[dexter]

I'd been sleeping OK but last night no go. Partly from a lot of joint pain, I guess most of that is the rain moving in in my area. But there was a point during the night that I noticed I was perfectly comfortable, no pain, nice cozy position, and I just wouldn't fall asleep. No racing thoughts or anxiety either, just no sleep.

I didn't get any sleep until my final attempt after 4am. Then I had a really weird dream, it was an underwater horror movie, I was on a submarine and someone bought a shark aboard as a practical joke, it was supposed to be a perfectly tame shark but then of course it started eating everyone and they cordoned off parts of the ship. Bruce Boxleitner was the captian and was keeping everything under control.

Then at one point I had to move into another room and it turned out Sigourney Weaver was in the cast too, came in in the middle of the movie in basically the same character as Ripley That's about when I woke up.

I tried to sleep again and then had another dream, another movie (I often dream movies, it is usually a mixture of watching them and taking part then sometimes switching to being "real") but this one was weird for me, it was a sort of romantic comedy starring Sandra Bullock of all people, she was an executive of some sort and kept driving from parking on a busy street shopping and to her office, and some guy kept ending up near her in his car. The weird part was all of the driving scenes were really fake, with the actors in a fake drivers seat in front of a blue screen, at one point Sandra Bullock had to honk a bicycle horn in the car.

At some point I ended up in the office helping her organize her day with a big bulletin board full of appointments with celebrities. Then I went to work in my own area and I was working for my old boss (the one I had problems with at my old job... the one that led me into the hospital) and I was trying to "play nice" with her and then the owner of the company, who was my current boss came in and critisized everything I was doing.

It was not a happy dream.

I think part of the second dream was because while I was up at night I was watching Murphy Brown on TV, and Candice Bergen was in "Miss Congeniality" with Sandra Bullock, and I'm pretty sure Candice was one of the names on the bulletin board when I was helping organize.

Dreams seens so real sometime doesn't it? You wake up remembering it and even if you tell yourself it's not happening now or never did happened, it seems so real it's hard to take it off your mind.

I hope you can sleep tonight with beautiful dreams.

(((((((((((((((Dexter)))))))))))))

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[(JD)]

Gee, I hope so too that you get some good sleep tonight. What else could your dreams be telling you, I wonder?

[dexter]

The one's I described I don't think have much deep meaning other than that I was in a late light sleep and they were triggered by things I had seen on TV.

I also now remember I had another dream last night that involved the Cosby family... I remembered because I remembered I had a dream involving something else I saw on TV and then remembered I saw the same episode of Cosby twice that same day (once in the day and once in the early morning when I couldn't sleep).

That dream involved my house, and a surreal type of reoccuring dream where I live in a different house, or it is my house, and there are many many more rooms than my real house has, and both in the dream and after I wake up I realize I've been living in just a few rooms in the house and forgotten in the others and I have exciting feelings about expanding into those rooms, moving a TV into one of those rooms, having friends over.

Each time I have that sort of dream, the house seems familiar, but I think it is a newly made up house every time. I can now remember the house from last night very well and I can't think of a parallel in any real house I've seen. Lots of stairwells all over, and different sections with three bedrooms each.

These dreams seem to come up when I have stress about my situation, like now when I am worried about bills again, and seem to be trying to provide me a bit of hope and relief. In the dream, the extra rooms seem to symbolize that there had been something I have overlooked, a new solution, space to grow and breathe. Mixed blessing, because that feeling lingers when I wake up, but then brings back the anxiety when I realize it was just a dream.

I used to often have a different dream... Where I owned the house I am in now but for some reason I am living at my parents house. In the dream I've been at my parents for a long time and suddenly remember about the house I own, and I panic because I haven't tended to the lawn or the mail or anything and it is all overgrown and a big mess. Again, I would usually wake up thinking I was in my parents house, and I'd be really disoriented until I actually get out of bed and take in my actual surroundings. Those dreams used to be pretty scary and related to stress. They mostly went away when my depression began... one of the symptoms of my depression is that for the longest time I didn't remember having any dreams at all.

I love hearing about people's dreams. I love getting lost in the abstract realities of dreams. They are sooooo stinkin' cool!
Have you tried to interpret these dreams? Do you think there's a reason your subconscience picks up certain things you watch on television to be in you dreams?
Good luck with sleeping tonight, Dexter. I was up 3:30 in the morning because I had to get up to pee and then couldn't get back to sleep.

[tamzinrose]

I love the weird dreams. I only have nightmares though so it's just like...blah.

[dexter]

>>Do you think there's a reason your subconscience picks up certain things you watch on television to be in you dreams?

In the first two cases above I don't think so, I think I was just having so much trouble sleeping, and when I finally did fall asleep I was in and out of a light sleep, and my brain was just picking up on the things I had just seen.

Remember that for the most part we all have many dreams every night (although medication and depression can effect that), so it is not a matter of dreaming, it is a matter of those dreams that we remember having when we wake up. In these cases I think those dreams were just close in my memory when I woke because my sleep was so troubled and so light.

The later dream with the Cosby family was a much more significant dream for me, but the significant part was the house and my reactions, my interaction with other people there and their relationship to me... not specifically that it was the Cosby family. I really think the specific people were just "handy" in my subconscious because of what I had recently watched. In fact, for the most part, although "within the dream" all the people were cast members of the show, most of them were more significant personalities with regard to my feelings and interactions... they just sort of had the "label" and some of the faces of Cosby show members, just for the sake or "realizing" them you could say.

I also do like dream interpretation. For myself, I don't generally go in for looking things up to see what common meanings they have in dreams, I believe more in determining what the significance of those things have in my dreams to my life, feelings, and emotions. Sometimes it takes a little exploration to "Break through" but in the end I think that all dreams are highly personal, what means one thing to someone in one dream can mean something completely different to someone else in their dream.

The best "dream interpreters" I've enjoyed watching work that way... rather than tell you what your dream "meant," they work with you to explore the emotions surrounding the items and events in your dream and help you connect them to events or fears or hopes in your waking lives.

A lot of my dreams are fairly simple... IRL I have "control" issues you could say, I like to be in control of situations and events, which is one reason I always volunteer to be the one who drives on any trips I would take with my friends... and I would often have dreams of driving in my car but having the seat pulled too far forward so that I didn't have enough leg room to operate my clutch or be able to shift gears or even operate the brake. Very claustrophibic feeling, even though I don't have any sort of claustrophobia in real life. In the dream there was panic at being in an unsafe situation in the car, but upon waking I realized the real "panic" was in not being in control of the situation.

[dexter]

So last night I did sleep better, and I had a dream that involved a secret underground room with a spiral staircase leading down from the street... it was an old bank entrance or something, but my friends set it up as a video production studio, with a big projection screen, and we were working on making a movie.

I was sometimes inside watching them argure about some of the editing and special effects in the movie, sometimes outside talking to people.

Notably I was not "in control" of this video production, I was just on the sidelines letting others argue about the artistic details. Very unlike me, but it was a comfortable position for me in the dream (I've come some way from the cramped car dreams described above )

Also in the dream the overall feeling was of peace and comfort at belonging to this group of friends... something I am STRUGGLING with so horribly right now, as I feel so cut off from everyone right now and really feel like even with friends I am in contact with, I don't belong to part of any group.

[tamzinrose]

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I feel so cut off from everyone right now and really feel like even with friends I am in contact with, I don't belong to part of any group.

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I can totally identify with this. I feel like I'm on the outside looking in...the complete outcast. It's hard, and it makes no sense.

Outcasts are cool!

[(JD)]

(((((DEXTER)))))) you belong here with this group of your friends!

[dexter]

Thank you sky,

I do know that, and didn't mean to slight anyone here, it has felt especially good to be able to come back here during these current troubles.

Still finding a "community" outside of cyberspace is important to me too.

well, if anyone wants to really, really laugh. read about my dream that i had last night.

i was living with my parents and Simon Cowell came to visit us. he was very charming and we were all enjoying him a lot. my parents went to bed and he went to bed in our guest room. i was the age that i am now and so was Simon.

my bedroom was very victorian, frilly and really pretty. i was sleeping in a very flowing, thin and flattering nightgown. i was slowly dozing off to sleep and guess who came into my room? Simon did. he chatted a bit and one thing led to another and we ravaged each other. i woke up and thought about that for awhile. laughed. went back to sleep and dreamed about it again.

i've always been a big fan of American Idol and admire Simon Cowell because he always says what he thinks. but ravaging him? it was delightful.

[(JD)]

TY Dex, I didn't mean to imply you slighted us.. I just wanted to share how you are part of our group here! Yeah, I know about IRL..wishes...

dexter, you're very wanted here. i'm sorry if i didn't express that. i sorta hi-jacked your thread. sorry. pat

[dexter]

>>i'm sorry if i didn't express that.

That's something that is not necessary to express... I do feel welcome and wanted here.

Nothing's been hi-jacked either... it is fun to discuss everyone's dreams!