DARKNESS, and working???

I'm working on forgiving both myself and others. Big job. Long job. Is it ever possible to forgive the "others"? I don't know

But I'm still in a dark corner of a cave somewhere far from home and I have no friggin clue how to get back!!!!

I have a candle and a flashlight... would like them?

I think this is a worthy endeavor. I also think that the two are not mutually exclusive, and that they are both different types of "forgiveness." You are absolutely right about it being work though, imo.

I know it certainly is a difficult task. I continually try every second of every day to forgive myself. I give away my forgiveness for others like its candy. I wish you good thoughts and lots of luck!!

Take care,
Dee

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I need the candle and the flashlight, thanks oh wise friend!
xoxo

"I give away my forgiveness for others like its candy"

Then, my dear, you are a GOOD, wonderful person! And do not let any jerk or moron tell you different!

This is NOT to say that those who struggle with forgiveness are NOT GOOD.

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Forgiving ourselves is one of the hardest but rewarding things to learn to do. To forgive another also reaps great benefits for our own self.

I don't believe you have to forgive another unless they ask for you to. That doesn't mean you shouldn't. To harbor any emotion connected with an open problem often eats away at our core, and doesn't harm anyone but our own self! So to forgive another, even if we don't tell them, is a good thing. If we can tell the other, then it might work a miracle in them too.

I say you don't have to forgive the other person(s) nor tell them because it probably won't do them any good unless they want it. To tell someone you forgive them when they don't think they need it only irritates them. It also might give them cause to misjudge you as someone who is arrogant, and judging them.

It is work. It's good work. Good work well worth the effort, imo.

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i had to forgive myself for something that happened a long time ago, which i will not go into. yeah, it was work, and i did find peace. it's really difficult to explain how i did it, but there's no surefire way except to find your way to self-forgiveness and forgiving others, i think.

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When one door closes another one opens and lets light shin in. Find that door, its got your name on it.

i just posted on forgiveness today in relationships. I don't know, Fuzzybear, I don't know how to know when one has forgiven. I don't know if its possible to feel hurt and be forgiving at the same time, or if you have to be all healed to experience forgiveness. I just don't know.

If you figure it out, please let me know, OK?

Thank you all!!
Love,
Fuzzy


Wants2 if I work it out I will tell you!!

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Can you hear us, listen. Hugggs are commin at ya.......

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I to have extra flashlights

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I am thinking of you, fuzzy, as I relate to what you've posted here re-forgiveness. The hardest thing for me is to forgive myself, as I take the blame even if it's not my fault, feeling I should have been more discerning and smarter than to get into hurtful situations. So....working on forgiving myself is the only challenge I've ever dealt with in my rather long existence. I've never felt the need to work at forgiving someone else, and once I've faced my own responsibility in it (even if I was a victim), the self-forgiveness evolves slowly. It IS a very slow process, and I also go to my "cave" frequently. I'm talking years....to achieve this, though wishing all the while there was a rapid "fix." There isn't! But once time and work has achieved self-acceptance and self-forgiveness, I am able to move on. Wishing the same for you, dear!
Patty

Thanks so much for sharing your experience Patty, and for your support!!

The forgiveness route is a hard one. It's not easy 'cause you can say that you forgive but until you feel it inside your heart-it means nothing. That's what I'm having trouble with. It's in my mind logically to forgive but my heart keeps feeling like it wants to kick that person I'm trying to forgive in the stomache.

It may be better just to stay inside the cave and make it your own, Fuzz. Sometimes "home" is way over rated.

I know what you mean Pickle, thanks for replying