mental illness is awful

Jun 18, 2016, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by little turtle

I need help also....you can get feeling alone pretty quick....

What do you do when severe depression sets in suddenly? Do I stick in there and keep on trying? And you are right, I am feeling lonely too.

BTW why do you need help?

little turtle · Jun 18, 2016, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Desiree2006

What do you do when severe depression sets in suddenly? Do I stick in there and keep on trying? And you are right, I am feeling lonely too.

BTW why do you need help?

how severe is your depression...what is causing it...what does your doc say..
you are talking about it ...that is good...what are you scared of...

I am lonely....my family does not want to hear anything about mental illness..
and I am extremely frustrated in my community...I try to help...I can help...but they do not want to listen about health and what it takes to be healthy...

Jun 18, 2016, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by little turtle

how severe is your depression...what is causing it...what does your doc say..
you are talking about it ...that is good...what are you scared of...

I am lonely....my family does not want to hear anything about mental illness..
and I am extremely frustrated in my community...I try to help...I can help...but they do not want to listen about health and what it takes to be healthy...

For the past 4-5 days it has been pretty bad for me. I have not been able to get out of bed very often.I had been doing a little better before that. I am really not scared of anything much, coz being afraid doesnt help.

Sorry to hear that you are lonely. Your family ought to pay you more attention. As for your community, they are being foolish. They love living like robots in an unhealthy way and dont even realize that they are unhealthy. They dont want change, to be able to be healthy and normal human beings again. It's nice of you that you still try to make them conscious.

BTW about brain inflammation, just now I read an article in Science Daily. It says that brain inflammation decreases the communication between certain brain areas in the reward pathways and that may lead to depression. The researcher was planning to test whether L-DOPA, a medicine that targets the brain chemical dopamine, can increase connectivity in reward-related brain regions in patients with high-inflammation depression. But this was in Nov, 2015, so they may have come up with something by now.

little turtle · Jun 18, 2016, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Desiree2006

For the past 4-5 days it has been pretty bad for me. I have not been able to get out of bed very often.I had been doing a little better before that. I am really not scared of anything much, coz being afraid doesnt help.

Sorry to hear that you are lonely. Your family ought to pay you more attention. As for your community, they are being foolish. They love living like robots in an unhealthy way and dont even realize that they are unhealthy. They dont want change, to be able to be healthy and normal human beings again. It's nice of you that you still try to make them conscious.

BTW about brain inflammation, just now I read an article in Science Daily. It says that brain inflammation decreases the communication between certain brain areas in the reward pathways and that may lead to depression. The researcher was planning to test whether L-DOPA, a medicine that targets the brain chemical dopamine, can increase connectivity in reward-related brain regions in patients with high-inflammation depression. But this was in Nov, 2015, so they may have come up with something by now.

when do you see your therapist again

Jun 18, 2016, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by little turtle

when do you see your therapist again

Oh that's what I meant to tell you but I forgot. My appo with my psychiatrist is on the 24th of this month and today is the 18th.. I also meant to tell you that I am not suicidal now, in fact I am absolutely against harming myself. However it was not like this when I was younger. There have been episodes of deliberate self-harm and suicide in the past. But now this aspect of my depression has improved.

little turtle · Jun 18, 2016, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Desiree2006

Oh that's what I meant to tell you but I forgot. My appo with my psychiatrist is on the 24th of this month and today is the 18th.. I also meant to tell you that I am not suicidal now, in fact I am absolutely against harming myself. However it was not like this when I was younger. There have been episodes of deliberate self-harm and suicide in the past. But now this aspect of my depression has improved.

how often do you see your psychiatrist....do you also see a therapist

Jun 18, 2016, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by little turtle

how often do you see your psychiatrist....do you also see a therapist

Now I see my psychiatrist once a month coz of my severe symptoms.

No I dont see a therapist. Here therapists are not so good. At least that's my opinion.

little turtle · Jun 18, 2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Desiree2006

Now I see my psychiatrist once a month coz of my severe symptoms.

No I dont see a therapist. Here therapists are not so good. At least that's my opinion.

what is it like there ...about therapists

Jun 18, 2016, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by little turtle

what is it like there ...about therapists

CBT is not so structured here and the therapist doesnt give adequate time. The session should be at least 40mins, but the therapist most of the times doesnt give more than 20-25mins

Fuzzybear · Jun 18, 2016, 01:54 PM

little turtle · Jun 18, 2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Desiree2006

CBT is not so structured here and the therapist doesnt give adequate time. The session should be at least 40mins, but the therapist most of the times doesnt give more than 20-25mins

I am sorry you are feeling bad....it is hard to get a trusted therapist

Jun 18, 2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by little turtle

I am sorry you are feeling bad....it is hard to get a trusted therapist

It's not about not trusting the therapist, but it's that I am not happy with his/her therapy service. I feel he/she doesnt know her stuff properly and is also not sincere. But then I have been to 4 therapists only all my life. So that's not many.

Jun 18, 2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by little turtle

I am sorry you are feeling bad....it is hard to get a trusted therapist

It's almost 1am here, little turtle. I feel sleepy. Want to sleep now. So bye bye for today and take care.

elevatedsoul · Jun 18, 2016, 03:23 PM

im sorry that you are struggling...
i know mental health can be a difficult thing to get help for...
definitely keep fighting... i've heard so many things, that people say, to try to make us feel better.. and i know that words can only do so much, unless the words come from inside ourselves... they mean more when it resonates with us, when we can agree with what we hear... and its not easy to just agree with "things will improve.. keep fighting" ..
always makes me feel worse to hear those things... so i dont talk about things anymore... i talk to myself constantly, i help myself... keep myself company... am my friend... but i also have the enemy inside too, but i try to avoid...

i like reading... reading abstract things...
we mustn't give up... must keep fighting with the last bit of strength we have.. because maybe, just maybe, we are almost out of this torturous pit of despair... maybe, just maybe we have just enough strength to get out and then have a good rest... to finally enjoy ourselves...
much love...

The Farmer's Donkey: A Fable for Our Time

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One day a farmer's donkey fell down into a well. The animal cried piteously for hours as the farmer tried to figure out a way to get him out. Finally he decided it was probably impossible and the animal was old and the well was dry anyway, so it just wasn't worth it to try and retrieve the donkey. So the farmer asked his neighbors to come over and help him cover up the well. They all grabbed shovels and began to shovel dirt into the well.

At first, when the donkey realized what was happening he cried horribly. Then, to everyone's amazement, he quieted down and let out some happy brays. A few shovel loads later, the farmer looked down the well to see what was happening and was astonished at what he saw. With every shovel of dirt that hit his back, the donkey was shaking it off and taking a step up. (Shifting)

As the farmer's neighbors continued to shovel dirt on top of the animal, he continued to shake it off and take a step up. Pretty soon, to everyone's amazement, the donkey stepped up over the edge of the well and trotted off!

Moral: Life is going to shovel dirt on you. The trick to getting out of the well is to shake it off and take a step up. Every adversity can be turned into a stepping stone. The way to get out of the deepest well is by never giving up but by shaking yourself off and taking a step up.

What happens to you isn't nearly as important as how you react to it.

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The Farmer's Donkey: A Fable for Our Time

little turtle · Jun 18, 2016, 04:45 PM

can I be the donkey....my wife would say jackass

02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elevatedsoul

im sorry that you are struggling...
i know mental health can be a difficult thing to get help for...
definitely keep fighting... i've heard so many things, that people say, to try to make us feel better.. and i know that words can only do so much, unless the words come from inside ourselves... they mean more when it resonates with us, when we can agree with what we hear... and its not easy to just agree with "things will improve.. keep fighting" ..
always makes me feel worse to hear those things... so i dont talk about things anymore... i talk to myself constantly, i help myself... keep myself company... am my friend... but i also have the enemy inside too, but i try to avoid...

i like reading... reading abstract things...
we mustn't give up... must keep fighting with the last bit of strength we have.. because maybe, just maybe, we are almost out of this torturous pit of despair... maybe, just maybe we have just enough strength to get out and then have a good rest... to finally enjoy ourselves...
much love...

The Farmer's Donkey: A Fable for Our Time

The Farmer's Donkey: A Fable for Our Time

Thanks Elevatedsoul. That was nice. You all help me a lot. Love ...

Jun 19, 2016, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by little turtle

can I be the donkey....my wife would say jackass

I want to be this particular donkey too.

handheart · Jun 19, 2016, 03:26 AM

Yes you are totaly right .Fortunatelly this times we can found a lot of help online we have a lot of people with experience and can show us the road or simply can recomend us a good solution

little turtle · Jun 19, 2016, 05:24 AM

TRIGGER WARNING----I just saw an article at nbc news about the lack of child psychiatrists...a lot of kids are depressed and suicidal....psychiatrists give drugs...not many talk anymore...we are trying to treat complex family problems with drugs.....I don't think this is going to work out well...we have a lot of problems that we are not facing....that in itself is depressing

Jun 19, 2016, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by little turtle

TRIGGER WARNING----I just saw an article at nbc news about the lack of child psychiatrists...a lot of kids are depressed and suicidal....psychiatrists give drugs...not many talk anymore...we are trying to treat complex family problems with drugs.....I don't think this is going to work out well...we have a lot of problems that we are not facing....that in itself is depressing

I had heard that talking also creates new circuits and modifies existing faulty circuits in the brain. And we dont know the exact physiology and anatomy that
creates faulty cognitions and behaviour that may lead to suicidal behaviour. So we also dont know the exact drugs that may work. The docs may as well try talking along with prescribing meds.

Fuzzybear · Jun 19, 2016, 08:33 AM

I think little turtle is sleeping in his pond

Fuzzybear · Jun 19, 2016, 08:52 AM

This is very depressing...
My childhood was abusive

. I was given no help, no talk therapy..

Psychiatrists just giving drugs, totally sucks..

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Originally Posted by little turtle

TRIGGER WARNING----I just saw an article at nbc news about the lack of child psychiatrists...a lot of kids are depressed and suicidal....psychiatrists give drugs...not many talk anymore...we are trying to treat complex family problems with drugs.....I don't think this is going to work out well...we have a lot of problems that we are not facing....that in itself is depressing

elevatedsoul · Jun 19, 2016, 10:30 AM

i know that im as stubborn as a Mule, i cant let them bury me alive

my entire life has been traumatic as well.. and the psychiatrist i was seeing didn't touch it with a thousand foot pole i think... although i cant really remember any of the meetings, i just know they kept pushing bipolar dx and saying i was manic and increasing antipsychotics and adding moodstabilizers... apparently im highly tolerant to just about anything the world can put into my body so it seems these meds didn't have much of any effect... even the sedation wore off completely and insomnia returned like after a year or around a year of being on them... which i just cant understand how you can be so drugged and still not sleep at all... but i guess thats what night terrors will do to you

if the psychiatrist would of talked more, listened more, asked more questions, he would of realized that he can't medicate away the trauma that is deeply embedded into my mind...

but it seems they want to take a strictly chemical approach and believe they can fix everything by adding or changing some chemicals in the brain.. probably soon they are going to create a medicine called curitall and try to push it on everyone that is not even sick but they will say they are sick and that this medicine will cure it all and prevent any of it from occurring... which probably will just drive the entire population insane... Zombie Apocalypse..?

i wish they would set new rules for doctors to require them to talk with the individuals more so that they can know more about the individual... so that treatment can be individualized... specialized for the one person... this is not a 1 shoe fits all ordeal...

i hope that the mental health field is revamped soon..

https://www.mikeholt.com/thoughts-en...-butterfly.php

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A young mother and father found a cocoon of a butterfly. One day a small opening appeared. They sat and watched the butterfly for several hours as it struggled to force its body through that little opening. Then it seemed like the butterfly stopped making any progress. It appeared as if it had gotten as far as it could, and it could go no further. So to help the butterfly, the young wife (with the husbands encouragement) took a pair of small scissors and snipped off the remaining bit of the cocoon. The butterfly then emerged easily, however, it had a swollen body and small, shriveled wings.

The pair continued to watch the butterfly because they expected that, at any moment, the wings would enlarge and expand to support the body, which would contract in time. Neither happened! In fact, the butterfly spent the rest of its life crawling around with a swollen body and shriveled wings. Sadly, it never was able to fly and become the butterfly God intended.

What the young couple, in their kindness and haste, did not understand was that the restricting cocoon and the struggle required for the butterfly to get through the tiny opening was God's way of forcing fluid from the body of the butterfly into its wings so that it would be ready for flight once it achieved its freedom from the cocoon.

Sometimes struggles are exactly what we need in our lives. If God allowed us to go through life without any obstacles, it would cripple us. We would not become molded as God intended, and we would not develop to become the person that God designed. We could never fly!

I asked for Strength.........And God gave me Difficulties to make me strong.
I asked for Wisdom.........And God gave me Problems to solve.
I asked for Prosperity......And God gave me Brain and Brawn to work.
I asked for Courage.........And God gave me Danger to overcome.
I asked for Love......And God gave me Troubled people to help.
I asked for Favors.......And God gave me Opportunities.

I received nothing I wanted, just everything I needed!

I pray your feet will never stumble out of God's plan and that you gain Wisdom and grow in the Lord everyday.

https://www.mikeholt.com/thoughts-en...f-the-frog.php

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A group of frogs were hopping contentedly through the woods, going about their froggy business, when two of them fell into a deep pit. All of the other frogs gathered around the pit to see what could be done to help their companions. When they saw how deep the pit was, they agreed that it was hopeless and told the two frogs in the pit that they should prepare themselves for their fate, because they were as good as dead.

Unwilling to accept this terrible fate, the two frogs began to jump with all of their might. Some of the frogs shouted into the pit that it was hopeless, and that the two frogs wouldn't be in that situation if they had been more careful, more obedient to the froggy rules, and more responsible.

The other frogs continued sorrowfully shouting that they should save their energy and give up, since they were already as good as dead. The two frogs continued jumping with all their might, and after several hours of this, were quite weary. Finally, one of the frogs took heed to the calls of his fellow frogs. Exhausted, he quietly resolved himself to his fate, laid down at the bottom of the pit, and died. The other frog continued to jump as hard as he could, although his body was wracked with pain and he was quite exhausted.

Once again, his companions began yelling for him to accept his fate, stop the pain and just die. The weary frog jumped harder and harder and, wonder of wonders, finally leaped so high that he sprang from the pit.

Amazed, the other frogs celebrated his freedom and then gathering around him asked, "Why did you continue jumping when we told you it was impossible?"

The astonished frog explained to them that he was deaf, and as he saw their gestures and shouting, he thought they were cheering him on. What he had perceived as encouragement inspired him to try harder and to succeed against all odds.

This simple story contains a powerful lesson. The book of Proverbs says, "There is death and life in the power of the tongue." Your encouraging words can lift someone up and help them make it through the day. Your destructive words can cause deep wounds; they may be the weapons that destroy someone's desire to continue trying -- or even their life. Your destructive, careless word can diminish someone in the eyes of others, destroy their influence and have a lasting impact on the way others respond to them.

Be careful what you say. Speak life to (and about) those who cross your path. There is enormous power in words. If you have words of kindness, praise or encouragement -- speak them now to, and about, others. Listen to your heart and respond.

Someone, somewhere, is waiting for your kind and encouraging words...

nice stories... i like these stories