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Old Dec 11, 2018, 10:45 AM
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Old Dec 11, 2018, 11:14 AM
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when I am talking about abnormal I am not talking about anyone else....
for most of my 87 years I have been told that mental illness makes me abnormal...
I have lived with that stigma...I have even incorporated it into me....
I know that actually I am little turtle who has a mental illness....
I am not the mental illness....

also I am in a very bad angry mad mood this morning....not directed at
anyone here...
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Old Dec 11, 2018, 11:36 AM
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when I am talking about abnormal I am not talking about anyone else....
for most of my 87 years I have been told that mental illness makes me abnormal...
I have lived with that stigma...I have even incorporated it into me....
I know that actually I am little turtle who has a mental illness....
I am not the mental illness....

also I am in a very bad angry mad mood this morning....not directed at
anyone here...
Some of the “professionals” I’ve consulted in this forest said or implied that I’m abnormal and “less than” them. Thanks a bunch

(Not about anyone on pc)
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 01:10 AM
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Some of the “professionals” I’ve consulted in this forest said or implied that I’m abnormal and “less than” them. Thanks a bunch

(Not about anyone on pc)
fuzzy...I am with you...... I don't like that [less than] them...
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 10:34 AM
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this morning I am reading the book peace of mind....
the author says on page 35----"it must strengthen
mature men and women to realize that everyone
has desires and fantasies anti-social in nature"

what do you think about that...
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 11:22 AM
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I am suspicious of "must" assertions. However, my observations support "everyone has desires and fantasies anti-social in nature."
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 11:43 AM
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I am suspicious of "must" assertions. However, my observations support "everyone has desires and fantasies anti-social in nature."
I agree with this
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 11:55 AM
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I agree with rohag and fuzzy....I really don't like most of this book...
it is much too -----this is the right way...preachy.....
there are some ideas that I find helpful....like helping not hurting yourself...
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Old Dec 12, 2018, 01:20 PM
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I am abnormal because I have a mental illness...

If that's the case, then the world is abnormal. We are each unique. And like Fuzzy asks "who defines "normal"'? Normal is boring , as I see it. You are who you are....a little turtle with much to give.
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 07:40 AM
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thanks calla lily12----we need more unicorns...

I am so unhappy...things are not peaceful...and there is such injustice...
and the stigma is there,,,such misunderstanding...
I am going to try to be as honest as possible...I hate BS...
I will also try to be kind...and patient...there are many good persons here
on this depression forum...
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 09:23 AM
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thanks calla lily12----we need more unicorns...

I am so unhappy...things are not peaceful...and there is such injustice...
and the stigma is there,,,such misunderstanding...
I am going to try to be as honest as possible...I hate BS...
I will also try to be kind...and patient...there are many good persons here
on this depression forum...
Totally with you here Little Turtle.

Not sure how people we trust with our secrets can so easily go ahead and trigger us without a second thought...

Even worse they don't even notice they have done it...

Or they offer a sorry, like just mentioning the word makes everything alright....
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 09:25 AM
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Today, I will remember Little Turtle's words...

Love is patient
Love is kind

No need to be lowered down to other peoples levels....

Much love to everyone today
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 09:26 AM
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Katy is back on the bus, but has just about had it with the Docs. Not anyone here. Tues. I seen a new P Doc, the 3rd one this year. This was the first time I have seen her, and she wants to take me off 2 of the meds that do help. I am getting so disgusted. I am feeling helpless, they won't listen. I am considering quitting the P Docs, and changing my Primary. All of this, this year is way too much for me to handle. Why take away the things that do help, to switch to others that don't.
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 09:32 AM
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Katy is back on the bus, but has just about had it with the Docs. Not anyone here. Tues. I seen a new P Doc, the 3rd one this year. This was the first time I have seen her, and she wants to take me off 2 of the meds that do help. I am getting so disgusted. I am feeling helpless, they won't listen. I am considering quitting the P Docs, and changing my Primary. All of this, this year is way too much for me to handle. Why take away the things that do help, to switch to others that don't.
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 09:49 AM
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beware of pdocs...I was one a long time ago...watch out..
this am i took a 5mg valium...it really helped...
I am getting ready to fly like a free spirit today...
I will be me with my mental illness and all my sins...
but no one is going to take me down...they will have to kill me...
I have tried to be a good person...I will continue that...
but ffff the people that try to take me down...ffff them

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Old Dec 13, 2018, 10:30 AM
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I want to fight for the truth....and the professionals out there...
may not be dealing about the unique truth about each person...
we may be put into a cookie cutter mold that doesn't work for us...
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 11:54 AM
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beware of pdocs...I was one a long time ago...watch out..
this am i took a 5mg valium...it really helped...
I am getting ready to fly like a free spirit today...
I will be me with my mental illness and all my sins...
but no one is going to take me down...they will have to kill me...
I have tried to be a good person...I will continue that...
but ffff the people that try to take me down...ffff them
Pdocs in this forest are not always optimal ....
Valium also helps me
Gggrrrrr at the jerks who try to take us down..
I too have tried to be a good person .... and I will continue that ....
Eff the people that try to take Fuzzybear down ...ffffffff them

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Old Dec 13, 2018, 11:55 AM
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I want to fight for the truth....and the professionals out there...
may not be dealing about the unique truth about each person...
we may be put into a cookie cutter mold that doesn't work for us...
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 11:56 AM
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Much love Katy

Professionals, in the words of Fuzzy, Grrrrrrrrrrr....

There is more support on a forum....


love to all here ....
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 12:56 PM
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in a way I am abnormal...I don't think psychiatrists
should make a lot of money....they should have adequate...
but the focus should be on helping all kinds of people...
the people with $$$$$$$$can get what they want...they pay cash...
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 03:09 PM
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I’m proud to be “abnormal” if the “normal” people are those who intentionally took me down...
And “frankly” .... normal is boring ....
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Old Dec 13, 2018, 05:32 PM
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I’m proud to be “abnormal” if the “normal” people are those who intentionally took me down...
And “frankly” .... normal is boring ....


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Old Dec 14, 2018, 08:40 AM
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I don't think there is a such thing as normal. And here in the States the Docs of all types are taking away all the meds that help people, bc the CDC, and DEA, parts of our government have made things so strict, that the Docs are afraid to help anymore. So now the States have a very bad problem with street drugs. I know our government thinks if they take away meds that Doc's give, they have solved that problem, but it has made things worse, bc people are going to the streets.
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Old Dec 16, 2018, 04:39 AM
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