[ThisWayOut]

not sure where to ask this, but since it happens lately when I'm starting to dissociate in session, I guess here's a good place to ask...

Recently (like in the last 4 months or so), something weird has been happening to me when I get stressed, mostly when I start to dissociate: I can be listening to someone, but what they say suddenly no longer makes any sense. I can understand the individual words they are saying, but cannot put meaning to the sentence or sentiment. It most recently happened in my last therapy session. The therapist was asking me questions, and I couldn't understand what she was saying. I told her this, and she suggested that maybe she was being too abstract in her dialogue. Since she is a new T, I kinda just went with it (maybe she is and I'm just stressing a lot in session). But this wasn't the first time it happened to me. It has happened before with my previous T, and sometimes it happens when I'm talking to people about other random things. I can hear the words, I can know their induvidual meaning, but I can't string those meanings together to get the full gist of what the person is saying. It's very frustrating.

Has anyone else had anything like this? It's kinda disturbing...

[kaliope]

I lose track k of my t a lot too and become confused in session. My head usually gets all fuzzy and I just can't follow what she is saying. She is pretty good at pizza king up on it and fairgrounds me. It is usually when my alters are trying to come out.

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[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by ThisWayOut

not sure where to ask this, but since it happens lately when I'm starting to dissociate in session, I guess here's a good place to ask...

Recently (like in the last 4 months or so), something weird has been happening to me when I get stressed, mostly when I start to dissociate: I can be listening to someone, but what they say suddenly no longer makes any sense. I can understand the individual words they are saying, but cannot put meaning to the sentence or sentiment. It most recently happened in my last therapy session. The therapist was asking me questions, and I couldn't understand what she was saying. I told her this, and she suggested that maybe she was being too abstract in her dialogue. Since she is a new T, I kinda just went with it (maybe she is and I'm just stressing a lot in session). But this wasn't the first time it happened to me. It has happened before with my previous T, and sometimes it happens when I'm talking to people about other random things. I can hear the words, I can know their indevidual meaning, but I can't string those meanings together to get the full gist of what the person is saying. It's very frustrating.

Has anyone else had anything like this? It's kinda disturbing...

here in NY when someone suddenly with in a few months start having episodes where they can not understand what is being said to them its usually a physical health problem not a mental health problem....

example one day I was sitting with my wife and suddenly I had trouble understanding what she was saying. I immediately got concerned because it had never happened before. I went to my medical doctor and discovered I had a medicinal problem that was causing my body to react as if I was having mini strokes. that medication was changed and with in a few weeks my brain was able to use its logic tools that brains do when taking words and putting them together and understand whats being said.

another example someone I know went months without notifying their treatment provider that they were having problems with understanding what was being said to them....turned out they were having minis strokes.

in other situations I know of it turned out people had Alzheimer disease/ cancer and other physical health problems....

my suggestion even though its happening during stressful times when you dissociate that may also point directly to something physical so if this was me I would be contacting my treatment providers so that diagnostic tests and treatment can be done whether its mental or physical.

[Patagonia]

Sometimes I hear my T but their just words. Somewhere in my brain it takes it in, but much longer to process what she's saying. Then I dwell on the last thing said, talk about it in my head & by then I've missed something else. Yes usually around when I'm starting to dissociate. Then I can get lost in that & miss all or part of that conversation. If I'm having problems I try to move around a lot to stay present, but usually ask her to repeat everything for me. I know it is frustrating.
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[Perna]

I think it is a function of the stress, not "unusual". I use to have something like that happen, it sounds like, when I would get extremely anxious. I'd try to do something like call out to my therapist, "Wait a minute, I'm getting too upset and your words don't make sense!"

[Claritytoo]

Originally Posted by ThisWayOut

not sure where to ask this, but since it happens lately when I'm starting to dissociate in session, I guess here's a good place to ask...

Recently (like in the last 4 months or so), something weird has been happening to me when I get stressed, mostly when I start to dissociate: I can be listening to someone, but what they say suddenly no longer makes any sense. I can understand the individual words they are saying, but cannot put meaning to the sentence or sentiment. It most recently happened in my last therapy session. The therapist was asking me questions, and I couldn't understand what she was saying. I told her this, and she suggested that maybe she was being too abstract in her dialogue. Since she is a new T, I kinda just went with it (maybe she is and I'm just stressing a lot in session). But this wasn't the first time it happened to me. It has happened before with my previous T, and sometimes it happens when I'm talking to people about other random things. I can hear the words, I can know their induvidual meaning, but I can't string those meanings together to get the full gist of what the person is saying. It's very frustrating.

Has anyone else had anything like this? It's kinda disturbing...

A similar thing happens to me mostly in session. I switch and sometimes my t continues to talk to me as though I am still the one who got us to session. So sometimes I don't know what she is saying because she is talking over my head. Some of us understand adult complex stuff others understand simpler stuff. I usually will ask her to explain what she is saying if I don't understand what she is talking about. Sometimes one of the others will tell me what she means and sometimes I just sit there confused.

[ThisWayOut]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

here in NY when someone suddenly with in a few months start having episodes where they can not understand what is being said to them its usually a physical health problem not a mental health problem....

example one day I was sitting with my wife and suddenly I had trouble understanding what she was saying. I immediately got concerned because it had never happened before. I went to my medical doctor and discovered I had a medicinal problem that was causing my body to react as if I was having mini strokes. that medication was changed and with in a few weeks my brain was able to use its logic tools that brains do when taking words and putting them together and understand whats being said.

another example someone I know went months without notifying their treatment provider that they were having problems with understanding what was being said to them....turned out they were having minis strokes.

in other situations I know of it turned out people had Alzheimer disease/ cancer and other physical health problems....

my suggestion even though its happening during stressful times when you dissociate that may also point directly to something physical so if this was me I would be contacting my treatment providers so that diagnostic tests and treatment can be done whether its mental or physical.

My paranoid fear is that it's something physical, but I have neither providers I can see, nor insurance that will cover much (gotta love state insurance in FL). My other problem is that my mental health issues are seen as trumping anything that may be physically wrong with me. About a year ago I had a small stroke while inpatient (likely due to the medication), but the doctor refused to follow up on it because I was on the psych unit, and therefore it must have been something I made up (his words). I didn't push the issue at the time because I wanted the hell out of there.
Back in February of this year, I started getting vertigo. I still don't know why, or what caused it. At about the same time, I started experiencing this confusion during times of stress. I also had trouble processing visual information. When I went to the er for the vertigo (it had gotten really bad), they did an mri and found nothing. Pary of me wants to go back and get myself reevaluated, but I don't see it as something needing a trip to the er at this time. Insurance won't cover regular doctors visit, so that's kinda out at the moment...
I am really hoping it's just a stress reaction to the increased depression and flashbacks. :/

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by ThisWayOut

My paranoid fear is that it's something physical, but I have neither providers I can see, nor insurance that will cover much (gotta love state insurance in FL). My other problem is that my mental health issues are seen as trumping anything that may be physically wrong with me. About a year ago I had a small stroke while inpatient (likely due to the medication), but the doctor refused to follow up on it because I was on the psych unit, and therefore it must have been something I made up (his words). I didn't push the issue at the time because I wanted the hell out of there.
Back in February of this year, I started getting vertigo. I still don't know why, or what caused it. At about the same time, I started experiencing this confusion during times of stress. I also had trouble processing visual information. When I went to the er for the vertigo (it had gotten really bad), they did an mri and found nothing. Pary of me wants to go back and get myself reevaluated, but I don't see it as something needing a trip to the er at this time. Insurance won't cover regular doctors visit, so that's kinda out at the moment...
I am really hoping it's just a stress reaction to the increased depression and flashbacks. :/

Not too long ago I helped someone who lived in florida but was visiting here in NY that needed medical/mental help. I discovered she thought her insurance wouldnt cover a regular doctor, turns out florida medical insurance plans do cover many types of doctors and many types of treatment plans. for this person we got her set up for both medicaid and medicare. that way all her medical and mental needs were covered, what medicaid didnt cover, medicare did.

here is a link to how to get signed up for the right insurance plans that fit your needs that we used to help this person.

http://www.floridahealthfinder.gov/r...reference.aspx

one thing you may not know is that here in the USA there are now federal (nationwide laws) that americans have to have insurance cooverage, and nation wide law that says what medicaid must now cover here in the USA. that law is called obama care. So now anyone on medicaid gets a medical doctor, dentist and mental health coverage that include basic health care for preventing problems/diseases (here in NY these are called well checks because the person gets to see the doctor even when they are not sick for check ups on their physical and mental health and medications they may be on) and they also get treatment for their physical and mental health problems/sickness/... there are many different packages of health care americans can choose from based on what their health needs are.

with medicaid what usually happens is you choose a doctor, dentist and mental health treatment provider or state medicaid office office assigns you to which ever treatment providers on their list have availability of taking on new clients. some state medicaid offices monitor how many clients each treatment provider has so that they are able to assign clients to a treatment provider right away. then you just call that medical treatment provider you have chosen or were assigned to which is called your primary care physician (PCP) and schedule an appointment. then that treatment provider assesses the problem treats it or refers you to a specialist that can diagnose, treat the problem.

if you don't have the type of medical /mental health coverage you need all you need to do is contact your social services office and ask to speak to your caseworker. then sit down with them and discuss the problem and what you need. then they will help you to find the right treatment provider that fits your insurance plan or help you to change your insurance plans or add more benefits/insurance plans so that you will have the coverage you need.

[ThisWayOut]

The FL system is messed up. I cannot afford regular insurance through obamacare, nor do I qualify for insurance discounts through the federal government because I'm on ssdi (they don't count it as income, so I don't meet the federal minimum for the insurance help). FL does count it as income though, so I make too much to qualify for regular Medicaid within the state. I get what is called "share of cost" Medicaid because I am considered medically needy, but make too much according to the state. That roughly translates to catastrophe insurance with an enormous deductible every month. In order for them to pay anything at all, I have to run up over $1000 in medical bills each month, and even then I'm only covered for that month. I have tried talking to the state caseworker, but I am told I need to find additional coverage for myself if I want anything more reasonable. The cheapest commercial plan I can get is about $600/month, and that would come with it's own insane deductible and copays... this state really sucks for benefits. I'm still in the process of fighting the state to pay for stuff covered under my plan. They seem to pick and choose what is covered at any given time... I don't have the energy to fight them on a Neuro consult right now. I guess maybe if it continues or gets worse I will go to the er again, but at the moment it's not worth the hassle. But thanks for the info and the link. I wish it was something I could utilize...

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by ThisWayOut

The FL system is messed up. I cannot afford regular insurance through obamacare, nor do I qualify for insurance discounts through the federal government because I'm on ssdi (they don't count it as income, so I don't meet the federal minimum for the insurance help). FL does count it as income though, so I make too much to qualify for regular Medicaid within the state. I get what is called "share of cost" Medicaid because I am considered medically needy, but make too much according to the state. That roughly translates to catastrophe insurance with an enormous deductible every month. In order for them to pay anything at all, I have to run up over $1000 in medical bills each month, and even then I'm only covered for that month. I have tried talking to the state caseworker, but I am told I need to find additional coverage for myself if I want anything more reasonable. The cheapest commercial plan I can get is about $600/month, and that would come with it's own insane deductible and copays... this state really sucks for benefits. I'm still in the process of fighting the state to pay for stuff covered under my plan. They seem to pick and choose what is covered at any given time... I don't have the energy to fight them on a Neuro consult right now. I guess maybe if it continues or gets worse I will go to the er again, but at the moment it's not worth the hassle. But thanks for the info and the link. I wish it was something I could utilize...

from the link I gave above, in their FAQ page....

What if I do not qualify for Medicaid but I need medical help?
Call the phone number 211 or visit FLAIRS.org. This is a community referral service which lists programs in a community that serve people in need.

basically they help people who dont qualify for a service under medicaid to get the help that they need...

Florida Alliance of Information and Referral Services
Contact Us

they will be able to help you get set up so that you can see a regular doctor or specialist if need be.

[lovesdogs99]

This happens to me, too, when I'm going through a lot emotionally. Except, I'll be reading a book and none of the words will make sense. I know EVERYONE sometimes reads a sentence or two and wasn't paying attention enough to understand. But I mean, like, even if I'm completely focused on my book, I can't understand what is happening. Even if I read it out loud.

This doesn't happen when I talk to counselors. But I do kind of block out my counselor when he won't let me speak but keeps talking about himself.

[Detia]

In regards to the original post, I have described experiencing that since I was a pre-teen. It has been very frustrating for me, but I don't know what it is. I know that a lot of it has happened under stress or when my social anxiety kicks in. I'm not sure how much it has to do with my dissociation yet...

It doesn't just happen in T sessions for me.