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Old Apr 23, 2008, 06:27 PM
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Mindfulness is today considered a mehtod for living a fulfilling life. It is to be chieved mainly through meditation. Now, apart from the difficulty of meditation, I'm way more allured by the idea of mindlesness. The only things I can be mindful about are my fears and my anguishes. Happyness, for me, is the result of a unreasonable sort of... uncaring, mindless attitude. I always practiced a littel meditation, but now I don't know if it is good or not.
The problem is hardly relavant, cause my meditative skill is really poor mindfulness vs mindlesness
But I just wonder if I'm doing something positive at all.

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Old Apr 23, 2008, 07:26 PM
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 08:15 PM
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Yes, just turning the focus onto lighter subjects and odd quirks is very helpful for me; I got a lawn mower in the mail (UPS) today and set about mowing! The smell, the different activity, etc. was very helpful to my mindset bent on worrying about other things.
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 09:23 AM
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> Happyness, for me, is the result of a unreasonable sort of... uncaring, mindless attitude.

How long does that happiness last? mindfulness vs mindlesness mindfulness vs mindlesness
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 12:38 PM
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If mindlessness is something like getting "lost" in an activity, I'm all for that. I've done Transcendental Meditation off and on for many years. I guess I vote for distractions.

In therapy for most of my life, I guess that was mindfulness. It took a lot of energy.
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 08:45 PM
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Trying, searching and seaking is positive thinking in itself.

Never stop trying because trying is positive.
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Old Apr 26, 2008, 07:26 AM
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Mindfulness leads to awareness of what is behind, underneath, around things like anxiety and depression. It's a slowing down, an acceptance without judgement.

If you can, read some Pema Chodron: www.shambhala.com I particularly like "When Things Fall Apart" Heart Advice for Difficult Times.

To me, mindlessess and other distractions have a purpose too--to provide temporary and spontaneous relief.

Practicing living in the moment and suspending judgement also provide relief as well as a new way of looking at things that can be preventative in that the resulting feelings change too.

From "When Things Fall Apart": Chapter Six .. It's a transformative experience to simply pause instead of immediately filling up the space. By waiting, we begin to connect with fundamental restlessness as well as fundamental spaciousness.

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Refraining is the method for getting to know the nature of this restlessness and fear. It's a method for settling into groundlessness. If we immediately entertain ourselves by talking, by acting, by thinking--if there's never any pause--we will never be able to relax. We will always be speeding through our lives. We'll always be stuck with what my grandfather called a good case of the jitters. Refraining is a way of making friends with ourselves at the most profound level possible. We can begin to relate with what's underneath all the bubbles and burps, all the stuff that comes out and expresses itself as upright, controlling, manipulative behavior, or whatever it is. Underneath all that, there's something very soft, very tender, that we experience as fear or edginess.

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> --Pema Chodron

Her writing is very interesting, simple, calming.
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Old Apr 26, 2008, 11:50 AM
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Echoes gets it.

Earlier, Doh2007 said:

"It took a lot of energy."

Yes, mindfulness does take energy. It is not the easiest course to take -- except in the long run it is probably the best. It takes practice, and then it gets (somewhat) easier. But breaks from it are probably good too, if they aren't too long!
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