mental illness is awful

I have to do the tests.once I get the reports, I can give you the numbers.But I still cant get out of my house and go to the lab.

I am logging off now. It's around 10pm in India now. I want to rest. Cya tmrw

Check out this short article about psych drugs myths. This is one of the most succinct and common sense summaries of the whole biz of psychotropic drugs i have seen. The first myth address the chemical imbalance issue.

Myths about antidepressants & antipsychotics | Dr. David Healy

"These drugs [SSRIs] alter the level of synaptic transmission beyond the physiologic range achieved under normal environmental/biological conditions. Thus, any behavioral or physiologic change produced under these conditions might more appropriately be considered pathologic, rather than reflective of the normal biological role of 5-HT [serotonin]." -- Princeton neuroscientist Barry Jacobs PhD, in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry

In other words, SSRIs introduce pathology in the brain where no known pathology previously existed.

"The psychiatric profession has finally come clean and confessed on a national media outlet that there is no evidence to support the Serotonin Theory of Depression. Today, on NPR’s Morning Edition there is a segment about the chemical imbalance theory, and virtually all the psychiatrists who are interviewed acknowledge that the there was never any evidence in support of the idea that low serotonin causes depression. But then, amazingly, they go on to say that it is perfectly fine to tell patients that serotonin imbalance causes depression even though they know this isn’t the case." -- JONATHAN LEO, PHD / JEFFREY LACASSE, PHD

My thyroid etc was "normal" apparently
And the doctor prescribed seroquel/Serokill

fuzzy please find out what your thyroid numbers were...
especially when you are taking seroquel you also need to know your fasting blood glucose...if I am bugging you too much tell me to shut up...please

Thanks little turtle I think those should have been tested (maybe they were, they do not encourage "patient awareness" here, we have to almost "play dumb" to get any "help" or not to "make the doctor angry grrrrrr" {wtf}
You're not bugging me too much

From what i've learned, many mainstream GP type docs do not know how to diagnose thyroid problems. They will check one thyroid marker on a blood test, and if normal, will pronounce the patient thyroid healthy. But there are multiple markers and interpreting them is not always straightforward. Also some thyroid ailments might need to be diagnosed a different way, such as with body temperature, or symptomatically.

What about low dopamine?

Well if SSRIs alter the level of synaptic transmission beyond the physiologic range achieved under normal environmental/biological conditions, they should dramatically improve depression. But they dont. See my case. I have been depreseed since my standard10 and started taking SSRIs around 1995-96, as far as I can remember.

What if patients read this morn edition?

Do I do only a TSH or do I do all of T3, T4 and TSH?

I think the point of that quote is to demonstrate that SSRIs do not resolve some existing imbalance. They create one. And as he said, it is more accurate to call this effect pathological rather than corrective. How that affects people is a different conversation I guess, but people should not be given a false conception about depression, because then they cannot make informed decisions.

I would like you to see an endocrinologist.....

Ohk I will. I used to see one a long time back. Now my cardiologist takes care of this.

Gee I was trying to be funny. Imagine the patients reading that the doc knows that serotonin imbalance is not the cause but still says that its ok to tell the patients so.

Oh, sorry I missed that you were trying to be funny.

Yes the thing about docs telling the patients that anyway… wow that is some serious deception. I guess the patient's well being must be sacrificed in the name of keeping the system running. Scary. Caveat emptor. We must challenge and question our doctors, and if necessary, fire them.

I've fired a few doctors. It's so freakin tiring, their junk

My last psychiatrist was getting more and more weird and on my last visit he was totally nuts. He advised to give me clopixol injection when I had no agitation and was quite depressd. So I had no option but to leave him. My current psychiatrist is a nice empathetic guy.

How are you?

well.. im ok i guess... i have my moments... im just dissociating a lot i guess, which maybe a blessing in a curse... i dont even know what is going on right now, but atleast i am not bleeding and crying

i'll just be staring off into who knows where, eyes probably glassed over, until i realize and snap back in, and out, and in, and i just end up feeling disorientated and confused... i just didnt realize that it could get like this...
i am in such a weird place... i dont even know who i am

but i am stubborn, so so so stubborn.. so i am ok, things will work out some how.. i just have to figure things out... figure out whats going on.. and take it one step at a time...

we can get better, recovery is possible, if we just be strong, focus on the goal, the future can be bright... the smile can be genuine
just must have strength and preserver

i will not lose, i will not give up, i refuse with every cell in my body... even though half of the cells are like dude your @#%* crazy, give up already!
i wont

i just hate being confused grrrr

keep fighting!!!!

BudFox and Little turtle, where are you?

I have been v v depressed for the past few days. Seems as if I m immersed in a sea of depression.I think I need help.

I need help also....you can get feeling alone pretty quick....