I Feel Pain, Too

i'm sorry you were hurt, mj. you have a right to your feelings.

sometimes it's good to know ASAP when you can't trust someone. even though you were hurt, now you don't have to waste your heart on developing a deeper relationship with the person who hurt you in chat. or, maybe this is a test to see if you two can overcome this and still be friends. trusting is very difficult, especially online whenever you can't look someone in the eyes.

or hear their voice. well said jennie

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You have always been wonderful towards me and upon reflection I can't understand the attacks made but as knee jerk reactions of injured people's misplaced and unrelated internal anger which reflects poorly on them not you. I'm so sorry you have been treated so, and have been feeling sad about it. From my perspective you are owed major apologies from several.

Hope you are feeling much better now~Down

Well Mj, it's a new day and I hope you are feeling the love I see here for you. As I have often said, you were my first friend here and gave me courage to go back to work when I needed it. I wish you happiness. I know a good soul when I see one. Play with your puppies and enjoy the sunshine and check in with me later K?

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Thinking of you and hoping you (and yours) are feeling better today.

(((((((((((((((((((((((Jo))))))))))))))))))))) you know how I feel, and you have all the support I can give. You deserve to be happy, and express your feelings. to your furture. Love ya.

MJ: Don't do it. Don't beg, or reason, or even ask for what's due you as a human being. Don't bargain with them. What is your right in the first place --- was never theirs to give. Understand that.

I've seen what goes on here. People are rewarded for assuming a supplicating posture. People are NOT encouraged to hold one's head up and express the normal feelings of anger and resentment caused by those who are treating adults like preschoolers, insulting and repressing them.

It's bound to cause anger, when injustice and bigotry are acceptable and considered "perfectly fine" --- and blowing the whistle on that bad stuff is punished by the thought police --- unless it's done in a whiny "Please-don't-hurt-me-again!" manner.

Never permit it, MJ. Never allow it in a million years. If someone arrogantly suggests that it might be all right if you speak about your beloved in the relationship forum --- that person should take a flying leap and go enroll herself in a condescension management class. You don't "need" anyone's permission.

ZH: You're mistaken. Here they do deny one the right to express one's feelings. We have the thought police, and censorship is rampant. We all know how to avoid punishment by wearing a hangdog expression and a penitent, hurt look, while begging. Otherwise, one may be sent to Coventry. But is it worth the loss of self-respect? Under the circumstances, some might consider it a badge of honor if they don't fit in. Just my thoughts on the matter.

Adieu

You are so right about the begging and trying to reason with people who make it their job to control our minds, and even what we do. I have tried so many times to explain to my Mom what happens with the controlling issue, but it doesn't do any good. We just have to hold our heads up, live our lives, and let those kind of people live in their own misery. And they are very miserable people when they have nothing better to do than to degrade and control others. You are good!!

INKY: No offense meant. I read your post wrong (in a hurry) and thought you meant that MJ should post about this subject ONLY in the Relationship Forum. Sorry about that. I see that you were being supportive.

Adieu

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I am sorry your feeling like this. Please know that we are here for you ALWAYS. Please take care of yourself. Remember YOU come first.

Oh no!! No reason to say "sorry" to anyone, my good friend.
This comes a couple days late, I hadn't read all posts at the forums yet, never the less I want you to know that you need not to say "sorry", you did nothing you need to apologize to anyone.
You are a sweet, warm, caring person. . . and you have been so supportive to all so many people, I, being one of them.
I'd like to say "thank you", and keep in touch, too

Sincerely,
DE

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Sorry it took me so long to respond, guys. Y'all really helped me through this...I'm doing a lot better now. Thanks so much for all of the kind words.

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And more hugs to everyone else. You guys are the reason this site is so terrific.

Love y'all,
Jo

I have never agreed with that assement that you posted.. and I never will..

You are a kind wonderful loveing person, and that will never change.
Yes you have been hurt and I am so sorry for that, people say things and do things and sometimes they do not know what they are doing because they are hurting just as badly as we are, and then when it is already said, they relize it is too late to take it back.

I do not know what happend other than you have found someone to love and I am happy for that.

Keep one thing in mind. The love god has given you will keep you both strong, but you both have to be strong enough to make it work, and strength in each other and holding on to one another is one thing only the two of you can do.
I have learned this the hard way, People will say and do just about anything to try and break down your happiness. (trust me I have had it done so much over the last 3 years) I wont let it happen...
You have to be strong enouhg to fight for your love of self, your love of Greg, your love of all things to be able to be happy, and then be able to move on with your life as a copule..

I hope I have not been too long winded here, but I just wanted to give you some freindly advice and to tell you what I have seen in my life and why I have choosen not to really come on the fourms much becuase of this..

Happiness comes from the inside, not from what others say to you.

Love to you
and I do hope this helps somewhat to you..