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Old Jun 17, 2014, 05:07 PM
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I write songs and these questions help me get inspired to write future tunes.

At the car boot sale I saw lots of people with very little money but they all smiled were polite, friendly, looked content and relaxed. Later I passed an exclusive restaurant and everyone looked hurried uncomfortable constantly on their phones bored and fake.

If you won £100 million tomorrow would it make you happy? Would it cure the blues. Would riches bring a long awaited escape from loans, stress and work would it create friends give you a chance to change the world help others or would it create a stress of who to help what to buy never needing to look at prices where to live how to dress where to eat fear of not being born into money and looking out of place tiredness and loneliness?

Is enough to get by the true richness

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Old Jun 17, 2014, 05:53 PM
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Over here 100 million euros is about 135 million dollars and yes it would make things much better. I'd be able to buy better insurance and get real treatment, move back to my home state and buy transportation that didn't breakdown every month. ....and oh I could afford the gas too.
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 05:55 PM
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Hello, Davyblues. I know what it is like to be broke and miserable. I would be willing to try being rich and miserable.
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 06:04 PM
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I have a lot of money and am still chronically depressed and suicidal.

So no. But I think I would be worse if I was homeless.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 12:32 AM
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Interesting question! In my case, I give a resounding, "YES!!"
Money would lift the daily burden of debt and not having enough rent, money for medication, etc. right off of my back. I could help my loved ones.

My tastes run to the spartan, so the relief a nest egg of this size would provide would absolutely give me feelings of happiness.

I believe the most valuable thing money provides is the gift of time.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 12:50 AM
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There's been periods of my life where I've felt "normal" and if you would have asked me this question a couple months ago, my answer would have been, yes. I was (still kinda am) in a bad place mentally and not even my favorite food, my dog or the people I love the most could make me smile.

If you ask the sane me then yes, the insane me then no.

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Old Jun 18, 2014, 12:53 AM
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Actually I've been told by my Pdoc, my therapist and my GP that if I didn't work I'd be 1000% better. Unfortunately without being independently wealthy I have to work. What's the alternative? I watched my hubby fight for his disability and watched how they screwed him around for YEARS. I see how people look at him when he tells them he's disabled. I'd rather work and die miserable then be on disability and have some semblance of happiness. Maybe someday I'll win the lottery.

So I'd say yes wholeheartedly money would make me happy.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 01:09 AM
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No I doubt it would make me happier, it would help with a lot of things and give me more money for spending on things I enjoy but don't need per say. But yeah I doubt it would solve all my problems.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 02:05 AM
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[QUOTE=Davyblues;3817800]I write songs and these questions help me get inspired to write future tunes.

At the car boot sale I saw lots of people with very little money but they all smiled were polite, friendly, looked content and relaxed. Later I passed an exclusive restaurant and everyone looked hurried uncomfortable constantly on their phones bored and fake.

If you won £100 million tomorrow would it make you happy? Would it cure the blues. Would riches bring a long awaited escape from loans, stress and work would it create friends give you a chance to change the world help others or would it create a stress of who to help what to buy never needing to look at prices where to live how to dress where to eat fear of not being born into money and looking out of place tiredness and loneliness?

Is enough to get by the true richness

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Money wouldn't buy me friends, wouldn't cure my depression, wouldn't fix everything, but it would allow me to not worry about the everyday money worries. So yep. Being poor is a lot of work. Try dragging 40 pounds worth of food a block from the bus stop twice a week, or walking 1.87 miles each way to and from a barely above minimum wage job. If I smile on weekends, it's because I've caught up on my exhaustion. The poor people I know don't smile much, nope, not til the weekend.

Maybe if those people in the restaurant were ever poor for a year, they'd stop to appreciate the gift that money can be, used properly. Me, if only I had a car. But (sigh) that's life.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 04:41 AM
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Not happy but solves most of my worries. I've got a lot of money issues.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 04:47 AM
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I concur.... happy is state of mind....but certainly help my mind stress less!

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Old Jun 18, 2014, 06:07 AM
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No, money doesn't make a person happy but it does give someone more options. Used wisely, money can enhance a life (i.e. decent housing, good food, travel). Used poorly, money can ruin a life (i.e. drugs, gambling, shopaholic, etc).
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 06:14 AM
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Not happy, it can't fix me (although it could provide a lot more therapy sessions than are available right now so maybe it could) but it would make things a lot easier. Lift a few burdens so to speak.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 06:45 AM
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If I can pay my bills and have my basics needs met I am more content. I hesitate to say happy as I am a depressive and happiness is rare. Contentment is a good thing though and the relief of stress is a huge thing.

I believe it has been shown, and I agree, that once your basic needs are met money does not make you any happier. The rich are not any happier than anyone else. Obviously if a homeless person gets money they will be happier.

Watch the documentary "Happy" on netflix or it may be elsewhere on the internet.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 07:30 AM
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I hope this does not come out too rudely - but I think the question is pretty silly.

How would a piece of paper make you "happy"? And money is just a piece of paper that we CHOOSE to assign a 'value' to......

Some people have money and are miserable. Some people have no money and are miserable. I guess the grass is always greener....

But the question is like the old red herring statement:
Carrots kill people. George Washing ate carrots and he is dead. Abe Lincoln ate carrots and he is dead. JFK ate carrots and he is dead.

Do carrots kill? No more than money can make you happy. The two are irrelevant.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 09:41 AM
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I would say yes for me, because I'm obsessed with the possibility of being homeless. Fear rules everything I do. I wouldn't expect it to solve but like someone else said at least i could afford therapy and be able to have better medical care.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 11:08 AM
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Having more money would certainly take some stress off, in terms of being able to afford better housing, treatment and recreation options, plus do the kind of training and traveling I would love to do to enhance my career. It would also enable me to buy good, wholesome food whenever I need it and in the quantities I need (hence my brain and mood would benefit).

Let's face it, having lots of money is not the key to happiness, but not having sufficient to supply your basic needs will surely put a damper on life.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 11:17 AM
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I hope this does not come out too rudely - but I think the question is pretty silly.

How would a piece of paper make you "happy"? And money is just a piece of paper that we CHOOSE to assign a 'value' to......

Some people have money and are miserable. Some people have no money and are miserable. I guess the grass is always greener....

But the question is like the old red herring statement:
Carrots kill people. George Washing ate carrots and he is dead. Abe Lincoln ate carrots and he is dead. JFK ate carrots and he is dead.

Do carrots kill? No more than money can make you happy. The two are irrelevant.
Unfortunately you pretty much need money to survive in the current world...not that I agree with the idea of a monetary system but the fact is its very hard to survive let alone thrive without money with which to afford basic resources let alone any kind of comfortable living. I agree it doesn't make one happy...but these days its not just a useless piece of paper unfortunately. Some people are able to get off the grid and create self sustainable living but then the materials/supplies for that costs quite a bit initially as far as I know.

Having access to basic resources, ways in which to enjoy your time, access to healthcare, access to healthy food and water is more of what contributes to happiness though even those things don't fix everything or create happiness in themselves but quality of life is a factor in happiness generally speaking the problem is money gets in the way of many people having access...except for the people who have it.
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...... generally speaking the problem is money gets in the way of many people having access...except for the people who have it.
EVERYTHING in life is a choice. Nobody "has" to have two cars, a three stall garage, DVD players, internet access, an iPhone.... those are all the traps of money.

And the "except for the people who have it" part is offensive to me. Because I earned money, I have access to happiness and because someone else didn't bother to earn it - they do not have access. Far to simplistic.
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I hope this does not come out too rudely - but I think the question is pretty silly.

How would a piece of paper make you "happy"? And money is just a piece of paper that we CHOOSE to assign a 'value' to......

Some people have money and are miserable. Some people have no money and are miserable. I guess the grass is always greener....

But the question is like the old red herring statement:
Carrots kill people. George Washing ate carrots and he is dead. Abe Lincoln ate carrots and he is dead. JFK ate carrots and he is dead.

Do carrots kill? No more than money can make you happy. The two are irrelevant.
BUT, if you can't meet your basic needs and health care money makes a huge difference in happiness. Above that level it won't buy you anymore happiness.
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EVERYTHING in life is a choice. Nobody "has" to have two cars, a three stall garage, DVD players, internet access, an iPhone.... those are all the traps of money.

And the "except for the people who have it" part is offensive to me. Because I earned money, I have access to happiness and because someone else didn't bother to earn it - they do not have access. Far to simplistic.
I wasn't talking about two cars a three stall garage, dvd players, internet access, I-phone ect per say...though as one who does like a good movie every now and then its nice to have a dvd play with which to play them on and internet access is very useful for a lot of things. But I more meant basic things like enough to eat, shelter maybe a car or access to public transportation and such since a lot of places are too far to walk in any reasonable amount of time.

Also I have mental problems so severe I cannot work and no I didn't get the chance to earn a living, become disabled and then get SSDI had to go for SSI since it interfered with my ability to work in the first place, There's times in my life growing up I wouldn't have had enough to eat if not for food stamps...what are people like me supposed to do just lay down and die as to not waste the tax dollars that come from money people earn? That is sort of what we'd be left with without such programs that and the mercy of chairity organizations and family provided they can and are willing to help a given individual but something tells me that wouldn't solve the problem. It is extremely ignorant to assume people who are poor just 'didn't bother' to earn enough. There are all kinds of barriers and many people who work their asses off still need government assistance to get by due to low wages that don't reflect inflation and probably lots of other factors...I get sick of the attitude that the poor don't deserve a better quality of life because they must be to lazy to just get up and 'earn' it....what needs to happen is society needs to do a better job of adressing the problem of wealth inequality, the fact many are falling through the cracks and try and people have their basic needs met.

Sorry to be such a burden to society and all but, yeah I think providing social welfare programs are a damn good use of tax money, sorry if you disagree. Now excuse me while I go talk to people who understand the concept of social responsibility like paying taxes and then the government using that to help the citizens of society...yes the poor and homeless are citizens to.

And yes the only way to afford things generally speaking is to have money, if one is unable to make enough money to sustain them self...there is a good chance they will have a harder time reaching any state of happiness due to barely scraping by and the stress and what not that goes along with it. I have taken psychology classes and much of time being in a bad economic situation or having limited access to resources can be a factor in mental illness due to the stress it causes.

As is now the wealthiest few have control of most of the worlds resources, while the rest of us are gradually being left to scavenge and fight over the scraps because with how people act i don't see how they'd actually find the motivation to form a potentially better society....much better to remain divided and let the pigs keep on feasting so to speak. The part that people who need government assistance due to being poor/homeless are just a burden offends me.

And no everything in life is not a choice, I did not choose to end up in the lockdown back in highschool, I did not choose to get bullied and ostracized throughout public school, I did not choose to develop mental problems, I didn't even choose to be born, people don't choose to develop cancer and AIDs and then die of the illness....many things in life are not choices lots of things people have no control over happens but I think that is enough examples for the moment.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 02:38 PM
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I wouldn't be happy i would just be relieved that i wouldn't have to worry about money problems.In my opionion money can only solve a minimum of problems
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If it wasn't for the social safety net and my family I would be sick and homeless even after working very hard for 34 years.

William James's, a famous psychologist, came up with the hierarchy of needs shaped like a pyrimad. Art and culture only exist because humans figured out how to use tools and have more leisure time.

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I write songs and these questions help me get inspired to write future tunes.

At the car boot sale I saw lots of people with very little money but they all smiled were polite, friendly, looked content and relaxed. Later I passed an exclusive restaurant and everyone looked hurried uncomfortable constantly on their phones bored and fake.

If you won £100 million tomorrow would it make you happy? Would it cure the blues. Would riches bring a long awaited escape from loans, stress and work would it create friends give you a chance to change the world help others or would it create a stress of who to help what to buy never needing to look at prices where to live how to dress where to eat fear of not being born into money and looking out of place tiredness and loneliness?

Is enough to get by the true richness

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Old Jun 19, 2014, 03:12 PM
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Thankyou for the replies.

You are all right some are rich and happy some are poor and happy but most poor would rather be rich and most rich would like to be richer.
Nummy my friend was skint and eventually got a loan for a car. He ended up with speeding fines and parking tickets lost his licence his girlfriend had a crash and said he wished he had just bought a new bicycle.

As Useless Me says the grass is always greener. I cycled to work for years and when I got a car it broke all the time cost me money and I was so unfit due to not cycling.

Well if I win the lottery on Sat I will split a million with the replies before this.

I hope you all get windfalls of cash this week!

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