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Old Mar 07, 2016, 07:39 AM
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I need a valium thread---- needs to have a trigger...
I made the mistake of suggesting that everyone needs a valium..i was wrong
I need a valium...I am angry at the way mental health is being handled in America...but that is not going to help me about that problem..

actually I see the problem of people being drugged by doctors...and people drugging themselves for problems that drugs wont SOLVE..

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Old Mar 07, 2016, 01:22 PM
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well.. drugs wont solve anything...
but it just hopefully help us to get to the next day - where we may find a solution...

currently i can't get anything from my GP... dunno why she just doesnt want to...
she said my case is complicated and i really just need a psychiatrist to really help; being a GP she just isnt comfortable with me i guess...

all i wanted was some klonopin or valium to help me get to april..

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Old Mar 07, 2016, 02:38 PM
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Ugh. been there with a GP as I'm sure many have
And of course they vary with their level of "ineptitude" >??< and that is putting it politely But there are some GP's who want to help and do have some expertise ... In my experience these are rare

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well.. drugs wont solve anything...
but it just hopefully help us to get to the next day - where we may find a solution...

currently i can't get anything from my GP... dunno why she just doesnt want to...
she said my case is complicated and i really just need a psychiatrist to really help; being a GP she just isnt comfortable with me i guess...

all i wanted was some klonopin or valium to help me get to april..

be safe...
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Old Mar 07, 2016, 02:57 PM
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personally valium helped me a lot...but I never took more than prescribed...I took it for years along with an anti-depressant....I hate taking meds...I hate seeing a psychiatrist...but it helped me make it through my life ....I survived and also had some fun..i don't take valium now on a regular basis....I have a mental illness...
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personally valium helped me a lot...but I never took more than prescribed...I took it for years along with an anti-depressant....I hate taking meds...I hate seeing a psychiatrist...but it helped me make it through my life ....I survived and also had some fun..i don't take valium now on a regular basis....I have a mental illness...
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Old Mar 09, 2016, 09:25 AM
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well I didn't take that valium....I do not want or need to go back to regular use..
now I need to find alternatives to treat myself when I am in a BAD ANGRY MOOD..
I am retired...when I worked I needed that valium prescribed by my psychiatrist...
I am a very emotional moody person...when I am angry I find something to blame...but when the energy goes away I turn on myself....little turtle
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Old Mar 09, 2016, 05:46 PM
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yeah it can be easy to start relying on them - thats why i decided to take a break from the klonopin a year or 2 ago but the plan was to just take a break.. month or 2 and if i wanted or needed to resume... but they wouldn't give them back - which was one of the reasons i left the old mental health clinic i was going to... some of them doctors are quacks...

i used a bit more than prescribed but i was on them for a few years and talked to them about increasing the dose from .5mg to 1mg 1-2 times a day but they wouldnt.. so i end up running out before the month was over...
but i never tried to get more or beg or whatever ...(malingering?) just thought it was weird they would let me take them for so long and not increase the dose or understand that i need an increase...
benzo = one of the only drugs i been on that help... just build tolerance to them... so why wouldnt they let me take something that actually help instead of loading me up on APs? i dunno..

i used to have alot of rage when i was younger.. now days i bottle alot of it up, but try to release it in other ways...
i guess a good way would be just trying to get away from everyone and listening to a good song you really like, or something that expresses how you feel in a safe way...
i play music and video games ... try to - when i can... which really isnt often because of how i feel, but gotta try sometimes...

but its alot easier to take a benzo and listen to a song to try to calm down than it is to just listen to a song by itself :/
personally my mind wont shut up for anything... i guess because i have ADHD...

gotta discover something that can work for you - that is safe and not harmful hopefully
maybe knowing that you aren't the only one that would feel angry at those times might help ? i know alot of stuff annoys me :/
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Old Mar 09, 2016, 06:00 PM
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yeah it can be easy to start relying on them - thats why i decided to take a break from the klonopin a year or 2 ago but the plan was to just take a break.. month or 2 and if i wanted or needed to resume... but they wouldn't give them back - which was one of the reasons i left the old mental health clinic i was going to... some of them doctors are quacks...

i used a bit more than prescribed but i was on them for a few years and talked to them about increasing the dose from .5mg to 1mg 1-2 times a day but they wouldnt.. so i end up running out before the month was over...
but i never tried to get more or beg or whatever ...(malingering?) just thought it was weird they would let me take them for so long and not increase the dose or understand that i need an increase...
benzo = one of the only drugs i been on that help... just build tolerance to them... so why wouldnt they let me take something that actually help instead of loading me up on APs? i dunno..

i used to have alot of rage when i was younger.. now days i bottle alot of it up, but try to release it in other ways...
i guess a good way would be just trying to get away from everyone and listening to a good song you really like, or something that expresses how you feel in a safe way...
i play music and video games ... try to - when i can... which really isnt often because of how i feel, but gotta try sometimes...

but its alot easier to take a benzo and listen to a song to try to calm down than it is to just listen to a song by itself :/
personally my mind wont shut up for anything... i guess because i have ADHD...

gotta discover something that can work for you - that is safe and not harmful hopefully
maybe knowing that you aren't the only one that would feel angry at those times might help ? i know alot of stuff annoys me :/
a lot of stuff annoys me too...
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I need a valium thread---- needs to have a trigger...
I made the mistake of suggesting that everyone needs a valium..i was wrong
I need a valium...I am angry at the way mental health is being handled in America...but that is not going to help me about that problem..

actually I see the problem of people being drugged by doctors...and people drugging themselves for problems that drugs wont SOLVE..
I assumed you meant that figuratively. As in... take a chill pill
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Old Mar 23, 2016, 08:11 AM
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why are people so down on valium...it was very valuable for me in my treatment over the years....
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Old Mar 23, 2016, 08:24 AM
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It took me 4 years of periods of horrible anxiety and paranoia to get my p-doc to prescribe klonopin. They have a very anti benzo policy and he tried everything but a benzo first and they were all useless. There are very real dangers with benzos and it was a hard decision for me to make. I decided I needed it as the anxiety and paranoia were putting me a great risk for suicide. Depression I can deal with but not that. Klonopin has worked like a miracle. I take it exactly as prescribed. I am a recovering addict so even more risk but I have not had any desire to abuse it. I am more worried about long term use and withdrawal. Two years is getting to be too long and I should be taking it only PNR.
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Old Mar 23, 2016, 08:26 AM
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The whole psychiatric community is trying to cut way back on benzo use it seems to me because of the dangers of addiction and withdrawal. The problem is nothing else works near as good as benzo's.
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Old Mar 23, 2016, 09:03 AM
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The whole psychiatric community is trying to cut way back on benzo use it seems to me because of the dangers of addiction and withdrawal. The problem is nothing else works near as good as benzo's.
benzos work good for me..they are cheap...we know how they work
good track record for me...
the newer anti-psychotic drugs are expensive...
if you aren't psychotic why would you take them...
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Old Mar 23, 2016, 11:47 AM
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i completely understand altered moment...

the second GP i saw about my depression and anxiety put me on Zoloft and klonopin (0.5mg) right off the bat... i was on them for a couple years... they helped so much more than anything else i have tried... i just built a tolerance...

i have tried other antianxiety medicines.. antidepressants... drugs...
benzos work though... i only like the valium and klonopin though... xanax and ativan dont do anything for me... i haven't tried any other ones and i dont know if they even prescribe them in the usa..?

i love klonopin/valium... and would rather be addicted to them than live like this...
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I've had only one low-dose Valium many yrs ago in prep for a LASIK procedure - since then, I can definitely appreciate the saying "I need a Valium!"
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Old Mar 24, 2016, 06:44 AM
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I just took 5mg of valium....I needed to have a little recovery time after 4 very successful stressful days....today I am not as busy....I hope I am using valium not abusing it....I think it is helpful for me...I also had 10 mg celexa earlier...I think it is a good combo to calm me down.....I would rather take valium than that abilify that I see on tv....I am not psychotic....why would I ever take that abilify...I would need to be psychotic...this is from the old mentally ill doctor
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i think you would need to be taking 30..50mg valium to be abusing... dont worry...
i dont think taking it is a bad thing.. we need the relief sometimes...
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Old Mar 25, 2016, 08:49 AM
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i think you would need to be taking 30..50mg valium to be abusing... dont worry...
i dont think taking it is a bad thing.. we need the relief sometimes...
good stuff soul....use it not abuse it...I love valium...yes
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