[kazza29]

I have found this article.what are your thoughts.ive copied and pasted it
Borderline Personality Disorder on the Behavioral Unit
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Feb 25, '08 by Thunderwolf
Folks with Borderline Personality Disorder or BPD can often be a challenge on a behavioral health unit. When dealing with BPD, here are some cognitive-behavioral tips:

1. Focus on the here and now, not yesterday or the past. The present is all that matters and where it leads to in the immediate future. The present is what placed the person on the unit in the first place. The future allows a way out.

2. Focus on cause and effect, his/her actions and the resultant consequences. Hold the person accountable for his/her actions (and choices) and how it contributes to his/her current state of unhappiness.

3. Be objective...always...during your interactions. Lose your objectivity, you pay the consequence of being manipulated now or later by the BPD.

4. Focus on hope and the ability/courage to change for the better. Most folks actually become empowered knowing that they can eventually beat the odds despite the setbacks...even if the BPD feigns/believes in the hopelessness.

5. Focus on the self, not on anyone else...externalizing keeps the problem unresolved.

6. Boundaries, boundaries always. My business has no business in the BPD's business. Codependent staff have the most difficulty with this. Folks with BPD often hone their radar out for codependent folks, be it other patients or staff. When the BPD begins focusing on you, shift it back. Do not become a BPD's victim or his/her escape from his/her reality.

7. Progress is measured by movement, not by staying the same. It is a forward movement. Staying the same breeds misery. The best progress is slow and planned. Beware of change that happens overnight...rarely does it succeed or last. When it does happen overnight, make a prediction for the BPD that it may fail. Prediction (or to future project consequences) is a powerful clinician tool. It is also a cognitive skill that we wish the BPD to develop as well...so we model it.

8. Challenge the BPD to improve his/her situation in a positive manner. Do not take NO for an answer. Challenge his/her choices for the better. It provides hope.

9. Focus on choices and the power in making better choices. Hold the BPD accountable to his/her choices and the actions that follow...for better or for worse. No blaming or externalizing...or poor me's. Keep it objective. The difference between being hopeful and being hopeless is in the cognitive choices we make.

10. Structure your interactions with a purpose, an agenda to be discussed/resolved. Ambiguity or having an ambiguous interaction will get you nothing but ambiguous results. Ambiguous interactions lead to little or no change and are a general waste of precious time. 1:1s and groups are to have a concrete focus. Place value on the time and on the interactions.

11. Do not be shaken when the BPD "tests the limits". It is nothing more than a interactional formality of trust for the person with BPD. Expect it to happen...be ready for it...remain objective. When your limits/structures set by you are challenged, it is nothing but the BPD asking "Can I trust you to keep me safe?" Despite the anger or threats by the BPD, the BPD actually comes to respect and trust you more when you do not cave in..."I can trust you, you can keep me safe, even from myself and when I try to manipulate you." For the BPD, the proof is in the pudding.

12. Educate the BPD to his/her diagnosis. Despite what some may think, it does NOT lead to a self fulfilling prophecy. What it does show to the BPD is that the condition is well known and is easily understood. Assist the BPD to identify his/her criteria that meets the diagnosis and begin problem solving/goal planning away from them. It also helps to keep the BPD objective...a desired goal.

13. Discuss responsibility with the BPD...but not as a punitive thing. Break it down for the BPD. An easy way is to look at the word itself...Responsibility....aka Response and Ability....that is it in a nutshell. It truly comes down to "being able" to "respond"...in this case, "in getting your genuine human needs met in a better way"...no different from anyone else. This is a good place to introduce Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. When you use the term Responsibility with the BPD, it is in reference to this. "How have you or what have you done today to get your fill in the blank personal need met?" Irresponsibility is couched in the manner that one has neglected his/her own personal needs, preventing his/her own happiness. If one wants to be happy, meeting one's needs are a requirement. Then tailor this with choices..."we can choose to be happy or unhappy...let's look at your basic human needs." or "No one is responsible for your happiness...but you are. What have you done today to accomplish this?" Give the responsibilty back to the BPD to own...even if he/she chooses not to...it is his/her choice.

14. Shy away from the victim mentality. Most folks of BPD WERE victims at one time. That is not the problem, however. The problem is that the BPD derives benefits in remaining a victim...and will fight tooth and nail to remain one. Lots of rewards, lots of power, lots of attention are won by it. It is better to focus on being a survivor, moving forward, removing oneself from it. The past holds no hope. The future does. That is the goal...not reliving or replaying the past. Setting boundaries on this is important. You are not to give the past any energy. The past is the road block to genuine progress. If the BPD pulls you back to the past or back to victimhood, redirect and redirect again. If the BPD chooses not to, it is time to close down the interaction. I would be comfortable in saying to him/her that "our purpose together is to see you succeed...and that can only be by moving forward. We can continue to talk about your progress now or get together later."...give the BPD the choice. Always choices, like a broken record. Remember, a victim has no choice. You let the BPD see that you refuse to play the victim game...leaving the choice of victimhood squarely in his/her own lap.

15. Choices...so important for you to model them for the BPD. A true choice allows you to always choose otherwise. Drawing choice charts are helpful. Choice A leads to additional choices X, Y, and Z. I can also choose not to do Choice A, which leads me to Choice B, which gives me choices D, E, and F. You get the picture. Again, pull the BPD into the head or into the world of cognition. The emotional quagmire and mud keeps the BPD stuck in his/her dilemma...like quicksand. Choices allow hope...emotional angst does not.

16. Do not fall for the statement "It is my choice to kill myself." This is game playing at its worst and is not a true choice. Remember, a choice always allows you to choose otherwise. Dead is dead...no other choice...therefore, not a true choice. Believe it or not, the BPD knows this...and wishes nothing more than to yank your chain. Don't fall for it...redirect.

15. Do not reward or give undue attention for misbehavior. During these times, you are to remain the most objective, matter of fact. Address the situation calmly, directly. Do not give the emotional response that the BPD hopes to gain from you. For little misbehaviors/comments, use benign neglect and/or have it be a topic for your 1:1.

16. For larger misbehaviors, remove the BPD from other patients...do not provide an audience (secondary gain). This can be via time outs/quiet times or via having the BPD perform some structured exercise. Seclusion or restraint is a last resort. Typically when it comes to this, it means the team missed the boat somewhere or didn't intervene early enough...for whatever reason.

17. During 1:1s, share your honest, objective observations about the BPD's behavior, choices that were present, and progress made. Focus on the positive, but do not lie. The BPD has wonderful radar in picking up dishonesty. If you cannot be congruent in honesty with the BPD during 1:1s, it will come back to haunt you. You may also become a focus of staff splitting later on as a result...for he/she has lost his/her respect and trust for you. Trust and integrity often go hand in hand. So, we have to model that integrity in order to genuinely gain that trust.

18. Monitor who the BPD gravitates towards...often they seek out other adult BPD's, adolescents (easily to manipulate), Passive Dependent types, and Codependents. Watch for the groupings and groupies. Often times, the BPD forms his/her group to be its leader, to challenge their cause as his/her own. During such, do not address the BPD as its leader...but acknowledge that each person will be addressed individually in time...take the BPD out of that role. The role of the BPD leader is nothing more than another game. It is also a planned distraction by the BPD to not address his/her own stuff on an individual level. Do not be suckered into it. Focus back on the BPD and what personal needs he/she needs to work on...as well as during the next 1:1. BPD's may also gravitate towards Antisocials to either perpetuate his/her victimhood and/or to manipulate them later. Monitor for this as well.

19. Now, the topic of 1:1s. It is best to schedule your 1:1 with your BPD at the very beginning of your shift...make them first. BPD's are very sensitive to slight. If pushed off to the end, they often interpret this as the other patients having special treatment. Don't play that game. Knock out the BPD 1:1s first if possible...it removes the BPD arguement and game. Structure the 1:1, make it count for something. Very important...objectively announce when the 1:1 time will be over (right off the bat)...and when it ends, it ends. Life does not wait for the BPD, neither do 1:1s. There are time frames. It also helps the BPD to remain focused. Structure what is to be discussed initially...the 1:1 needs to have an agenda...purposeless 1:1s to shoot the breeze are not therapeutic...you can do that on the unit. Make the 1:1 time valuable, focused. Use much of what I have just discussed above. Assign/agree upon homework/practice exercises till the next 1:1...in actuality, it continues the 1:1 past the 1:1 time for the BPD. It also creates an expectation set for the BPD to work on improvements. Come to a collaboration (if possible) in what the next 1:1 topic will be focused on. Have the BPD person feel valued in his/her 1:1 time, especially in the progress made. Always reward positive outcomes and progress in the 1:1. If after the 1:1 the BPD approaches you again for additional 1:1's, inform the BPD that 1:1 time is over for you and that journaling, homework, or making notes to bring for the next 1:1 would be the best option at this time. Embue the 1:1 time as a valuable commodity...something to not waste or to take lightly. Encourage the BPD to bring his/her notes back to the 1:1...it helps the BPD to objectify...very good.

20. Lastly, treat the BPD as an adult, not as a child...even if it is tempting. An adult BPD acting out like an adolescent is but a game playing role he/she chooses to play. It has also become a comfortable role for him/her...free of responsibility, many secondary gains, a nice distraction from working on the real issues and progress, and allows one to generate and bask in his/her own chaos. It also perpetuates his/her own victimhood. When the BPD plays the child, do not become his/her mom/dad/abuser/et cetera. You remain who you are. You are the nurse, a clinician. Monitor your own speech pattern and tone of voice. Monitor how you are now interacting with him/her...your structural interaction. How has the distance between you and him/her changed? Did you switch into a role easily placed by the BPD?...if you did, you have allowed yourself to be manipulated. Pull back, let another team member handle or end the 1:1, take a time out for yourself, regroup and refocus, and be more mindful the next time during the next interaction. Again, treat the BPD person as an adult, respectfully, honestly, but always objectively. Also, when you treat a BPD like a child, don't complain too loudly afterward when he/she does act this way. You got what you asked for (you structured it or failed to)...treat a BPD like a child, you WILL get childish behavior. You certainly expect better than that...so approach the interaction as one grownup to another. You will eventually get better results. And the BPD will eventually feel better respected as a person by you as well...making improved cooperation possible.

Remember, BPD is a personality disorder...it took a lifetime to achieve...it will take some time to diminish as a major problem. Most PD's mellow out with age on their own, with maybe Histrionic PD being the exception to the rule. So, until that time of the mellowing, expect acute symptom episodes and hospitalization. Despite this, the progression is certainly impacted by what the person does or does not do for oneself. This is where you come in during the hospital stay...providing the alternatives for a less bumpy road.

I think it makes us sound like attention seeking childish manipulators

[Girl_Interrupted]

I think you need to make clear that you've copied this over to make comments about it that you don't like it, and put a trigger warning on it.

I don't think there's a need to read this. It's an upsetting article to be honest, on how we are seen by bystanders. It's certainly nothing we haven't seen before.

[kazza29]

Originally Posted by Girl_Interrupted

I think you need to make clear that you've copied this over to make comments about it that you don't like it, and put a trigger warning on it.

I don't think there's a need to read this. It's an upsetting article to be honest, on how we are seen by bystanders. It's certainly nothing we haven't seen before.

I tried submitting it as a link but some reason i am not allowed so had to copy it.i didnt mean to upset you

[Girl_Interrupted]

Oh no I'm fine. These kind of people just p*ss me off a bit, is all. Like ignorance about LGBT.
Life eh xD

[nicoleb2]

Typical article about BPD, and shows how we are typically treated. Unfortunately, being treated that way has never helped me...

Sad. Mental health professionals are the ones who ACTUALLY perpetuate the BPD stigma. While reading, I immediately picked up on black and white thinking. It seems that "normal" people (esp. healthcare workers) are very capable of doing the same.

The content did not surprise me one bit. I have an interest in how medical professionals treat certain patient populations, and have read articles/papers much worse than this. I find it quite disturbing to read a pessimistic view from a healthcare professional. Argh!!! Often, I wonder if this impression is worsened by healthcare providers, who refuse to listen to BPD clients. If someone is very desperate and people refuse to listen, undesired behaviours can be resorted to. Many normal people are very capable of doing the same.

A lot of these negative views are due to poor outcomes. They are based on a time, when there was non-effective treatment for BPD. New treatments have been introduced and shown to be effective, but are not widely available or wait lists are excessively long. How are people supposed to respond to therapies that are known to be ineffective? It is like giving an anti-coagulant to a diabetic patient, rather than insulin.

Remember this article is not objective. The author seems to have had a very nasty experience with one individual. It is very dangerous for people to assume all individuals with BPD possess identical personality traits and behaviours. It is like autism spectrum disorders. There are common features, but everybody is different in the way they manifest it. Severity varies. No one is the same.

How is being considered a lost cause supposed to help? There has to be hope, and there is. People need to be heard and respected. I think listening would make a big difference. All it takes is one person.

Some people will be hurt by reading this tread, but I think it can benefit some readers. Knowing how BPD is perceived by mental health workers, can help deter them from resorting to "acting out" behaviours. Recognizing and reducing these will improve communication and understanding. I know, it sounds heartless, but I think both sides must meet half way.

A lot of education must be done within psychiatry. They are the ones who created this stigma and they must fix it. Articles like this don't help.

I have met people with BPD, who did not fit the description of heartless manipulators. Not everybody is this way.

[OctobersBlackRose]

Originally Posted by Didgee Eeyou

Sad. Mental health professionals are the ones who ACTUALLY perpetuate the BPD stigma. While reading, I immediately picked up on black and white thinking. It seems that "normal" people (esp. healthcare workers) are very capable of doing the same.

The content did not surprise me one bit. I have an interest in how medical professionals treat certain patient populations, and have read articles/papers much worse than this. I find it quite disturbing to read a pessimistic view from a healthcare professional. Argh!!! Often, I wonder if this impression is worsened by healthcare providers, who refuse to listen to BPD clients. If someone is very desperate and people refuse to listen, undesired behaviours can be resorted to. Many normal people are very capable of doing the same.

A lot of these negative views are due to poor outcomes. They are based on a time, when there was non-effective treatment for BPD. New treatments have been introduced and shown to be effective, but are not widely available or wait lists are excessively long. How are people supposed to respond to therapies that are known to be ineffective? It is like giving an anti-coagulant to a diabetic patient, rather than insulin.

Remember this article is not objective. The author seems to have had a very nasty experience with one individual. It is very dangerous for people to assume all individuals with BPD possess identical personality traits and behaviours. It is like autism spectrum disorders. There are common features, but everybody is different in the way they manifest it. Severity varies. No one is the same.

How is being considered a lost cause supposed to help? There has to be hope, and there is. People need to be heard and respected. I think listening would make a big difference. All it takes is one person.

Some people will be hurt by reading this tread, but I think it can benefit some readers. Knowing how BPD is perceived by mental health workers, can help deter them from resorting to "acting out" behaviours. Recognizing and reducing these will improve communication and understanding. I know, it sounds heartless, but I think both sides must meet half way.

A lot of education must be done within psychiatry. They are the ones who created this stigma and they must fix it. Articles like this don't help.

I have met people with BPD, who did not fit the description of heartless manipulators. Not everybody is this way.

I can't say thank you enough for what you said. I show so many BPD and AvDP traits and articles like that make me afraid to address them to any mental health professional, I never felt like i was a "victem" of anything or that I am a 'heartless manipulator" I also take responsablitiy for my actions but that is just me, this article also seems to want to "change" bpd rather than help manage it, trying to "change" someone isn't going to help helping the person manage the issue at hand will help. Sometimes I think the mental health professionals don't like treating people with personality disorders because it is too "hard" for them, we aren't all the same with traits etc. and they can't easily just "push" medications on us either. So they pin us off as "attention seekers" and that we are all the same only to contribute to a stigma and make getting the right help harder for us. Just my opinion.

[dillpickle1983]

wow not only did that article make me upset, but I find alot of it complete BS.. Shows the position of some psychiatry professionals. Udder BS.

[OctobersBlackRose]

Originally Posted by chandlerT660

wow not only did that article make me upset, but I find alot of it complete BS.. Shows the position of some psychiatry professionals. Udder BS.

Yeah I was upset by the article also, made it hard to figure out how to write my previous comment, ugh even thought about it in the shower which should have calmed me down. So needless to say I was triggered quite a bit by it but not offended (that takes more)

[Marie67]

Narcissists are manipulative. Borderlines are not. Mental health workers who don't get this probably also think that small children cry "to get attention" and should therefore be ignored. Grr. Borderlines can be the most loving people and should never, ever be called "manipulative." Scared, angry (at being scared), yep. But "manipulative" implies calculation, which is pretty hilareous in reference to borderlines. I mean, how calculating can you be when you are totally freaking out? Sorry -- I realize I'm preaching to the choir -- wish I could talk to the writer of that article.

[OctobersBlackRose]

Originally Posted by Marie67

Narcissists are manipulative. Borderlines are not. Mental health workers who don't get this probably also think that small children cry "to get attention" and should therefore be ignored. Grr. Borderlines can be the most loving people and should never, ever be called "manipulative." Scared, angry (at being scared), yep. But "manipulative" implies calculation, which is pretty hilareous in reference to borderlines. I mean, how calculating can you be when you are totally freaking out? Sorry -- I realize I'm preaching to the choir -- wish I could talk to the writer of that article.

Thats what I kept thinking but couldn't get at, couldn't even think straight after reading the article. Your point is totally valid. Thank You

[krisakira]

I am not "a BPD." I am a human being!

[kazza29]

I have only recently been dx with BPD by a psychiatrist.before I was dx staff on the psych ward were nice but after the diagnosis the psych nurses started treating me different.ive had stuff said to me by psych nurses such as `this is a hosp for sick ppl not attention seekers`,` your not ill`and more.
I am 30.Ive only really just seeked help after a suicide attempt and I am an attention seeker.

i read this article going 'yep, yep, yep thats me'

reading your responses i realise what an issue that is - obv this is the opinion i have of myself (fueled by others responses to me)

however, i show narcassistic traits to so maybe its true - maybe i am manipulative....i really dont know

trigger warning deffo needed though - but thanks for sharing, this thread has bought up some interesting things for me

[-jimi-]

I'm not BPD but was thought to be. I was always treated like crap by healthcare, if I was suffering I was ignored, if I was in danger I was ignored. I know why too. I actually took psych classes at uni before I was myself a patient. I was taught how to treat people with BPD. Some things taught were to always treat them strict, never show emotions, never acknowledge their pain, because they don't feel real pain as we know it, they will try to destroy you because it is within their nature. The only thing that helps is treating them like criminals and give them no choices and never slip up and treat them as if they are human.

I'm not sure what is taught today. This was 1992. But the rules were clear. And the distance was the most important, never "reward" the BPD'er with attention, EVER. Never show caring. EVER. I remember I was a little puzzled about that attitude. But I was more than puzzled when me, myself became a BPD patient and I got this treatment. It didn't help I knew what was coming. After a few years I was a broken soul. I still am. I never recovered mentally from their treatment.

I wanted help for my depression. I described how bad it was, how I couldn't think or function, I described the thoughts I had. I was told I'm NOT depressed, and we will NOT discuss depression or thoughts. Because then I would get worse. We will ONLY discuss how I should stop being stupid, lazy and evil basically. How I was undeserving. How I should pull myself together. Those exact words weren't used, but it was what doc meant....

I guess I fed into her belief of attention seeking bringing up depression a lot, because it was so severe I needed help for it and I needed it NOW. But all I got was I should stop saying those things. And when I told about my thoughts she laughed in my face, saying she knew I was only faking. After three years of fighting, I got an antidepressant and my life changed.

A while after I was rediagnosed Asperger's and the diagnosis of BPD was dropped. The doc started treating me like I was HUMAN. No more emotional torture. If I needed a med, I got it. Damage still done. I still, after all those years, hate that doc and I wish something bad will happen to her. Something where no one will listen and she will feel like she isn't worthy and people will tell her to shut up and stop faking.

I hope things have changed, I hope no one is treated like this anymore. Sure I can understand how a doctor wants some distance and not be an enabler.... but I don't think it helps ANYONE to be treated like crap, on purpose, and be told they are less than human. I don't think I was damaged because I was treated for the wrong thing, I think I was because their method reminded of torture.

thats an awful story jimrat - reallysad

[-jimi-]

Karma will get her.

[Longcat]

I actually felt like I could really relate to the article. I think I'm nice and not very bad (well not today, I'm in a good mood) but I can be heartless and make every one's life absolutely miserable because I can't find something and start to think they hid it from me to make everything harder. Than I start manipulating by making them feel bad for no reason and get the apology I want, even if I later realize I placed it in a stupid spot myself.

Also, I find the time thing quite important. I was (and still sometimes am) late and never realized the difference it makes in how people perceive you. I have learned to be on time, and things go much better.
I understand how this can go bad for healthcare professionals, since some think people with mental illness should be treated a if they are crazy. I think with boundaries it helps improve the limits I will push someone and I need them. I believe the author meant it in that sort of way, not to make the it seem like people with BPD are annoying little children. I know I always say things and people take it in a completely opposite way.

[kazza29]

Originally Posted by jimrat

I'm not BPD but was thought to be. I was always treated like crap by healthcare, if I was suffering I was ignored, if I was in danger I was ignored. I know why too. I actually took psych classes at uni before I was myself a patient. I was taught how to treat people with BPD. Some things taught were to always treat them strict, never show emotions, never acknowledge their pain, because they don't feel real pain as we know it, they will try to destroy you because it is within their nature. The only thing that helps is treating them like criminals and give them no choices and never slip up and treat them as if they are human.

I'm not sure what is taught today. This was 1992. But the rules were clear. And the distance was the most important, never "reward" the BPD'er with attention, EVER. Never show caring. EVER. I remember I was a little puzzled about that attitude. But I was more than puzzled when me, myself became a BPD patient and I got this treatment. It didn't help I knew what was coming. After a few years I was a broken soul. I still am. I never recovered mentally from their treatment.

I wanted help for my depression. I described how bad it was, how I couldn't think or function, I described the thoughts I had. I was told I'm NOT depressed, and we will NOT discuss depression or thoughts. Because then I would get worse. We will ONLY discuss how I should stop being stupid, lazy and evil basically. How I was undeserving. How I should pull myself together. Those exact words weren't used, but it was what doc meant....

I guess I fed into her belief of attention seeking bringing up depression a lot, because it was so severe I needed help for it and I needed it NOW. But all I got was I should stop saying those things. And when I told about my thoughts she laughed in my face, saying she knew I was only faking. After three years of fighting, I got an antidepressant and my life changed.

A while after I was rediagnosed Asperger's and the diagnosis of BPD was dropped. The doc started treating me like I was HUMAN. No more emotional torture. If I needed a med, I got it. Damage still done. I still, after all those years, hate that doc and I wish something bad will happen to her. Something where no one will listen and she will feel like she isn't worthy and people will tell her to shut up and stop faking.

I hope things have changed, I hope no one is treated like this anymore. Sure I can understand how a doctor wants some distance and not be an enabler.... but I don't think it helps ANYONE to be treated like crap, on purpose, and be told they are less than human. I don't think I was damaged because I was treated for the wrong thing, I think I was because their method reminded of torture.

Reading this is very similar to how I was recently treated but only after the dx.I am never going back to psych hosp again.I have in fact totally pulled out of their system and I am now concentrating on my bulimia.I have asked for a second opinion

[cboxpalace]

Originally Posted by Marie67

Narcissists are manipulative. Borderlines are not. Mental health workers who don't get this probably also think that small children cry "to get attention" and should therefore be ignored. Grr. Borderlines can be the most loving people and should never, ever be called "manipulative." Scared, angry (at being scared), yep. But "manipulative" implies calculation, which is pretty hilareous in reference to borderlines. I mean, how calculating can you be when you are totally freaking out? Sorry -- I realize I'm preaching to the choir -- wish I could talk to the writer of that article.

While I agree borderlines can be loving and compassionate. I disagree with your comment about manipulation. While I won't say all of manipulate... It is NOT uncommon for us to use misdirection to get what we want, and that usually revolves around affection and feeling loved.

[widgets]

Originally Posted by _frogslegs_

i read this article going 'yep, yep, yep thats me'

reading your responses i realise what an issue that is - obv this is the opinion i have of myself (fueled by others responses to me)

however, i show narcassistic traits to so maybe its true - maybe i am manipulative....i really dont know

trigger warning deffo needed though - but thanks for sharing, this thread has bought up some interesting things for me

yes me too.. i thought 'well i am awful, manipulative and an attention seeker,' maybe if people treated me like this, i'd soon learn not be, or i'd get worse, i dont know... If i was being treated with this approach, i hate to say but i'd probably try and push them to see how far i would have to go for them to give in to me.
Either that, or be completely compliant, but either way, i'd be choosing my game and playing it.. i'd pretend to be 'better,' to humor them.. i think anyway

[OctobersBlackRose]

Everyone has valid views and opinions. My thing was not with the issue of bpd symptome but with how it is treadted within the mental health community, im trying to get evaluated again; and 8yrs ago as a 12yr old i was treated like crap and an attention seeker and had no proper dx they couldn't rule anything out basically I hate psych hospitals for that and only a couple of nurses treated me nicely, and frankly I was scared by this article (even if im not dx'ed with bpd) and scared to know my true dx but I need to know to help manage myself.

I guess I just don't get why the mental health community puts a stigma on bpd and other such disorders, it is considered a disorder for a reason and everyone with it has different symptomes and acts differently, and we're not faking either. Reminds me of the saying "treat others the way you want to be treated"

[pegasus]

Hello Kazza29, this article could have been written by anybody. Do you know who wrote it, their qualifications and when it was written? Or could you provide a link to it?

I was Dx'ed with BPD at the age of 16. EXPLETIVE!!! The entire experience was hell. I left psychiatry, profoundly hurt and traumatized. My angry and bitterness persist to this day.

One staff psychiatrist at the local general hospital told me, "You are wasting my time." It hurt my feelings. How is that therapy?

Now, I am fiercely independent.

[kazza29]

http://allnurses.com/psychiatric-nur...er-410694.html

thats the link