[IowaFarmGal]

I've seen post talking about hearing your others in the background. I only hear the little girl and the thing from the anger bundle when they are active and I am shutting down or shut down and they are talking to others. It's not hearing in the sense of understanding what's being said, more so just knowing they are speaking. I know I have seen it said also there are many different systems as unique as each individual. Just wondering I guess if everyone else hears them in the background when they are not active. On the internet Little Girl was able to shut me down for brief periods and attach and speak to one person through the keyboard. It was not the usual situation that will trigger her although this other person was talking about being abused herself as a little girl. Has that happened to anyone else? Even if they are not active lately are they still there if I don't hear them in the background like others talk about?

[IowaFarmGal]

Is there something wrong with the question?

[GypsyRosalie]

I think I understand what you are saying... For quite some time, Cas, our core, didn't even know what was wrong with her. She didn't hear us much really until she started to accept us. Now she can hear something like a crowd at a distance? She doesn't hear what we are saying just that we are talking. Some times if lines are blurry she will accidentally say things that we are talking about.... Does any of this make sense?

Emberlynn

[IowaFarmGal]

Yes that makes sense. Thank you GyspyRosalie!

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by IowaFarmGal

I've seen post talking about hearing your others in the background. I only hear the little girl and the thing from the anger bundle when they are active and I am shutting down or shut down and they are talking to others. It's not hearing in the sense of understanding what's being said, more so just knowing they are speaking. I know I have seen it said also there are many different systems as unique as each individual. Just wondering I guess if everyone else hears them in the background when they are not active. On the internet Little Girl was able to shut me down for brief periods and attach and speak to one person through the keyboard. It was not the usual situation that will trigger her although this other person was talking about being abused herself as a little girl. Has that happened to anyone else? Even if they are not active lately are they still there if I don't hear them in the background like others talk about?

Originally Posted by IowaFarmGal

Just wondering I guess if everyone else hears them in the background when they are not active.

I have more than one mental disorder that contains the symptom of hearing voices...those that I heard that were my DID alters ...well I heard their voices non stop. it diddnt matter whether I was sitting doing nothing or going through a very active day. The only thing that stopped the alters type voices with in me was integration of my alters.

The voices I heard through my bipolar disorder/psychosis/depression/... those voices were sporadic, usually happened when my medication stopped working/medication was wrong due to wrong type, dosage... those type of voices didnt matter whether I was doing nothing or very active also.. it just depended upon my medications. once my treatment providers and I took care of the medication problem those voices mostly disappeared.

I also have the normal type of hearing voices that are in my treatment providers words "intrusive thoughts" just sporadic thoughts that are memories of voices through out my life time similar to having flashbacks but more on a normal scale. Those do happen to me during times of inactivity such as sitting, doing nothing, falling asleep at night and other times when my brain is at rest. my treatment providers and I dont treat it with medications and other intervention ways because these kinds of voices are perfectly normal. I have many outlets for dealing with these type of voices... journaling, candle making, and other hobbies that can be done during those times without disturbing my wife's restful sleep

[Gr3tta]

I maybe got it wrong, but I feel like part of your question was this: " Even if they are not active lately are they still there if I don't hear them in the background like others talk about?" My answer to this is YES!!! They still exist even if you do not hear them, or are unaware of them for awhile. The same way that people in Belgium still exist even though I am unaware of them.
(oh! and btw, I also LOVE Eeyore! )

[IowaFarmGal]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

I have more than one mental disorder that contains the symptom of hearing voices...those that I heard that were my DID alters ...well I heard their voices non stop. it diddnt matter whether I was sitting doing nothing or going through a very active day. The only thing that stopped the alters type voices with in me was integration of my alters.

The voices I heard through my bipolar disorder/psychosis/depression/... those voices were sporadic, usually happened when my medication stopped working/medication was wrong due to wrong type, dosage... those type of voices didnt matter whether I was doing nothing or very active also.. it just depended upon my medications. once my treatment providers and I took care of the medication problem those voices mostly disappeared.

I also have the normal type of hearing voices that are in my treatment providers words "intrusive thoughts" just sporadic thoughts that are memories of voices through out my life time similar to having flashbacks but more on a normal scale. Those do happen to me during times of inactivity such as sitting, doing nothing, falling asleep at night and other times when my brain is at rest. my treatment providers and I dont treat it with medications and other intervention ways because these kinds of voices are perfectly normal. I have many outlets for dealing with these type of voices... journaling, candle making, and other hobbies that can be done during those times without disturbing my wife's restful sleep

Now I see why my post is unclear. I only hear the others when they are active performing their function for me and I am shut down or shutting down. Little girl tries to appease and resolve a crisis, the anger one tries to end a prolonged bad situation and enable me to get free.

[GypsyRosalie]

Sounds to me like it could be a slight co-consciousness. When you are aware (in any way) of what the others are doing.... If you can hear them when they are the forefront of your head, then that may be what it is. I still don't know if this helps any...

Emberlynn

[IowaFarmGal]

Thanks Emberlynn! I'm still trying to figure out where I belong. I don't seem to be the same as many of you. T asks do I see my others as me. I think they have to be me from sometime, because they are in my head. That makes a difference in what the diagnosis would be according to her. But I am not awake when they are active, it's like I am watching them and recording but the emotions are not hooked up and nothing is experienced directly. Just trying to figure it out.

[such is life...]

Originally Posted by IowaFarmGal

I've seen post talking about hearing your others in the background. I only hear the little girl and the thing from the anger bundle when they are active and I am shutting down or shut down and they are talking to others. It's not hearing in the sense of understanding what's being said, more so just knowing they are speaking. I know I have seen it said also there are many different systems as unique as each individual. Just wondering I guess if everyone else hears them in the background when they are not active. On the internet Little Girl was able to shut me down for brief periods and attach and speak to one person through the keyboard. It was not the usual situation that will trigger her although this other person was talking about being abused herself as a little girl. Has that happened to anyone else? Even if they are not active lately are they still there if I don't hear them in the background like others talk about?

hey Farm Gal....thought I'd throw my two cents in.I "hear " my alters a lot...most of the time I am able to tune them out... then it just sounds like background noise. BUT I have just recently ( maybe I'm maturing or something....if there is such a thing as maturing with your System) I am learning that if a part is going on and on about something and we ignore him/her or tell them to be quiet they just get loader; even aggravated....so now I say to the part that is "going off" okay go for it we will listen and when we do listen;... they say whats on their mind and there is internal peace. Sometimes if I cant get some one to shut up we let them write down what they want to say,I learned this the hard way because for me and my System if we don't write it down or listen to who ever is talking then in side that part will "add page after page "to whatever is going on with that part.My T ....and I just learned this too....if a part is Triggered....no matter how ...then that part will go nuts inside and sometimes we will be trying to sleep....but if I acknowledge that part and let them speak ...then , That part says whatever and will shut up.Sometimes my kid parts get real active at night and we have to tell them to "go to sleep and no one better make a peep!" ....but as with all kids one kid will always say" peep!" I guess what I'm saying at least for me and my System is they need to get stuff off their chest too..so let them get it out and you will find some peace....if I'm way off here I apologize FarmGal

[IowaFarmGal]

No apology needed such is life. It just is another example that we are different. I just have the two and we are not awake at the same time and nobody gets loud because they are ignored. Little Girl comes because something happens to me and I can't continue, to appease and resolve the situation. The anger one resists abuse of authority and moves and speaks in ways I never do. I'll be upset but just take it until I can't do it anymore. It is there to end the situation immediately, or maybe it's a mental break that recurs, I don't know. It doesn't seem like a person to me and is not very verbal, but yells and defies. It doesn't seem like the same thing that many of you talk about.

[GypsyRosalie]

Originally Posted by IowaFarmGal

Thanks Emberlynn! I'm still trying to figure out where I belong. I don't seem to be the same as many of you. T asks do I see my others as me. I think they have to be me from sometime, because they are in my head. That makes a difference in what the diagnosis would be according to her. But I am not awake when they are active, it's like I am watching them and recording but the emotions are not hooked up and nothing is experienced directly. Just trying to figure it out.

The way core sees us is as altered states of herself. We are her as an angry person, her as a shy quiet person, her as a fashionista.... We are her, even if we dont look like her. We look like that bit of her would look. Alex is very dark, black or candy red hair, angry and loud, doesnt take anyone's crap. Nina is vibrant, blonde, valley girl-ish. Both are the core but as the core would exist if she was the way they are... I may be talking in circles, so if I don't make sense just ignore me...

As for not being totally in it when they are out, it sounds like you do have some co-con because you see what's happening. Some of us, core doesnt even see what is happening..... Core says DID it is like riding in a car. you are either driving (out), riding in the front (communicating with the driver and see what is happening but no control), riding in the back (seeing some but no real contact with the driver), or in the trunk (no sight no sound, but dragged along for the ride)... Does any of this sound familiar?

If you want to keep talking, feel free to PM. If you put my name in the message, I'll be sure to be the one to answer you, but you are welcome to talk to any of us that will talk...

Emberlynn

[IowaFarmGal]

I do describe it as who is driving. It's been me for a long time now, although I think the anger one was involved when I lost my jobs and I did lose bits of time with little girl when she attached to someone I knew online. I have had thoughts just kind of pop out of my mouth. I don't have any sense of it being someone else saying them, not sure where they come from. Do you mean I should stop talking about this on the thread?

[GypsyRosalie]

I don't mean that at all. I just know that when I'm reading, I don't like to read pages and pages of conversation between only two people. I also know that the others won't post on a thread I have started talking on.

Emberlynn

[Gr3tta]

Personally, I don't mind reading back and forth threads between two people. Sometimes I might not post if I don't want to throw them off, but I still want to read what they have to say.
I don't know if this will confuse it further, but alter voices sound like they come from the same place in my head that my own thoughts come from, in terms of how they feel and the resonance inside my head, but they don't sound like my own internal voice. They sound like they originate from the same place, but they are different.
...in re-reading that I'm not sure it will make sense, but maybe it will.
Are you and your T still trying to define whether or not you have DID? Or are you deciding on treatment plans?

[IowaFarmGal]

Originally Posted by Gr3tta

Personally, I don't mind reading back and forth threads between two people. Sometimes I might not post if I don't want to throw them off, but I still want to read what they have to say.
I don't know if this will confuse it further, but alter voices sound like they come from the same place in my head that my own thoughts come from, in terms of how they feel and the resonance inside my head, but they don't sound like my own internal voice. They sound like they originate from the same place, but they are different.
...in re-reading that I'm not sure it will make sense, but maybe it will.
Are you and your T still trying to define whether or not you have DID? Or are you deciding on treatment plans?

She was trying to determine what type of dissociative disorder it was, or to gather information for the pdoc to do that maybe would be more accurate statement. She says she never deliberately caused me to dissociate but I think she was doing some sort of testing when it happened. I'm sure she wasn't trying to do anything harmful. We've had to go very slow because of prior bad experiences. I was having panic attacks just being in the therapy setting again. I don't see the pdoc because she sets that off and I haven't been able to deal with her. I was having a lot a anxiety with T to start too, but we've got past that. I won't take medication because of prior bad experiences, so it goes slow. We talked about diagnosis very briefly early on but not since. It was a list. The voices are internal and only heard when the Little Girl or the anger one are in control and are indistinct to me. The others have their own way of talking, of moving, their own emotional states which are different than mine.

[IowaFarmGal]

So if I'm blurting out stuff that makes no sense to me and I hardly know what I'm saying when my attention is otherwise focused, ie driving the car or some focused task like that, can that be part of this? or is it always internal thoughts when the others are speaking while the core is awake?

[Gr3tta]

If I understand your question correctly, then my answer is yes, it certainly could be. Sometimes their words might come out your mouth. I sometimes feel that has happened.
Is it bothering you? Have you told your T that this has happened?
Please take care.

[PurpleFlyingMonkeys]

I may be late replying but i asked my t the same question, if they are talking and such even when i dont hear them and he said yes. I hear them when as you im ready to shut down or sometimes when im sleeping. Well when im getting ready for sleep. They keep me up and at that point its nonsense talk about malls, animals, just really anything that seems pointless to me. I didnt understand it until he explained even when i dont hear them that they are still communicating with each other. They are seperate minds broken off of mine,. It still doesnt explain why i cant communicate with them when i am inside but perhaps this is a co con thing.

They all view themselves as sepperate minds, and are able to communicate with each other within, from what he says. Ive too gone online and found conversations i had with people that was not me. Part of the dx i guess. Same thing goes for conversations i dont remember having only seconds before.

Its confusing, it really is, and no two minds are the same so if someone has multiple minds, no two multiples can be the same. But the voices thing is normal for me in how you explained it. T says its because i let my defences down when trying to sleep and that i let it down when i just want to go away during really hard times, that it gets me closer to them. Now im tryong to figure out how to let my defences down without stress and without sleep so i can start listening to them and their needs

[Tamster]

Purple,
I hear you loud and clear the being kept awake and woken up by the bunch of them partying it seems and I'm not invited! Sometimes I talk to my little bunch but avoid the stronger ones out of fear. They can be a naughty crew.

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[IowaFarmGal]

I would have a hard time explaining what I mean to the T I think. Sometimes what is said is not very good either. We haven't discussed blurting out stuff in therapy. Some of it is repetitive thoughts that pop out of my mouth. I want to understand but this is frightening me a bit. The T is unsure of the diagnosis too. She knows I dissociate she's seen it, but the fact that I think they are part of me from sometime confuses the subject.