Give me reasons why any person should not commit suicide

This thread is upsetting. I thought this was a support forum where people understood mental health issues including suicidality. It’s pretty offensive to say someone should have to live in pain just because other people will be upset. That sucks. That is a ‘reason’ tha isnt about the person at all. As an attempt survivor I am really upset to read this. And there are other threads about it popping up, it just doesn’t stop.

(((Lilypeppermint))) It typically is very supportive. Don't let one person's response put you off. We are here to support you as well as the OP.

Actually, cancer IS curable in some cases. My brother had leukemia and it's been in remission for so long it's considered cured. He was lucky.

I never said that cancer was not curable. I said depression.

I'm also not quite sure why your brother's leukemia is relevant to this discussion about depression.

"That's like saying cancer is curable. It's not. It can go into remission, but it's not curable."

Your words exactly.

As seesaw said, this forum is typically very supportive. I’m sorry this thread (or some of the posts in it) has caused you distress, I understand. (((( Hugs )))

Let's agree to disagree. Re-read the posts here: there is so much pain, suffering and desperation...I am so sorry everyone has been through so so much. So sorry.

Thanks for this post!

Regardless, this thread is about depression.

Thanks for sharing this, but I'm right here so I'd rather you or anyone else would talk to me in 2nd person than in 3rd person.

The thing I discovered is people have allot to be blamed for one's suffering
If someone is supposed to take care of you and you are suicidal, the mistreatment is on them, not you. It doesn't make sense to place so much blame and responsibility on someone who suffers, not at all!
I know I am generalizing, not everyone chooses to hurt but there are certainly people who choose to hurt and something has to be done to stop them. This is regarding the Mental Health Police topic I opened up here some time ago.
The idea which has to be understood is, mental health is a very new field, viewing the mental state as physical as the physical body. And if the physical body has been known to be harmed by others, so can mental health be harmed by others
Think of pranks in school where a bully encourages another kid to set a fire alarm in school for the sake of pleasure, and the kid gets blamed instead of the bully. They are just kids, but like you wouldn't want a kid to physically torture someone, you wouldn't want a kid to manipulate another towards harm

Think about it. Let that sink in instead of immediately responding

I know it seems unrelated, but the suicide topic is as deep as mental health and society, and eventually they all meet in the ground water

VO, I know that other people can be the cause of our suffering, but I think the point is that those people cannot fix our suffering. To get better, WE must do the work. No matter if you put the abuser in jail or make them pay for your therapy/treatment, the work of treatment is still on YOU to perform. There is no other way. I know; I've tried.

Honestly, I don't know why you should NOT commit suicide. I don't have any moral stance against it. But I think that it's a solution for which none of us can truly comprehend the consequences so it's risk-reward factor is very low.

Seesaw

EDIT:
The idea of stopping people who choose to hurt is for wellbeinf - the idea that people who choose to hurt are unstopped creates an unsafe environment and no one want to live unsafely. Everyone wants safety
Putting bandages on bruises will heal them. But to put bandages when the danger is still lurking is a sign of environmental insecurity.
So putting bandages over the bruises is important, but not without also treating the external peoblem itself

As for the suicide statement, I hope you didn’t say that to me personally.
I am NEVER intending to commit suicide, over my dead body (as satirical as it sounds). I am going to live in this world, there’s allot of work to be done

I was saying it to you. But I did not mean that "YOU" should commit suicide. I meant I don't know why anyone should not commit suicide. That I don't have a reason to stop anyone from doing that.

Obviously I do not want you to do SUI. And I hope you do not. I enjoy conversing with you here and your very complex thoughts.

I did not mean it offensively or as an attack. Was just trying to answer your question in an honest way. I apologize if it upset you or came across other than I intended.

Ok. By the way I made an edit. May want to check it out

I honestly think they are two separate issues.

1. Dealing with the perpetrators of emotional abuse.

2. Helping victims heal from emotional abuse.

They are linked, yes, but separate. Imo.

Of course they are separate operations.
But heed this - emotional manipulation is only one type of mental attack

The goal is to execute the former operation instead of continuously executing the latter to what seems no avail

I am closing this thread. It has run it's course is has turned unsupportive and argumentative.

Please do not open another thread on this topic.