maybe triggers: regarding childlike faith.

To be honest it is easier to write responses than it is to write on my own initiative but here we go.....

I have a question about insiders and faith. not in a religious sense just that in our split we have some very different thoughts. some believe and some not. our littles believe and the older ones do not - at least they have said in the past they are done believing. it is very painful to think about the things that brought them to that point. I don't want for us to live in this life like this all the way to the end. thats a long time. so maybe it is best to talk about it.

sometimes I think about the ones believing can believe for all of them. the outside person feels so conflicted - when the littles are out and its about believing it is easier for the outside to join in. we call it her childlike faith. when the bigs are out and not believing, the outside doesn't want to get into an argument with them about it so she doesn't challenge them but sometimes they also use the body to say they don't believe. she says it is what they believe right now and lets it go.it isn't a bad thing we don't think cuz that is how it is for them. but that isn't quite true. sometimes she feels bad like she wants to punish the body for not believing. but then she sees it will also punish the littles. they don't deserve to be punished. it is just conflicting. back and forth. feeling torn for the outside.

the littles believe and have lots of love. the older insiders are angry and haven't had a chance to finish that work. the t passed away before we got there. he was so good for us. we miss him terribly. his wife said maybe we can make up a email adress for him that just us can get into and still write to him, that part feels good but he can't write back. that part feels lonely. but we don't think we will find another t like him to work with us on that. and our system wants to be respected for how we are, not told to shut down and be just a 1 because somebody doesn't understand DID. that is too hard if we are going to work on stuff. where we live people don't talk about DID.

also I think this forum is not for talking about religion so how do people talk about what is going on in that way? or is faith not considered religion? that would be good. is there a way to talk about what we described here or does it have to be on the more religious forum - cuz we don't think they can help us in the DID way. that would be important. lots of stuff happened in religion is how some of the split happened so I need to protect us from that. I peeked at those forums and couldn't stay there. I think they are good people it is just triggering for me and mine.

Is there a forum to talk about DID and faith? or spiritual abuse? trying to make a safe way to talk and not get hurt. so skimming the top. ok. thanks for listening.

and whoever gave those hugs, thank you. don't know where they all come from.

I think it is ok for each of you to believe different things. You can't force anyone to believe anything. I think in your case they would act out and be mad at you possibly shut down some. Can you find parts of faith that all of ylu have in commn like it is wrpng too... hugs

thank you for responding monarch butterfly. it is hard to know if we can find some common parts of faith. it is too murky to leave it the way it is. maybe some will never believe but we don't know that if we don't try right. they don't know the littles i don't think or if they did meet it was a long time ago and there is a dark curtain around the ones who dont believe. this is not a good thing in our system. it is good not to force anyone though so we want to see if we can encourage them to try to talk about stuff. faith is very threatening for them and the system knows there can be no hurting any one. we know that. we are trying to make a safe way for them. maybe the dark curtain is just the hard stuff and not about believing so much. but we want to work it through if we can. if it didn't need to happen we think it wouldn't be at the door now.

religious talk is not allowed so Im going to be very general. I had alters that were the same religion as I am and others that were different beliefs and others that had no religion..

when I talked about this with my therapist she told me that she isnt surprised.. alters are like normal people...they have their own way of being..their own job, purpose, reason for being, their own likes, dislikes, views on politics, religion, the environment and so much more just like any other person does. so how do we deal with this kind of thing....the same way as if a friend, co worker, friend ...anyone came to me and said they are the same religion as I am or are a different religion then I am or have no preference to religion... I would accept that the person is different or the same as I am and because I live in america where everyone has the constitutional right to and can have and practice their own religion my alters are to be treated the same way. they have their own way of being and have the constitutional right to practice what ever religion or no religion they want to.

as the right board. there is the spiritual board for things like wishing or passing along good thoughts and prayers for those that want to but discussions about specific religions are not allowed on the boards. there is some social groups that are about specific religions to find them go to the top of the page and click on quick links and then in the section that says networking is the link for social groups.

amandalouise, thankyou for your response. I am trying to say that I understand religious talk is not allowed herre. Also saying that I don't think DID would be understood or accepted well on the religous forums - or at least I'm not willing to take that risk which might mean finding a different site which I'm ok with. In one spiritual abuse recovery group I was in I was accused of being possessed and several people tried to kick me out of the group....devestating....trying to prevent this.

The DID and religion are intertwined which is difficult to describe...doesn't feel safe to bring it up in the religious forums - no offense to anyone who might go to these forums. I am simply searching hence this thread.