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Old Apr 20, 2017, 11:38 AM
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all kinds of crap gets shoved down our throats, ssri's, antipshychotic's, snri's, trcicicylic, benzo's, therapies, all kinds of diagnosis and personality disorders. Doctors play god with our lives. I' agree that there is a vital, indispensable place for all these psychiatric tools in treating mental illness. I definitely don't deny that.

But i wonder what if the thing that's broken inside me ( inside many of us), needs something else, something more real to heal. Sometimes i wonder if a little love and care, is all we need.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 11:43 AM
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 11:54 AM
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I have a lot of love,care and support but I'm still depressed,so...
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 12:05 PM
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Love probably can't heal depression, but it definitely helps. I'm sorry for whoever is not getting enough support in their lives
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 12:19 PM
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I also have a lot of love, care and support and am still severely depressed. My therapist did say, however, that I have several unresolved traumas in my life that are definitely exacerbating it.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 12:22 PM
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I think having love and support from people in our lives is awesome, and beneficial to our mental health. That being said, I don't think it is enough to overcome severe depression. In those cases, extra treatment such as medication, therapy, or even ECT may be warranted and there is nothing wrong with that!
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 12:23 PM
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Well, maybe its just me then. It's good that you guys have someone to hold on to.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 12:26 PM
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Do you have a support system and love and care?
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 12:29 PM
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nah. But i got a whole lot of people who like to hurt.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 01:17 PM
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Love and care... this is the most important thing (imo)
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 01:21 PM
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nah. But i got a whole lot of people who like to hurt.
I'm sorry about the mean people in your life Can you get rid of any of them?

There is a very bad quote I dislike intensely but which may "fit" for some very mean people..

"It is better to be alone than badly accompanied"

I wish you love and that some good people enter your life (irl)

And we are all here for you
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all kinds of crap gets shoved down our throats, ssri's, antipshychotic's, snri's, trcicicylic, benzo's, therapies, all kinds of diagnosis and personality disorders. Doctors play god with our lives. I' agree that there is a vital, indispensable place for all these psychiatric tools in treating mental illness. I definitely don't deny that.

But i wonder what if the thing that's broken inside me ( inside many of us), needs something else, something more real to heal. Sometimes i wonder if a little love and care, is all we need.

Yes, you are right. Meds, therapy and so on can be important ingredients, but a little: "I see you, I understand that you have hard burdens to carry, You a need a rest, What about a good dinner today, I hope for you because you have struggled so much that you deserve to have a good life", will not harm us, but probably help us along the road!
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 02:56 PM
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Love probably can't heal depression, but it definitely helps. I'm sorry for whoever is not getting enough support in their lives
Thank you! This was warming! I am among those who have little support and understanding for my situation. It's a struggle to keep going when I experience so much negativity ... I try to reward myself for being able to keep going and for trying to not lose my love and general caring for others. If I did that I would have lost the battle.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 03:02 PM
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Be proud of yourself! Hope you're finding some support here, at least.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 03:20 PM
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Thank you! This was warming! I am among those who have little support and understanding for my situation. It's a struggle to keep going when I experience so much negativity ... I try to reward myself for being able to keep going and for trying to not lose my love and general caring for others. If I did that I would have lost the battle.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 03:39 PM
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Well, maybe its just me then. It's good that you guys have someone to hold on to.
It's not just you. But I think it's a little more than love that's needed.

We have to have a combination of love, support, and then we have to keep as much a positive attitude as possible and work as hard as possible at getting ourselves better. Too many people have been told "take this drug and you will feel better" .. so why try to do anything for ourselves? Not saying nobody tries - a lot of us do try. But I know many of us become lazy with trying if they don't feel better "soon enough".

That's all just opinion though.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 03:48 PM
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I don't think anyone one loves me genuinely
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 04:13 PM
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It's not just you. But I think it's a little more than love that's needed.

We have to have a combination of love, support, and then we have to keep as much a positive attitude as possible and work as hard as possible at getting ourselves better. Too many people have been told "take this drug and you will feel better" .. so why try to do anything for ourselves? Not saying nobody tries - a lot of us do try. But I know many of us become lazy with trying if they don't feel better "soon enough".

That's all just opinion though.
I'm not a fan of drugs either ....I was told this too (my body didn't agree grrr but I knew the
drug thing on it's own was bs anyway..)

It's complicated I agree (even the best and kindest shrinks don't have complete knowledge or anything near that in this area )

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Old Apr 20, 2017, 04:24 PM
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nah. But i got a whole lot of people who like to hurt.
You have us on this forum to help support and care about you.

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Old Apr 20, 2017, 05:41 PM
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Quite a few years ago I was diagnosed with depression. I got a prescription for it and it didn't help one bit. And then some panic attacks followed.

It seems like at my job I get along fairly well with the other employees. I rarely get personally close to them. At other avenues in my life (home at my condo complex & churches) I feel no love. At home people are into themselves and at churches they are superficial. So at that those two avenues that's when I feel depressed. I feel a lot more depressed on the weekends. One time I told a neighbor that I had panic attacks. He told me I get them because I am alone.

There was a time when I had a very good friend that lived next door to me. It was a great time and I felt like I didn't have the depression as much. At the same time the people at my complex were much nicer than now. At church I just basically come and go. I don't feel very well fit into there.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 06:00 PM
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but a little: "I see you, I understand that you have hard burdens to carry, You a need a rest, What about a good dinner today, I hope for you because you have struggled so much that you deserve to have a good life"

This is like water...And I'm kinda dehydrated
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 06:15 PM
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all kinds of crap gets shoved down our throats, ssri's, antipshychotic's, snri's, trcicicylic, benzo's, therapies, all kinds of diagnosis and personality disorders. Doctors play god with our lives. I' agree that there is a vital, indispensable place for all these psychiatric tools in treating mental illness. I definitely don't deny that.

But i wonder what if the thing that's broken inside me ( inside many of us), needs something else, something more real to heal. Sometimes i wonder if a little love and care, is all we need.
There are people in this world who've been deprived of their emotional needs since they were little kids. But we don't know (or most of us), because it is already part of us. It is normal. There is almost no mirror in society to show us that the emotional deprivation we've experienced is not normal. It's not material, not concrete, it's hard to pull up a billboard with the message.
Some of us are really suffering from this, in the sense that it's not only a missing element of daily life, a blown out lightbulb we could replace easily. For some of us, it's the material that had been left out from the construction of our being. Or severly reduced. So we feel it every day, the feeling without the thought, the pain without the name.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 06:19 PM
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There are people in this world who've been deprived of their emotional needs since they were little kids. But we don't know (or most of us), because it is already part of us. It is normal. There is almost no mirror in society to show us that the emotional deprivation we've experienced is not normal. It's not material, not concrete, it's hard to pull up a billboard with the message.
Some of us are really suffering from this, in the sense that it's not only a missing element of daily life, a blown out lightbulb we could replace easily. For some of us, it's the material that had been left out from the construction of our being. Or severly reduced. So we feel it every day, the feeling without the thought, the pain without the name.
Are you refering to ASD here?
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 06:42 PM
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Are you refering to ASD here?
Interesting, but haven't thought of that specifically...
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 07:15 PM
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Interesting, but haven't thought of that specifically...
Ok, thank you

I just wondered since one of the "symptoms" is lack of empathy (and sometimes void of much true emotion at all - they learn to mimic responses to stimuli in order to obtain the outcomes they desire... sounds harsh on their end, but it's what they know life to be)
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