01 PM
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I relate very much to "if it happened once, it can happen again". What I don't understand is how the delusions can mostly go away and I see things as others see them, and then I can be taken down by such a similar delusion. If feels like I'd be immune since I recovered from the last bit I don't think I ever do fully recover. The delusions are always there even when I get better, they are just much smaller and less all encompassing. I don't want to be as out there as I was a few weeks ago ever again. Everything was a sign, everything was instructing me and giving me messages and it felt so bizarre and surreal.

I hope we both can cling to reality for ever and ever cash. (((Hugs)))
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