[dazedandconfused0]

I have seen two different therapists, both only one time. Both of them said I have severe depression and anxiety (not sure if that counts as an official diagnosis). They told my parents about this, the self harm, and the very frequent sui thoughts. I went to see my GP/pediatrician a couple weeks ago and she also said I need to get into therapy and medication asap.

The problem is that now that I am ready to get help, my parents refuse to let me. I don't think they believe in depression. They keep telling me the oh so typical phrases such as "get over it" and "snap out of it". I need to see a therapist and do something about this because if I don't then I honestly think I will lose control and do something that I won't live to regret (literally).

I've been thinking about contacting my pediatrician and asking her to convince my parents, as talking to a school counselor is not an option. Honestly, I have no idea how I would contact her as I don't have her information but I will find a way. What do you think? Are there any other options? Such as somehow seeing a therapist/counselor who I can pay with cash (I am 17, turn 18 in June 2015) or even a free one?

Thank you
N

[Alone & confused]

Have you tried a crisis hotline or sui hotline? They might could advise you as to What to do. Or, is there another adult family member or someone you can trust that might convince your parents to get you the help you need? Some places have counseling clinics that charge based on income. WORST CASE SCENARIO, if you are SERIOUSLY planning to do harm to yourself sweetheart, I would rather you make an anonymous call to 911 if you have to to draw attention to your intentions, rather than to find out something terrible had happened to you! The police would have to take you for treatment if they thought you were suicidal and MAYBE then your parents would take you seriously. Where I'm from we have lost SEVERAL kids this year in my town this year alone and it is SO sad every time I hear about it! I am FOR SAVING EVERY LIFE WE CAN because I've seen first hand the pain and devastation it causes the families, friends, as well as the communities! So please get help one way or another and let us help you here at PC as much as we can! We care about you! Much love! ♡♡♡

[Frankbtl]

Hi dazedandconfused, excellent post from Alone and confused up there.............so not much to say................
Just............whether the diagnosis's were official or not, you don't need official (any!!) diagnosis's to need help, the symptoms/feelings/thoughts kind of speak for themselves
And of course your G.P/pediatrician has suggested that anyway.
And I've so got to commend you on wanting/wanting to reach out for help, takes real strength to admit/say you need help!!!!
It is a really good idea to find a way to contact your G.P/pediatrician if you can (you may even find a phone number online) as they seem to understand, and to be taking things seriously.
And as for helplines- for out of hours- you might find one that works for you in one of these links:
Suicide Hotlines - Suicide.org! Suicide Hotlines - Suicide.org! Suicide Hotlines - Suicide.org!
https://www.dosomething.org/about/hotline-list
American Hotlines and Helplines for Kids and Teens - USA - A Service of the Kids in Trouble Help Page
Teen Health and Wellness
Sorry if some of the numbers overlap, but as well as giving you support they may also be able to help with advising on finding a T under the circumstances.
And you know if the first one.......two........three.........aren't that helpful anyway, you keep on trying, OK???!!!!
Different people can find different helplines suit them more, can depend on the individual.
Just don't forget you're worth, and you deserve real help with what you're going through!!!!
And don't forget, we're here for you too!!!!

Alison

[vital]

Originally Posted by dazedandconfused0

I've been thinking about contacting my pediatrician and asking her to convince my parents...
N

That sounds like the best plan to me. I am sure that your pediatrician will understand and will either be able to convince your parents (which I think it quite likely) or advise you about what to do next.

- vital

[dazedandconfused0]

Originally Posted by Alone & confused

Have you tried a crisis hotline or sui hotline? They might could advise you as to What to do. Or, is there another adult family member or someone you can trust that might convince your parents to get you the help you need? Some places have counseling clinics that charge based on income. WORST CASE SCENARIO, if you are SERIOUSLY planning to do harm to yourself sweetheart, I would rather you make an anonymous call to 911 if you have to to draw attention to your intentions, rather than to find out something terrible had happened to you! The police would have to take you for treatment if they thought you were suicidal and MAYBE then your parents would take you seriously. Where I'm from we have lost SEVERAL kids this year in my town this year alone and it is SO sad every time I hear about it! I am FOR SAVING EVERY LIFE WE CAN because I've seen first hand the pain and devastation it causes the families, friends, as well as the communities! So please get help one way or another and let us help you here at PC as much as we can! We care about you! Much love! ♡♡♡

Thank you for the reply

I don't know... sui hotlines are for people who are in actual trouble, you know. I can't get in someone's way. I have tried a crisis text messaging thing, a few times actually. Honestly, it didn't help.

I have been considering contacting my older brother, I haven't spoken to him in a while but I don't know... it may help?

Also, I really do appreciate your advice and support. You are very kind

[dazedandconfused0]

Originally Posted by Frankbtl

Hi dazedandconfused, excellent post from Alone and confused up there.............so not much to say................
Just............whether the diagnosis's were official or not, you don't need official (any!!) diagnosis's to need help, the symptoms/feelings/thoughts kind of speak for themselves
And of course your G.P/pediatrician has suggested that anyway.
And I've so got to commend you on wanting/wanting to reach out for help, takes real strength to admit/say you need help!!!!
It is a really good idea to find a way to contact your G.P/pediatrician if you can (you may even find a phone number online) as they seem to understand, and to be taking things seriously.
And as for helplines- for out of hours- you might find one that works for you in one of these links:
Suicide Hotlines - Suicide.org! Suicide Hotlines - Suicide.org! Suicide Hotlines - Suicide.org!
https://www.dosomething.org/about/hotline-list
American Hotlines and Helplines for Kids and Teens - USA - A Service of the Kids in Trouble Help Page
Teen Health and Wellness
Sorry if some of the numbers overlap, but as well as giving you support they may also be able to help with advising on finding a T under the circumstances.
And you know if the first one.......two........three.........aren't that helpful anyway, you keep on trying, OK???!!!!
Different people can find different helplines suit them more, can depend on the individual.
Just don't forget you're worth, and you deserve real help with what you're going through!!!!
And don't forget, we're here for you too!!!!

Alison

Thank you for the reply

The only way to contact my pediatrician would be by calling the main office and probably having to talk to a nurse. I am extremely nervous. Also, would it be strange if I asked her to not tell my parents about this appointment or is that a normal thing to do?

Thanks a lot for the help

[Altered Moment]

If you are having suicidal thoughts and self harming than that is serious.

Somehow educating your parents is a good strategy for now. It is not uncommon for a doctor, psychiatrist, or therapist to meet with parents to educate them. Also if you can get them to read anything on it online. Parents can be in denial. Fighting for your well being and self advocating is hard but something we have to learn to do.

Depression Symptoms, Information and Treatment - Psych Central

Types & Symptoms of Depression | Psych Central

[Idiot17]

Originally Posted by dazedandconfused0

I have seen two different therapists, both only one time. Both of them said I have severe depression and anxiety (not sure if that counts as an official diagnosis). They told my parents about this, the self harm, and the very frequent sui thoughts. I went to see my GP/pediatrician a couple weeks ago and she also said I need to get into therapy and medication asap.

The problem is that now that I am ready to get help, my parents refuse to let me. I don't think they believe in depression. They keep telling me the oh so typical phrases such as "get over it" and "snap out of it". I need to see a therapist and do something about this because if I don't then I honestly think I will lose control and do something that I won't live to regret (literally).
N

Seems just like something I would have written a couple years back. I too went to see therapists and they wanted me to go to a p doc to be officially diagnosed with depression and I needed meds then immediately to slow my sui thoughts and sh. Yet when they spoke to my parents about it they turned and ran and dragged me along. They won't allow me to visit any doctor alone anymore without their authorization. They are paranoid and don't believe in depression.

If you're still in school try to grab the chance and speak to your guidance counselor. Seek the help needed. Once you're out of school it's that much harder to deal with it. If your pediatrician is on your side try to have them too work it for you. ( my pediatrician sided with parents).

Lots of luck.

[Gray Rider]

Check to see if there are any mental health crisis clinics in your area. This may allow you to get a free eval and medication. If the thoughts turn into a plan of harming yourself just go to the emergency room and let them know. You are not alone in this.