[amandalouise]

In mental health there is a term called ...The revolving door.....this is a situation where.....

a person with any number or physical or mental health problems repeatedly ends up in crisis and repeatedly ends up hospitalized, constantly going through the same problems over and over and over again.

example...someone who repeatedly attempts suicide, someone who repeatedly needs to be hospitalized because they are a danger to their self or others,

the revolving door also means a person cycles through the same emotions, thought patterns behaviors over and over again...

example obsessive thoughts repeating over and over again...that was stupid I shouldnt have done that, that was stupid I shouldnt have done that that was stupid I shouldnt have done that,

repeating the same behavior, stuck repeating same problems over and over again, (using non triggering example) someone who repeatedly stops taking their medication which causes them to feel dizzy. someone who punches a wall gets a sprained hand, punches a wall gets a sprained hand,

the third meaning for revolving door is related to dissociative disorders where a person cycles through their alters repeatedly one after another because of the same trigger, showing the same behaviors, thoughts and actions...

example..(using a non triggering made up situation)

loud clap of thunder
Rainy... I want my blanket
Red.. what the... I hate rain
Rainy..I want my blanket
Red..I hate rain
Rainy I want my blanket
thelma great weather for watching a risky movie
Rainy I want my blanket
Sunny looks for blanket
Red how long is this...rain going to go on I hate rain
Rainy I want my blanket
Sunny heres your blanket
Thelma this movie will work
red bout time the rain stopped

Rainy has her blanket, the rain has let up to where its no longer thundering so red is no longer taking control to voice anger over the weather, and sunny did her job, purpose reason for being created to completion with handling the problem, all is calmed down and no longer rapidly switching from one to the other to handle the same triggering problem.

here in my location you can always tell when someone has revolving door type system because they have a history (all through their life) of repeating the same actions, same wording, same emotions when encountering the same trigger. because its dissociative related it doesnt just come on one self with DID one day, its there from the moment the child has dissociated into being an alter before the age of 5 (according to my locations mental health demographics\statistics.

how does this relate to me and my internal system. After being diagnosed with this kind of system I saw many patterns in my life, in every aspect of my life which resulted in my being able to control my dissociation problems better. the revolving door enabled me to understand what my triggers were and when I needed to use my therapy tools I learned in therapy.

.....In my location...... people with revolving door systems have the .....ability ....to heal much faster then others because their system doesnt depend upon developing co consciousness, communication... its more a situation of locating triggers and once that persons able to handle taking care of their self to where the alters sense of agency is no longer needed, the alters merge\integrate back together to all becoming one whole person again (no longer having DID)

by ability I mean once they know their system and know what their life long patterns are they....can.... if they choose to, use what is learned in therapy to make their life better. its up to each individual person with DID/this kind of system to decide for their self whether they ...want...to do trigger work and gain control over their dissociation\behaviors and problems. just like with any other mental or physical health problem here in the USA each person is in control of their own lives and mental\physical health decisions unless that has been removed (ie court appointing guardians to make those decisions for them)

[Luce]

What diagnostic criteria do you use for 'revolving door type system'? I know about rapid switching of course, but have never heard of 'revolving door type system' as a diagnosis.
The reason I ask is that I have times of rapid switching but have not had a 'faster healing time' (faster than what?) and I am highly coconscious with certain alter groups, so I am curious about what diagnostic criteria you use .... in your location.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by Luce

What diagnostic criteria do you use for 'revolving door type system'? I know about rapid switching of course, but have never heard of 'revolving door type system' as a diagnosis.
The reason I ask is that I have times of rapid switching but have not had a 'faster healing time' (faster than what?) and I am highly coconscious with certain alter groups, so I am curious about what diagnostic criteria you use .... in your location.

its not a diagnostic criteria.

the revolving door is is a symptom \problem that many with all mental disorders sometimes have.

think of it like sneezing. there is no diagnostic criteria for the revolving door its just something everyone does at one time or another in their lives.

like stated in my first post....these are the mental health definitions of what the revolving door symptom is in my own location.

in my own location..... it means they are feeling many different emotions because of the same problem.

in my own location.....it means they are a repeat patient for things like hospitalizations.

in my own location.... it means they repeat the same negative behaviors.

to find out all the definitions of having the revolving door symptom is in your location for all the mental disorders you will need to contact your own treatment providers who will tell you what this term means related to...

dissociative disorders, depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder ... any other mental disorders and physical health problems and normal situations in your own locations.

in relation to my own locations mental health statistics/ demographics those with revolving door in my own location heal faster/ become one whole person again faster because they can skip many different parts of the healing process that others can not...

example... people who do not have a way to communicate with their alters work on trying to establish communication, then stabilizing\trying to get the alters to work together, grounding and other tools to work on talking\communicating with their alters and getting everyone to calm down/work together. then work on what each alters job, purpose, reason for being is, then work on what triggers each to take control\dissociate. then after each ones job, purpose reason for being created is taken care of they integrate/become one. all the while using therapy approaches with each step for stabilization.

a person with revolving door can skip this part of therapy and move directly into locating triggers and fix those triggers which result in dissociating. no dissociation means no alters needing to take control and they merge/ become one whole person.

example rainy sense of agency (new diagnostic for DID here in the USA, you can read about sense of agency in my link at the bottom of the page) was to handle storms and the emotions depressed, sadness.

rather than going through the steps of communication, stabilizing this alter finding out what this alter is and all that beginning work I had the ......ability.... to keep track of every time I dissociated into being rainy . I could have if I ....chose.... to ignore keeping track of this and worked for years on trying to develop communication, trauma work, .... but instead I used my ...ability....to write down\keep track of when I would dissociate into Rainy.

by taking just a few minutes to document when I would dissociate into Rainy a pattern of dissociation emerged. then rather than going the years long process of communication and such I could jump directly to using breathing, grounding during any moments where I would dissociate into Rainy. if a storm was brewing I would breath, reground back in the present moment rather than dissociate\switch into rainy. since I was handling everything that was rainy, there was no need for rainy to be separate from me, she merged together with me to became one whole person with me again.

short version this therapy approach of defining what the revolving door is here in my location and then using it at a short cut by cutting to the point ....why a person is dissociating into these alters at this moment.... then solving that problem is a faster healing process.

to find out what your locations definitions and therapy approaches \ treatments \beliefs are with the revolving door you will need to contact your own treatment providers.

[Shaly78]

Thanks for the information....

In your first description, I would have said early on mental breakdown, psychotic break, crisis, later on learned about florid decompensation. As of now, bipolar isn't one of my co-morbid dx....

I think the term cycling or revolving door actually are one of my memory triggers lol revolving doors like in a business park or mall lol....
I said that term describing DID revolving door of alter it is totally okay if in control with it actually really helpful with noticing who is out. Kind of like a meeting of alter external using the word co-present and co-hosting etc.

[Luce]

My mistake. When you wrote

Originally Posted by amandalouise

After being diagnosed with this kind of system I saw many patterns in my life, in every aspect of my life which resulted in my being able to control my dissociation problems better)

I assumed there must have been some guideline for 'diagnosis'.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by Luce

My mistake. When you wrote

I assumed there must have been some guideline for 'diagnosis'.

heres what I mean by diagnosed in this situation....I had a few sessions where I was constantly switching from one alter to another because of the same trigger. After one such session my therapist said to me... you have the kind of system that has a revolving door. (in other words a treatment provider told me what one of my ....symptoms... was just like when sitting with a medical doctor and you sneeze and dont know what a sneeze is the doctor says "that was a sneeze, do you sneeze often?")

I didnt have very many of these triggers that opened my "revolving door" but those I did made things a lot easier because it was just a matter of locating the pattern \ triggers and taking care of that, which resulted in those alters naturally integrating \becoming one with me. my alters when more than one handled the same triggers didnt fight/argue over who would be the one to do that, they just automatically did their part of taking care of the same trigger by "revolving" from one alter to the next until the triggering problem that caused then to take control was taken care of.

[Lost_in_the_woods]

(((Thanx Amanda!)))
In our house, not only do the doors revolve..but also the windows, stairs, floors, and ceilings.. dizzy dizzy dizzy land..not so much fun as Disneyland.