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Old Feb 01, 2019, 06:30 PM
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IMHO the DSM and the equivalents stink. I use it to wipe my bear butt on. IMHO that’s all it’s good “enough” for gggggrrrrrrrrrrr
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Old Feb 01, 2019, 06:31 PM
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NO we are not “stupid” or “inferior” to the doctors because we have a mental illness.
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Old Feb 01, 2019, 06:58 PM
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Grrrrrrrrrrr why don't professional's listen to us?

Our truth falls on deaf ears....
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Old Feb 01, 2019, 07:04 PM
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Grrrrrrrrrrr why don't professional's listen to us?

Our truth falls on deaf ears....
I know, I’m so tired of it

And they just say “bye” to us and treat us worse than garbage on the streets

Just like my freakin PUS did

Why the **** did they ever have a bear cub ... “bye” they said. No compassion no nothing. Eff them
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Old Feb 01, 2019, 07:17 PM
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I know, I’m so tired of it

And they just say “bye” to us and treat us worse than garbage on the streets

Just like my freakin PUS did

Why the **** did they ever have a bear cub ... “bye” they said. No compassion no nothing. Eff them
Exhaustion...

We are real
We deserve love

Is there any peaceful rest to be had after our years of punishment?
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Old Feb 01, 2019, 08:27 PM
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Exhaustion...

We are real
We deserve love

Is there any peaceful rest to be had after our years of punishment?
I send you love my dear friend

I wish I had answers ....

I’m honoured to be on the AS IS bus with you and little turtle and Rohag and all the other kind people here
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Old Feb 02, 2019, 03:17 PM
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The AS IS bus is a safe place for us all....

Much love to @Fuzzybear, @little tuttle, @Rohag

and all those who travel

@cryingontheinside would you like to ride with us today?
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Old Feb 02, 2019, 03:26 PM
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 10:12 AM
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Exhaustion...

We are real
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Is there any peaceful rest to be had after our years of punishment?
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 10:59 AM
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Little Turtle family is not educated about MH symptoms. They think that is weakness of the will not chemical dis-balance in brain. If you do not have an arm everybody will have understanding but your disability is not visible and people are just overlooking it as something not important.

Mental health as part was not recognized by lawmakers for a long time because of it.
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 11:12 AM
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Therapy may help some people.

For those of us with CPTSD with depression and anxiety, my GP tells me there is no cure. Just management which helps but when we are overwhelmed, triggered all the time, life is unbearable....

The support we give each other and knowing we are not alone is very much appreciated. Being accepted AS IS, being our own friend is a starting point...
I am so sorry to hear that. I am just a student of the social work and I am working as case manager in mental health agency. I know that my counselors are using different techniques not just cognitive behavioral therapy. They are using all kind of therapies and coping skills. Can you try mindfulness? It helps to accept yourself as you are and prevent panic attacks. Also, positive thinking as a doing a miracles. How positive thinking works? Easy, tell yourself that you are doing a good thing and commend yourself even when you just get up from bed and wash your face when you wake up. You made it. Reward yourself for coping with MH.
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 11:14 AM
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I feel sad...

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Old Feb 03, 2019, 11:26 AM
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I watched a news programme here in the UK yesterday,
A depression survivor, urged us to get help,
stating there is help out there for everyone.

She has not met us...
or heard our truth...

Mental health services do harm and no good!
I am sorry to hear that. I am not familiar with UK system. In U.S.A programs for MH are developed by lawmakers (thanks to George Bush senior who saw how depression can change someone life because his best friend had severe depression and attempt suicide).
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 11:36 AM
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I feel sad...

What is going on? Can I help you?
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 11:37 AM
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I watched a news programme here in the UK yesterday,
A depression survivor, urged us to get help,
stating there is help out there for everyone.

She has not met us...
or heard our truth...

Mental health services do harm and no good!
This is not true... what this person says

She has not heard us or our truth

The “services” do harm

They are not listening still

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Old Feb 03, 2019, 11:39 AM
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Grrrrrrrrrrr why don't professional's listen to us?

Our truth falls on deaf ears....
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 05:21 PM
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I am so sorry to hear that. I am just a student of the social work and I am working as case manager in mental health agency. I know that my counselors are using different techniques not just cognitive behavioral therapy. They are using all kind of therapies and coping skills. Can you try mindfulness? It helps to accept yourself as you are and prevent panic attacks. Also, positive thinking as a doing a miracles. How positive thinking works? Easy, tell yourself that you are doing a good thing and commend yourself even when you just get up from bed and wash your face when you wake up. You made it. Reward yourself for coping with MH.
I have tried mindfulness. Sometimes helps but not when I am triggered and overwhelmed.

I have lots of coping techniques but there is no cure. I find meds don't work for me. They have no positive effect and I suffer badly from the side effects.

Positive thinking helps but sometimes life is just bad and no amount of positive spin will change it. It will still be bad in years to come too.

Do you know of any treatments that may help us in the UK? We have terrible mental health services who cause us more harm.

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Old Feb 03, 2019, 05:22 PM
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 05:25 PM
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I agree. I have been harmed by professionals also.
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 05:58 PM
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much love to all on the as is bus

Where is little turtle?
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I have tried mindfulness. Sometimes helps but not when I am triggered and overwhelmed.

I have lots of coping techniques but there is no cure. I find meds don't work for me. They have no positive effect and I suffer badly from the side effects.

Positive thinking helps but sometimes life is just bad and no amount of positive spin will change it. It will still be bad in years to come too.

Do you know of any treatments that may help us in the UK? We have terrible mental health services who cause us more harm.

Much love to you
Thanks for love. I know that there is genetic testing for compatibility with medications. I was lucky one and my medications are working but counseling helps a lot. Life is complicated and it is hard if you do not have support from family members.
I am not not clinician yet to give you some tips about treatments or therapies but try to find good counselor. The legend said they exist
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 06:44 PM
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I’m also in the uk and am allergic to all the meds I’ve tried (many) except for benzos.

I do think there may be some good counsellors, I haven’t found one though

Also plenty of money would be needed imho, which not everyone has

The “public system” imho, is not honest in this forest irl imho ... amongst other things
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Old Feb 03, 2019, 07:08 PM
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I’m also in the uk and am allergic to all the meds I’ve tried (many) except for benzos.

I do think there may be some good counsellors, I haven’t found one though

Also plenty of money would be needed imho, which not everyone has

The “public system” imho, is not honest in this forest irl imho ... amongst other things
I am sorry to hear this Fuzzybear. The system is not perfect anywhere but keep trying and you will find a good counselor. It is a trip and like all trips the road can be rough.
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i have been having a problem with my heart....out of breath...
probably a-fib.....I will be having some tests soon...

so I worry and worry and worry....
valium really helps me when I just can't stand it anymore..
but valium really scares me...it is such a good medicine...
I do not want to go back being a regular user...

so I am trying other actions to handle this stress...drugs
and medicines scare me...I am not very courageous...
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