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Old Nov 03, 2012, 12:14 AM
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This a definitely a theme that keeps coming up in my romantic life. There are times when I'm in love with my bf (of over 3 years), followed by a lot of times when he bugs the heck out of me, then a few others where I feel a panic inside and just need to get the heck away from him asap! It scares the bejeezers out of me ~ and makes me feel super-guilty.

I'm terrified of losing my bf. He's so attached to me & thanks his lucky stars that I came into his life. Lots of compliments that I'm always unable to accept, with a super low self-esteem. It would be a lot easier to figure out what I'm supposed to do if we didn't have those wonderful, fun & romantic times together.

He's attached to my 2 daughters & they are to him as well = more guilt and anxiety. I just don't know how to work through this confusion of what's right to do, and terror that I'm going to be alone.
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Old Nov 03, 2012, 06:25 AM
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Oh, Shez! I'm sorry you're going through this. I can identify with what you're feeling, and it's not easy.

I'm not sure if our situations are exactly the same, but I feel similar emotions towards SO pretty regularly. The only way I've found to deal with it is to try and be as forthcoming as I can about what I'm feeling at any particular moment, and SO tries to give what I'm asking for (space, attention, validation, etc). Then I work through the next emotion that crops up. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. I don't know if that helps, but hopefully knowing that someone understands eases your mind a bit! A question, though, what do you mean by trying to figure out what you're supposed to do?
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Old Nov 03, 2012, 12:19 PM
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A question, though, what do you mean by trying to figure out what you're supposed to do?
I'm afraid that I'm living a "fake" life. I don't want to battle these emotions for the rest of my life.

I was this same way with my ex-hub, for our 17-18 year relationship. I can't stand the thought of continuing this. It's got to stop! At the same time, part of me counters that I must of had some love for my ex-hub & we just couldn't work through my troubles in the end. Maybe my current bf and I will be able to work through my troubles. Idk! I'm scared...and confused.
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Old Nov 03, 2012, 02:12 PM
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Shez,

I understand this. I can relate.

This is 'splitting'.

We BPDs do this often enough. We can't integrate. Our emotions about a particular person, event, thing or situation are not cohesive. They don't follow a linear path. We can not thread the emotions together:

Our perception: If I am not good I am bad. If I am unhappy I am sad. If they are not GOOD then they are BAD! If they don't love me then they hate me. If they don't agree with me then they adamantly disagree with me. If I am not pleased with them I must be displeased.
Reality: I can do bad things but that doesn't make me a bad person. I have various emotions ranging from happy to sad with many in between. Other people are fallible, they are not perfect and I can't expect them to be good all the time. A person can love me and still disagree with me. etc.

From wiki
"Splitting creates instability in relationships, because one person can be viewed as either personified virtue or personified vice at different times, depending on whether he or she gratifies the subject's needs or frustrates them. This along with similar oscillations in the experience and appraisal of the self lead to chaotic and unstable relationship patterns, identity diffusion, and other-directed mood swings. ...
The borderline personality is not able to integrate the good and bad images of both self and others, so that people who suffer from borderline personality disorder have a bad representation which dominates the good representation."

I am fully convinced it is developmental (along with the entire Borderline pathology)...we didn't create essential pathways needed when our fragile minds were still developing! It's not our fault and we can still open those pathways to ourselves it just takes a lot of work and patience. So first, be very patient with yourself shez, try not to beat yourself up about having these thoughts.

What if you tried writing down things about your bf that you know to be true? ie. he is good with the kids, he makes me laugh, he knows how to cook really well etc. I find that if we can remember the other person's good qualities, especially when splitting takes place it can help us begin to form a cohesive 'full' concept of that person.
We can begin to see a person (or ourselves) on a whole spectrum of differing moods, actions, beliefs rather than on one side of the spectrum and then the other.
Your bf can't be annoying ALL the time can he? He must have some good qualities to remember. Make a list of those things, pull them out when the negative side of the splitting takes place. What do you love about him?

I can certainly relate, my SO gets on my nerves and I really have to work at discerning between good and bad and integrating it all into one person, I feel this is a key aspect that DBT addresses. With mindfulness we can begin to integrate things into a more linear pattern. With our very segmented and temporal way of thinking we jump all over the place from one extreme to the next (I find myself doing this often enough). I can understand how it can be frustrating and overwhelming.

We are running in 'emotion mind' when we want to be running in 'wise mind' we can not be wise or rational when we are running on our emotions (ie. annoyance, anger, frustrationg) we can only be rational when we are mindful and truly aware of what we are feeling without judgement.

Try this worksheet.
http://www.dbtselfhelp.com/html/mind..._emotions.html
On the one side write your current perceptions --what is he doing that pisses me off? why is he doing it? ie. interpretation: he is leaving dishes on the table to irritate me on purpose, if I talk about it we will break up vs. mindfulness: when dishes are left there I feel overwhelmed, he is not doing it on purpose, he is just forgetful. If I talk about it using interpersonal effectiveness we can begin to communicate better and change our current situation.

Also, DBT suggests when communicating with others to use the acronym GIVE:
Gentle- Be open, patient, generous with time and attention, talk with someone the way you would want to be talked to.
Interest- Show interest in what they have to say, ask questions.
Validate- Just as we want to be validated, so do others, repeat parts of what they say to show that you're listening. Validating doesn't mean agreeing.
Easy manner- Be light, easy, smile, make jokes. Is this a serious thing anyway? Am I putting too much emphasis on it? Take it easy, we'll laugh about it later.

You are definitely not alone in this shez..I really do understand what you're feeling. It's frustrating to think our minds can be so chaotic and extreme. Just remember that you don't have to make any decisions right now, especially not while you're emotional. I know it often feels like one blow up with a SO can appear as if the whole relationship is going down the pipes...but mindfulness helps us integrate those things too. Keep talking. Sending much love your way.
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