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Old Sep 21, 2017, 01:49 AM
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Where do we draw the line?

I believe that self awareness is the first requirement in navigating life with mental health issue. However, where do you draw the line? In other words, can you tell when self awareness turns into self criticism and guilt?
I try my best to be aware of my actions so that I can take responsibility but before I know, it turns into severe self criticism and guilt.
Can you share your experiences? Do you give as much importance to self awareness?
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Old Sep 21, 2017, 01:32 PM
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Even without MI it's good to have healthy self-awareness. Usually I'm pretty good about being self-aware, now my mind's just mush.

Generally, the difference I find in myself is:

Self-awareness, "What I said might have been inappropriate" "You need to focus now, just work one sentence at a time, you'll get there" "You're having a panic attack and it's okay, but you need to calm down" "Not getting out of bed today is going to make things worse, go into the kitchen and get a glass of water, start from there and keep going" "You haven't showered in a while, you should probably take one"

Moderate Self-criticism, "What you said was a **** thing to say" "Dude, ****ing focus, you have to finish this" "You can't panic right now, stop and breathe for crying out loud" "Get out of bed, you're being lazy" "Not taking a shower is gross, go take care of that"

Harsh Self-criticism, "Why did you say that, asshole? You're such a tool, you know that?" "You can't focus, like usual. You're so stupid. You wanted to be an author and you can't focus enough to finish a single sentence. That's pretty damn sad. You're pathetic" "Why the **** are you panicking? You're an embarrassment. There's nothing to be scared of dumbass! Why are you so damn scared?!" "Get out of bed you ****ing parasite. You're so worthless you can't even clean up a little. You already don't work and now you can't clean. What do you do? Nothing. That's right, not a damn thing. Stop sucking the life out of people you supposedly love. You're a piece of ****" "You're so disgusting. You can't even shower. Oh, boo-hoo, you'll have another panic attack. Shut up *****. Get in the ******* shower you filthy son of a *****! How can your fiance even ****ing love you with how gross you are?"
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Old Sep 21, 2017, 05:43 PM
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So I would differentiate between self awareness, self criticism and also self-talk. You don't seem to be talking about self talk.

I put a lot of importance on self awareness in my life. Basically to be aware of my thoughts. To notice what is going on inside of me and what my patterns are, etc.

I think you can be self-aware of being self-critical. Your self-talk can be very harsh and critical. But once you are self-aware and notice that you are being critical of yourself or that your self-talk is very critical, then you can start to clean it up.

For me,
Self awareness asks, "what is going on inside of me and how can i deal with this effectively in the future?"
Self criticism asks, "what is going on inside me, and what does it say about my abilities and the kind of person i am? How can I use this information to support the negative things I believe about myself?, etc etc."
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So I would differentiate between self awareness, self criticism and also self-talk. You don't seem to be talking about self talk.

I put a lot of importance on self awareness in my life. Basically to be aware of my thoughts. To notice what is going on inside of me and what my patterns are, etc.

I think you can be self-aware of being self-critical. Your self-talk can be very harsh and critical. But once you are self-aware and notice that you are being critical of yourself or that your self-talk is very critical, then you can start to clean it up.

For me,
Self awareness asks, "what is going on inside of me and how can i deal with this effectively in the future?"
Self criticism asks, "what is going on inside me, and what does it say about my abilities and the kind of person i am? How can I use this information to support the negative things I believe about myself?, etc etc."


Very insightful. Thank you
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This is a very good thread. Thank you
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